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@Harp the Music Student has created a new CC! CC Members | Total: 2 @Jay the Herpetology Student @Harp the Music Student

ayoo

22:53

makes shit a little easier

true true

22:54

plan is kill swurtle tonight, then i could go for a mayor bid maybe

yeah sure

22:55

i've told pack we're killing swurtle

good

swurtle just told me they got a 2nd medium

22:56

what say

22:56

says she trusts me more tho‼️

Harp the Music Student

what say

say something like "actually you have a scum pretending to be medium" or something lmao

yea i'll reword that as something i'd say

if the other wolf is dennis, turtle, or phantom tell them to claim at some point

22:59

go for assistant or runner

noted

ROLELIST (real) Amnesiac: Nick, Turtle Assassin: Katy Assistant: DDD, Dennis Fletcher: Swurtle Medium: Alpha Oracle: Krem Runner: Arch Wolves: Leila, Harper, Jay, Luffy, Phantom Plague Bearer: Ethan Plague Carrier: Suso Plague Doctor: Mat (edited)

1

real as fuck

E is for Ethan D is for Dennis T is for Turtle P is for Phantom M is for Mat

23:09

was luffy sab wolf?

23:10

honestly our best case scenario is mat being amni but i think she may have been assistant

23:11

nick is gonna get mayor, you guys can nightkill katy N3, then i can get reporter

23:11

the most important thing is figuring out who plague bearer is - my bet is on ethan so far

23:11

he's likely to be lynched tomorrow

nah luffy was the other direwolf

welp

23:23

sab wolf should go for arch mayB?

yea?

23:24

sounds like a call

or just nobody

23:24

either works

@Jay the Herpetology Student misclicked on the poll lol

seriously

10:04

what did you do

voted you apparently?

10:14

ngl i was pretty sure i voted you but

10:14

*voted sharl

10:14

i'm not ok right now sorry

sharl isn't playing

10:14

he got subbed out

the person we're supposed to kill you know what i fucking mean

swurtle

10:15

huh

10:15

is it possible the poll fucked up?

no idea

cause this uh. really sucks

10:18

is katy ours @Harp the Music Student

10:19

because clearly they're not assassin

no

huh

10:20

w e i r d

i mean on the other hand we sufficiently confused them

true!

also i was rushing to a lecture at phase change so i couldn't talk and i'd forgotten to bring like anything

13:05

BUT turns out it was all shit i knew already

oh lmao

oh actually this is good i think

13:09

suso's not ours + you reporter

yep, it's a shame swurtle didn't die but if we figure out who plaguebearer is and arch doesn't cause any trouble then we have a chance

let's hope

@Harp the Music Student add Leila, also i need to know the identity of the third wolf

13:19

is it dennis?

sure

✅ Added @Leila the Demonology Student to the CC!

it's leilaboo!

STOKE

on trent, stoke on trent

13:27

historic town on the river Trent

True

yall what do i tell swurtle i asked last night

uhhh what about "can i trust suso"

14:09

and then ask her to tell you what to ask tonight

14:09

or "is suso Amnesiac"

ok yea

ethan claims medium too

14:50

lots of weird shit going on

trueee

okay swurtle remembered about the oracle info sobbing

16:21

so she thinks ethan is the real medium

16:22

which is fine I'll just try and convince her to lynch harper last or w/e

16:22

@Students please tell me who the third wolf is

16:24

the longer I don't know, the more likely i accidentally get them killed

ok yeah it's phantom

yeah well

16:53

phantom is really suspicious rn

16:54

didnt claim to swurtle but did to ethan fsr

oh my godddddd

16:55

new player wolves

16:55

he's like hardly talked in the pack

probably ia

16:56

ask for him to be subbed out

16:57

rolelist updated, assuming dennis is assistant

cool

16:59

OH btw when i corrupted ddd he came up feeling really sus

inch resting

idk if he actually is or if he's just fuckin weird

arch has been added to trusted chat bc nobody else claimed runner

17:55

turtle is real amni

17:55

im probs fucked sometime soon but i did my best

17:56

this is why we needed swurt dead

yeah fr

18:01

sorry

also can u make sure to vote harp

18:03

the more people vote the more my corrupting is disguised

oh yeah on it

@Students we have game solve

22:19

i don't think we can win this unfortunately

22:20

the lack of kill last night plus phantom fucking up plus the TI info has kind of ruined it

22:21

but! we did pretty alright

dang

22:22

who should phantom sab

22:22

also can we get a reporter list @Jay the Herpetology Student

mat pd

22:23

we knew the other two

ye

Harp the Music Student

who should phantom sab

And

Saboteur Wolf [Werewolf Power]

Basics

Each night, the Saboteur Wolf may select one player to disqualify from the public election poll.

Details

Each night, the Saboteur Wolf may select one player. That player can not be voted for in the election poll in the following day phase. The selected player can still be lynched and can still vote in the election poll. The Saboteur Wolf may not sabotage the same player two nights in a row, but can sabotage themself or others in the wolfpack. Sabotaging is an immediate ability.

@University Staff so just to make sure, if a sab wolf died overnight the sab would still go through?

Once the sabotating has happened what happens to the saboteur wolf is irrelevant

cool cool

22:27

leila don't answer swurt yet i gotta do some maths

swurtle said check jay and ethan

22:27

9

9

Fuck i have the plague

22:28

I die at the end of the night

shit

22:28

we gotta kill ethan then

oh and what should i tell swurtle the medium result was

what was the question again?

switch to ethan?

yes

Jay the Herpetology Student

what was the question again?

i asked if i could trust suso

well no

22:28

obvs

yah just wanted to check

Ethan -> Medium Alpha -> PB? Krem -> SabW Harp -> CW?

22:31

@Leila the Demonology Student say jay and ethan same

22:38

@Leila the Demonology Student DO NOT ANSWER SWURTLE YET

22:38

if you haven't already that is

22:38

god idk what to do we are fuuuucked

22:39

leila, krem, and whoever is attacked gonna die tonight

22:40

yeah okay we can't win

22:40

harp can't be medium with the available claims and info, so I'd be the only wolf left and I can't kill

22:41

absolutely useless

22:43

okay dennis is also dying tonight

22:43

he must have been first infected

22:44

@Leila the Demonology Student okay go ahead and say ethan and i are the same alignment, and make sure swurtle knows you're dying from plague

22:48

@Leila the Demonology Student DON'T DO THAT

22:48

god im having a crisis deadspec probably thinks I'm insane

22:48

I don't know why I'm panicking so much over a game we've already lost

leila just ping me when you're available and I'll try figure out what you should say

@Leila the Demonology Student hi

23:29

Opps

23:30

@Jay the Herpetology Student hi

hi

23:32

starts 9 v 5 v 2 currently 9+1 v 4 v 1 dennis, krem, leila, swurtle die: 6 v 3 v 1 PATH ONE lynch ethan, me mayor: 6 v 3+1 keep ddd on alpha, katy shoot turtle, (or other way around), kill ddd: 3 v 3+1 that's fastest route PATH TWO: lynch ethan, arch mayor: 6+1 v 3 katy kill alpha, we kill katy: 4+1 v 3 lynch turtle, guardian me (or nick and we get nick to guard me), kill nick: 2+1 v 3 no lynches, we attack arch: 2+1 v 3 no lynches, we attack arch: 1 v 3

1

23:32

yeah uh

23:32

no good path here

23:35

@Leila the Demonology Student do you reckon you can get away with not responding

23:35

just stay on invis the whole night or smth

23:38

like that's all i got. that is all i can do

I guess but i might forget later

23:38

as i have an event at phase change

swurtle hopeful won't be around at phase change

23:39

so yeah just get on invis

should i just add phantom here bc bro's got no idea what's happening

yeah go ahead

ight

✅ Added @Phantom the Nurse to the CC!

also who we thinkin for the vote manipulation

arch

ight

23:43

2 or -1

-1

gotcha

don't say anything in cw chat

23:43

just ignore them point blank if they say things

wasn't gonna

good goos

2 risky at this point

oh crap

00:03

I didn't dare claim to swurtle because I was still thinking and hesitant about claiming as *assis since Ethan might've potentially been easier to convince (edited)

00:03

I'll claim to swurt?

oh my god you still haven't claimed to swurt?

00:04

yes go claim assistant to swurt

Yes

00:04

I suck

say you didn't understand that you were supposed to claim bc the host message confused you or smth

Thing is swurtle messaged me 4 times asking to claim

00:06

Saying that would be an auto out

00:06

I really messed that up

you sure did

Ah so you're warlock

00:09

Unless I'm dumb

00:09

I forgor to check the roles

yes

00:09

i am

Alr

basically, path one is the only one likely to work

00:10

and by "likely" i mean "not at all likely whatsoever"

00:11

so @Students please kill swurtle

Alr

00:12

We orig voted for Ethan so we may need to wait everyone to get online

yeah, ethan was my og plan

00:13

but i did the maths and it won't work

So we're gonna have to sacrifice leilaboo?

leila would die anyway

00:14

i checked with hosts

Ah

00:14

sad

goodbye from my invisible state

00:33

i will soon die

00:33

so sad

bye bye leilaboo

Shoot I forgot to sab

03:45

I'll just do Dennis I really don't have too much time to think and I won't be online until after phase change srry

lmao alright

09:58

dennis is dying but it doesn't matter all that much

bye leilaboo

10:18

ugh stupid phone switched me back to dnd from invis

10:20

dennis -> assistant krem -> direwolf swurtle -> fletcher leila -> oracle (edited)

10:20

do i lie or tell the truth about dennis?

10:21

saying he was scum could drag attention off of phantom, but on to me

10:22

let's not lie, we've lost anyway probably

yeah this isn't gonna work, arch must know my argument to be mayor is weak af

current votes: town: 3 nick (1) alpha (0) ddd (1) turtle (1) katy (1) arch (-1) us: 3 me (1) phantom (1) harper (1) plague: 1 ethan (1) (edited)

fortnite

fork knife

god ethan stop making yourself so damn suspicious, how tf am i meant to get alpha killed now!

17:30

oh my god. ethan thinks turtle is wolf and i'm town. of course

17:30

this is SO FUNNY

Ethan wants to know who our corrupted wolf targeted

just ignore him

Alr

ethan go crazy

18:52

silly even

ethan thinks he's doing this grand old reveal to wolves

ethan COPIN

20:06

i don't wanna interact w/ this but it's funny

20:06

Oh Did You Now Mr Ethan

don't

yea i aint

don't give him more potential ammo lmao

yah

20:06

i like watching this

this is like the werewolves equivalent of a pr crisis

lmao

20:07

ethan: i cracked the rolelist and gave it to the wolves wolves: already have the actual rolelist

ethan: i cracked the rolelist and gave it to the wolves ethan: actually gave the rolelist to town

LMAO??

20:09

who did he give it to

turtle

broooo

this really sucks though

it's a fun thing to happen tho

my original plan was to tell trusted that ethan was actually medium and get them to shoot alpha

20:12

ethan thinks he's handing wolves the win

20:12

he's actually probably just scrapped the last 0.5%

lmao

amusing

20:12

i look forward to my 0.5 points and death loss

who cares abt points honestly

true

this game was funny, silly even

20:13

i'm having a good time

fair lmao

katy kill ddd, ddd kill alpha, we kill katy: 3+1(-1+1) v 3(-1) lynch turtle, guardian me, kill nick: 2+1 v 3(+1-1),

Corrupt Wolf [Werewolf Power]

Limited Role

Basics

The Corrupt Wolf can manipulate a player's votes in the next day's public polls.

Details

Each night, the Corrupt Wolf may select a player and a number of votes (2 or -1). The next day, the selected player has the chosen vote value instead of their usual value. The number of votes replaces the player's vote, it is not additive. However, the Mayor retains their extra vote. Manipulating a vote is immediate. The Corrupt Wolf may manipulate a member of the wolfpack. The Corrupt Wolf may also communicate with their chosen player in a whispers channel during the day. The Corrupt Wolf is a lycan and also part of the pack. The Corrupt Wolf is immune to redirections.

@University Staff to qualify, if a cw gave grandma a -1 vote, a grandma would just have -1, no matter how many people they grandma'd?

20:43

katy kill turtle, we kill katy, nick grandma's ddd, we corrupt ddd: arch(2) + ddd(0) + nick(-1) + alpha(1) vs wolves(3)

20:43

(assuming my host question is correct)

20:43

the phrasing says so

Oh wow there’s a grandma? From an amnes?

yep

Cool

20:46

Everyone’s thinking turtles a wolf?

yes

20:46

because my claim necessitates he is scum

Dang

Jay the Herpetology Student

@University Staff to qualify, if a cw gave grandma a -1 vote, a grandma would just have -1, no matter how many people they grandma'd?

It depends on the order as both operations are immediate and absolute

Jay the Herpetology Student

katy kill turtle, we kill katy, nick grandma's ddd, we corrupt ddd: arch(2) + ddd(0) + nick(-1) + alpha(1) vs wolves(3)

katy kill turtle, we kill katy, nick grandma's ddd and harper, we corrupt nick: arch(2) + ddd(0) + nick(-1) + alpha(1) vs jay(1) + phantom(1) + harp(0) (edited)

Professor Rubycrust

It depends on the order as both operations are immediate and absolute

so if grandma grandma'd at start night, and cw cw'd after grandma, grandma would have -1 votes?

yes

alright

Shouldn’t this plan be corrupting nick instead of ddd?

i think that has to be our best chance

20:48

yes

20:49

nick

20:49

you are right

Would a sab be even useful in this situation or do I just sab a random townie

Jay the Herpetology Student

katy kill turtle, we kill katy, nick grandma's ddd and harper, we corrupt nick: arch(2) + ddd(0) + nick(-1) + alpha(1) vs jay(1) + phantom(1) + harp(0) (edited)

we kill nick, presume he steals two votes..... we lose

20:52

so we have to win tomorrow

20:52

in terms of votes

Phantom the Nurse

Would a sab be even useful in this situation or do I just sab a random townie

it probs wouldn't be useful but just do it anyway

Alr

so if i'm gonna corrupt i should wait till late on?

yes

nice

high chance this won't work but alright

i'll trust myself to remember to do it in the morning

I'm doing my best i prommy

eh it's worth a try

well you just need to do it after grandma

yea but

21:00

wait who's grandma?

Nick

cool

21:00

i have no idea what his timezone is

i should know when he's done it

yeah?

21:01

cool

21:01

lmk

21:01

and corrupt him then right?

Yes

yes

you can request delays to 15m before phase change (edited)

oh that's a lot easier

Can’t the grandma do that too though

yes, but if i have my way he won't

21:06

I don't think this will work but eh

21:06

did my best

Phantom the Nurse

Can’t the grandma do that too though

honestly my faith is 100% in "he's a new player he wouldn't know about that"

21:10

actually it's also in jay telling him to do it immediately

Oh yeah

21:19

Makes sense

if we do somehow get to tomorrow with three votes to their two, we'll lynch arch and nick

awesome

wait shit

21:52

they'll just get nick to vote against us

21:52

aaaaaa

21:52

we'd have to snipe

21:52

and hope nick isn't online

21:53

ah well, maybe that'd work

yeah tbh it could work

who r we attacking again

katy

yah

22:09

and i'll delay corruption to 15 mins before phase change

alr

yep

22:17

we'll have to agree on how to vote this.

I'll go sab alpha

no uhhh

22:20

sab arch

22:20

doesn't really matter either we win or we lose

22:20

but just do arch

22:21

@Phantom the Nurse @Harp the Music Student if we miraculously make it to tomorrow, we need to be super organised

Alr

22:21

Doing arch

ight

we could play a weird strategy and give nick two votes and hope he assumes he has -1, but that may not work idk

that sounds viable

if we give him two votes, we lose if he votes against us. if we give him -1 votes, we lose if he votes with us or he doesn't vote.

22:26

wait, either way we lose if he doesn't vote, i think (edited)

but I don't think nick would even bother

bother to what?

He may think he still has 2 votes

1 vote

22:27

but i think he'd know, arch would tell him

ping me when we've got the plan together

Doesn't grandma give 2?

he only has one target, ddd

ah

22:27

I thought harp was being targetted too?

nope

22:28

otherwise we'd def lose

ah

ehhhh idk

22:28

we've probs lost

Actually that's a great idea

22:28

Arch would definitely tell him

arch would probably realise that we've lost if he doesn't vote

And idrc the current suspicions rn but anyone that isn't as suspicious can just convince nick as well

22:29

Yes arch may think that

22:29

But uh hopefully they won't

they will

22:29

ah well

22:29

we did our best

But I mean it requires enough thinking to consider that corrupt wolf exists, it's going to corrupt nick, and the final step that if nick just doesn't vote wolves lose

22:31

Probably obvious but still a possibility

22:31

It's a fairly big step

people know when they're corrupted

ow

but not what vote they have

uhhh

22:32

If nick will only have 1 vote shouldn't we corrupt another townie though

i think they'd assume they'd get -1

Since if nick has 2 votes it'll be a lot more worth it

at this stage (edited)

okay

22:32

idk what to do

Another townie who'd like 100% would vote

22:33

And arch wouldn't bother with them

i'll put in the delayed corruption now?

not gonna happen

22:33

no don't

ok

we don't know how many votes to give

22:33

i doubt it'll matter but still

2 votes is safer than -1

22:33

Unless

22:33

Nobody is trusted in wolves

22:33

which I'm not really sure

22:33

abt

it has to be nick

22:34

i think

Arch will sooner or later realize it anyways

22:34

Or, in the most unbelievable scenario, forget

yeah

We may really need to convince Nick further in a cc

okayyyyy what about

It's the safest

we give nick 2 votes

22:35

no nick won't believe us

ow

and harper and i vote on the "correct" targets, and phantom votes with town

hmmm

22:36

How would that help?

and then one of two things happens: a) nick doesn't vote at all or votes with town, and phantom switches votes with like ten/twenty minutes to spare, hopefully baiting nick into switching too b) nick votes with harper and i, and phantom takes his vote off with one minute to spare.

22:38

if arch is smart, this still won't work

22:38

and arch is very clever

22:39

but tbh this is a series of events which went surprisingly well, I'm impressed we got this far

22:39

so hurrah to wolves, we did our best

why would nick switch

22:40

or is it just like a numbers thing

22:40

where nick just follows majority

nick would switch because arch might assume we know something they don't about the votes, that nick has a -1, and that he should try counter a snipe

22:40

nick will do what arch tells him to do

22:42

i think that's our only plan really?

22:42

@Phantom the Nurse @Harp the Music Student opinions?

hm

22:44

it's...

yeah it's highly unlikely to work

22:44

but more likely than anything else i think

well it's plausible

22:44

but still generally follows our original plan

22:44

so we should still do +2 to nick?

yes

Alright

it's never going to work, but nothing would

22:45

i did my best

It's possible

22:46

If we get one town killed, another town killed by assassin, and another town lynched

22:46

we win?

yes

22:46

well

22:46

no actually

?

that last town has to be nick

22:47

we have to get nick killed

22:48

arch 2 katy -1 ddd 0 alpha 1 still a total of three

22:48

so yeah if we get nick and katy killed it should work

22:49

we could attack nick tonight

22:49

katy is more likely to actually be online tomorrow at phase change

22:50

and therefore actually switch votes if they vote fsr

We need to kill nick?

it doesn't matter in terms of raw mechanics if we kill katy or nick tonight, but if we kill nick, we don't need to worry about nick not being around at phase change

We'd still need to corrupt though

yes

22:51

corrupt katy

22:51

kill nick, give katy +2

And lynch katy???

yes

22:51

lynch katy and arch

I don't think katy would vote themselves

it's essentially the same plan

22:52

we trick arch (and therefore katy) into thinking katy has a negative vote

22:53

which then makes them vote with us to negate our votes (if they're stupid)

AHHHHH

22:53

ohhh

22:53

It'll be I think 4 v 3 tomorrow?

22:53

So 2 people on katy

harp and me

Wouldn't that result in still 4 people in the werewolves though?

22:54

ah wait

22:54

katy has +2

22:55

so all 4 will definitely lynch one of us, I'll follow their lynch(?), and hope that they'll be stupid and get katy to vote on us, where I change my vote last minute

22:55

But then again if katy votes us we'd still win the vote without the need to change

yes

And they'll think I messed up

Phantom the Nurse

But then again if katy votes us we'd still win the vote without the need to change

no

oh wait

22:56

yeah

arch2 + alpha1 + you1

tie

you'd need to at least take your vote off

22:56

i mean either way it's not gonna work

alright

but let's just do it

How active will they be though?

fun and innovative strats

I doubt I can get perfect timing

22:57

And a few seconds off they may notice

katy should be active, arch will be

22:57

just do as best you can

22:57

i doubt it'll matter

fair

22:57

I'll remind myself a minute before phase change

just refer to the plan

Jay the Herpetology Student

and then one of two things happens: a) nick doesn't vote at all or votes with town, and phantom switches votes with like ten/twenty minutes to spare, hopefully baiting nick into switching too b) nick votes with harper and i, and phantom takes his vote off with one minute to spare.

this but replace nick with katy

Alright

22:59

Kill nick

22:59

Corrupt katy with +2

yes

Alright

i might mute this server tomorrow bc of the stupid undue stress

We'll see how it goes

23:00

No ccs needed?

nope

23:01

from this point on we don't even really need to talk

ok so summary?

Phantom the Nurse

Kill nick

.

cool

Everything else is just "hope they are stupid"

who am i corrupting now

Katy with +2

cool

Hopefully we can do this :(

23:13

So I vote whatever town votes for?

yes

But it's a 6 v 3, Katy will kill ddd, 5 v 3, We will kill nick, 4 v 3, arch is mayor so 5 v 3. Let's say they lynch Harp, all 5 towns will flock for Harp whilst there's only 2 votes for whoever we lynch, say, Arch. However there's 5 town votes supposedly but if katy is supposedly corrupted with -1 then it's 3 votes, turtle (1), arch (2), katy (-1), alpha (1), rendering it to a 2 v 3. However, as I'm voting with them, I render the -1 to a 0, which makes the votes 4 instead of 3, making a 2 v 4, but I feel like the flaw is that, if I'm voting with them, wouldn't they'd be happy? After all, I'm adding an extra vote to who they want to lynch (edited)

what

I make zero sense rn

rn it's 6 v 3 nick and turtle will die 4 v 3 ddd will have 0 votes from grandma, so that's 3 v 3 votes then the corrupt wolf will have an effect

ah yes grandma

23:18

forgot about that

23:18

makes sense

23:19

Why is grandma targetting ddd to start with though?

bc i told him to

Oh turtle is child

14:24

Well now we either really win or really lose

@Harp the Music Student hi

hi

would you like to vote

yeah

great

np

considering katy isnt voting i assume arch has figured out what's going on

16:32

but eh

16:32

idc

16:32

probably best game ive played in a while

awesome

and watching ethan flail was amusing

16:32

@Ethan the Psychology Student thank you for the entertainment

yeah lmao

16:33

thanks ethan

Should I go cc Katy (edited)

17:06

might as well go stupid than just lose (edited)

17:07

I mean we're already this dead so having some final fun won't hurt

17:10

Also what happens in a tie? (edited)

in a tie we most likely lose

20:21

katy will attack one of us, and we'll attack either katy or alpha. then it's 4 votes v 2 votes plus cw effect, so they'd have to fuck up to lose

but they won't get a guardian

20:22

we can definitely kill katy

no, but that won't matter

20:22

because we'd lose in the lynch so only one of us would be left

Oh yeah it's a 3 v 2

20:23

Why didn't we kill katy earlier again?

20:23

I forgot

didnt matter if we killed katy or nick

21:29

nick would just take our votes away, same effect if not worse

damn

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