@Ts "The Pokerface" has created a new CC!
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@Swurtle "The Turtle"@Ts "The Pokerface"
Swurtle "The Turtle"24-Jun-22 07:10 PM
Hello Ts
Ts "The Pokerface"24-Jun-22 07:10 PM
Hello
19:11
I'm the Tanner - I disguised myself and you (I picked randomly) and got told you're part of the pack
19:12
you're Devout Villager for tonight
Swurtle "The Turtle"24-Jun-22 07:12 PM
Thanks 4 letting me know
Ts "The Pokerface"24-Jun-22 07:23 PM
I was gonna tan the butchers originally but shapechange argued against them revealing in #casino-hall unfortunately
Swurtle "The Turtle"24-Jun-22 07:40 PM
I’m talking with the rest of the wolves now and I’ll let u know when I’m able 2 convince them 2 add u 2 the wolf pack
Ts "The Pokerface"24-Jun-22 07:45 PM
awesome
19:45
we can probably have pretty good claims this game
19:45
got lucky
Swurtle "The Turtle"24-Jun-22 07:46 PM
Yeah u honestly did get lucky and just found a wolf on ur first try lol
Swurtle "The Turtle"24-Jun-22 08:10 PM
But what r u disguised as 4 tonight
Ts "The Pokerface"24-Jun-22 08:24 PM
also Devout Villager
Swurtle "The Turtle"24-Jun-22 08:26 PM
Got it
Ts "The Pokerface"24-Jun-22 09:15 PM
anyway I only did DV cause I didnt know anything, we should probably figure out better claims and make sure each of us claims something different
Swurtle "The Turtle"24-Jun-22 09:18 PM
Yeah the rest of the wolves and I r thinking about our claims right now
Ts "The Pokerface"24-Jun-22 09:23 PM
alright
21:24
I'll also need one
Swurtle "The Turtle"24-Jun-22 09:44 PM
U’ll get one once ur in the pack
Ts "The Pokerface"24-Jun-22 09:44 PM
what do you mean by that?
Swurtle "The Turtle"24-Jun-22 09:44 PM
U’ll get a claim once ur in the pack
Ts "The Pokerface"24-Jun-22 09:45 PM
I can't join the pack
21:45
I disguise people that's all I can do
Swurtle "The Turtle"24-Jun-22 09:45 PM
I meant joining the pack in the sense that u’ll be in a cc with all of the wolves
Ts "The Pokerface"24-Jun-22 09:46 PM
ah
21:46
ah
21:47
Btw is Mat another wolf? They're being kinda suspicious in #casino-hall
21:47
As townie I'd totally call them out
21:48
She says its a joke... but is it
21:48
I don't want to call another wolf out, but this is a strange thing to say
21:49
If she's not a wolf that also has interesting implications
Swurtle "The Turtle"24-Jun-22 09:55 PM
No she’s not but that would be a good lynch target
Ts "The Pokerface"24-Jun-22 09:56 PM
I'd say it might make it a good target to check & kill tonight. They are most likely a more important role if they say something like that (Fortune Teller, Vampire, etc)
21:56
I dont think we can control the lynch any time soon
21:56
with Butchers that's generally not the case
Swurtle "The Turtle"24-Jun-22 09:57 PM
I mean I’m tracking wolf so I can track her 4 u. Also the bloody butcher can convince the other 2 butchers who 2 lynch
Ts "The Pokerface"24-Jun-22 09:58 PM
oh nice, yeah I think she'd make for a good check. It's the most unusual thing said so far
21:58
Lynching a Butcher is probably the best move for town
21:58
so getting an actual Butcher and not the BB lynched is pretty important
21:58
idk who the Butchers are so I can't say if convincing them will be easy
21:59
but if the BB can do it it'd be great
Ts "The Pokerface"24-Jun-22 11:30 PM
Let me know when you've tracked Mat, I'm curious if my suspicion is right
Swurtle "The Turtle"24-Jun-22 11:32 PM
FYI tracking means I can only see how big of a threat they r 2 us
Ts "The Pokerface"24-Jun-22 11:32 PM
yeah I know
23:32
there's four result it can be, the upper two would mean my suspicion was right and the lower two would be less useful
Swurtle "The Turtle"24-Jun-22 11:35 PM
I’m just waiting 4 the results now
Ts "The Pokerface"24-Jun-22 11:35 PM
awesome
Swurtle "The Turtle"24-Jun-22 11:37 PM
Mat is a significant threat
Ts "The Pokerface"24-Jun-22 11:38 PM
Nice! I was right
Swurtle "The Turtle"24-Jun-22 11:38 PM
Yeah that’s an ez kill 4 us
Ts "The Pokerface"24-Jun-22 11:41 PM
yeah
Swurtle "The Turtle"24-Jun-22 11:41 PM
which wolf should do the kill since there’s no wolf killing role
Ts "The Pokerface"24-Jun-22 11:42 PM
I dont think it matters in this game actually
Swurtle "The Turtle"24-Jun-22 11:43 PM
I just know I shouldn’t kill
Ts "The Pokerface"24-Jun-22 11:43 PM
I mean I dont think there's anything that can figure out attackers this game unless im blind
23:43
so doesnt matter
23:43
what matters more is how we distribute claims
23:46
Scared Wolf can probably do the best Assassin claim as a real assassin is likely to kill their cc, but if ScW is claiming it it won't work
23:46
though distributing claims just based on roles doesn't work well, since some people are better at claiming than others
Swurtle "The Turtle"24-Jun-22 11:48 PM
Yeah, we can work on claims more once ur in a cc with the rest of the wolves which they don’t want 2 happen just yet IDK y the rest of them don’t fully trust u yet IDK how the fuck u can fake claim tanner this early on
Ts "The Pokerface"24-Jun-22 11:49 PM
I mean I can't do more than check a wolf as part of the wolfpack to proof myself
23:49
it's fine though, just makes it harder to strategize
23:49
it's my least favorite part about playing packless werewolves
Swurtle "The Turtle"24-Jun-22 11:50 PM
Yeah but luckily u got the wolf that can actually do shit so we can actually strategize and I can communicate it with the rest of the wolves
Ts "The Pokerface"24-Jun-22 11:52 PM
What I do actually need to know is the BB so I can disguise them next night. Optimally the FT wastes their check before the butchers reveal so town will be set back by a day, and then delaying the reveal until N1 was wasted
23:53
That also means BB should avoid revealing the Butchers for now, but not stop the other Butchers from doing so as doing that would be fairly suspicious
23:54
There are no easily confirmable roles besides Butchers this game, so they are vital for town, so making them useless is a priority
Swurtle "The Turtle"24-Jun-22 11:54 PM
Yeah the thing is the BB doesn’t want me revealing any of the other wolves 2 u yet…
Ts "The Pokerface"24-Jun-22 11:55 PM
23:56
I get it, it's better to be safe than sorry
Swurtle "The Turtle"24-Jun-22 11:56 PM
yeah I would rather not get the rest of the wolves pissed at me rn
Ts "The Pokerface"24-Jun-22 11:57 PM
this way the only annoyed wolf is me
23:57
but yeah it's fine
23:58
but disguising BB is something fairly important imo
Swurtle "The Turtle"24-Jun-22 11:58 PM
Yeah it is
23:58
Although I do feel a bit bad 4 Mat cuz she’s being killed N1 again 4 the second game in a row
Ts "The Pokerface"24-Jun-22 11:59 PM
I mean when you ask for wager in town square you're just asking to make yourself a target, it is what it is
Swurtle "The Turtle"25-Jun-22 12:00 AM
Yeah fair tho
Ts "The Pokerface"25-Jun-22 01:25 AM
aw butchers revealed
01:25
if we're lucky FT already checked though
01:26
wish it had been a bit later, but oh well
Swurtle "The Turtle"25-Jun-22 01:26 AM
Yeah nothing we can do about that
Ts "The Pokerface"25-Jun-22 01:28 AM
what could be a strategy to counter a potential FT check on a Butcher would be to just have the wolves fake a FT
01:28
if you're lucky that will be the only FT, otherwise there'll be two and butchers wont know which one to trust
01:29
iirc that's roughly what luffy did a few games back (though as AT) and it won wolves the game (idk if you played that one)
01:30
would probably make for a average risk high reward claim for cub or scared wolf
Swurtle "The Turtle"25-Jun-22 01:31 AM
Maybe IDK if I can convince the wolfs 2 do that since IK who the BB is
Ts "The Pokerface"25-Jun-22 01:31 AM
wdym? I think you maybe misunderstood the strategy
01:32
you use the pack's knowledge of knowing who the BB is to have the scared wolf or cub claim FT to a Butcher that isn't the BB - since you know the BB you by default also know the BB
Swurtle "The Turtle"25-Jun-22 01:32 AM
Oh got it
Ts "The Pokerface"25-Jun-22 01:32 AM
There is then two possible outcomes:
1) the real FT also checks a butcher - town wont know which one to trust
2) the real FT has already used their check elsewhere - the wolf hopefully becomes a somewhat trusted FT(edited)
Swurtle "The Turtle"25-Jun-22 01:33 AM
Well the scared wolf is claiming huntress and the cub is claiming child cuz the bb suggested that 4 them
Ts "The Pokerface"25-Jun-22 01:33 AM
Did they already tell anyone? Those are somewhat weak claims
Swurtle "The Turtle"25-Jun-22 01:34 AM
I don’t think they told people yet they seem pretty inactive so far
Ts "The Pokerface"25-Jun-22 01:34 AM
ah
01:35
pulling off a FT claims requires at least a decent amount of activity
Swurtle "The Turtle"25-Jun-22 01:35 AM
U know what fuck it I’m gonna create the cc now I don’t wanna be the middle man anymore I’m getting impatient already that’ll just make communication a lot easier