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Out of Character

This is the out of character channel! Here you can ask the Game Masters questions, and have out of character conversations, which aren't related to the game!

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no

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13:34

anw I'll try not to be too lame but don't expect me to interact with the theme very much this game lol

understandable

Why

16:03

What is the theme even

16:03

Oh europe vision

16:03

Actual addicts

we did a eurovision game last year skull emoji

#gamelog-s6g5a #gamelog-s6g5b

16:05

yeah the split game

I was the cyprus lady

16:08

in that game

i was belgium

the only songs I liked from that Eurovision was Italy, Finland, Ukraine, and a bit of the cyprus song

ukraine had a banger song

this time they did some weird rap

Veratia

ukraine had a banger song

yup

16:11

though I didn't understand a word

16:11

I really vibed to it

same but you dont have to understand to vibe

16:12

i didnt understand italy either but they won with an italian banger

Space Man this year isn't too bad

16:16

only now going through all the songs

ive only seen the first semifinals?

16:17

i think it was the semifinals

Lots of songs are just "good", but not many special ones

I've been through Ukraine Austria Albania NEtherlands and UK so far only UK was even "good" for me

i dislike dutch songs unless they have funny lyrics

It's so hard to know what others think of our dutch song

16:22

But apparently it's quite good

Dennisia

It's so hard to know what others think of our dutch song

a very generic song with millenial whoop

it does sound generic

Yea the song is carried by the emotional message rather than the singing itself

Meanwhile there’s me from the US cringing at the fact that American Song Contest is a thing which is just Eurovision but with the 50 states and US territories competing against each other which that just ended yet somehow Michael Bolton was representative 4 one of the states and he ended up making it 2 grand finals somehow

i didnt know the us had a song contest

I think it was mentioned last year

16:29

USA made an esc

I haven't been following anything about eurovision, the only thing I know is that here in Spain a song won the public vote by a lot only for a way worse one to be selected by the "professional jury"

16:29

We were going to have a decent song for once

16:29

But nope

yeah the professional jury is bullshit and biased as hell

16:31

its all politics

Veratia

i dislike dutch songs unless they have funny lyrics

spinvis thooo or did you mean just eurovision

uh any dutch music

17:36

if they talk dutch its like 10x more cringey

ik wil alleen maar zwemmen is such a nice song. ig it has humor though

17:38

IK BEN VULGARIS MAGISTRALIS EN IK RI'J OP EEN MAMMOET IN 'T ROND IK BEN VULGARIS MAGISTRALIS EN OP ZONDAG OP EEN MASTODON AHOE AHOE AHOE AHOE AHOE AHOE AHOE

i-

17:38

OH

17:38

THAT ONE

YEAHH classic

17:39

when i was just on insta there was this brazilian guy dming me like "hey you're dutch right, do you know Heidevolk?"

gfjsfds

somehow i did.

it keeps popping up on my spotify

17:39

after i listen to alestorm

17:39

somehow

dutch sounds silly but alestorm is fine?????

yes

you are nitpicking and biased, i win, bye bye

dhsfhskdf

17:41

nah man i just cant listen to dutch because its dutch

17:41

like cmon

17:41

dutch is the stupidest fucking language

oehoe oehoerend haa'd kwaomen zie daor aongesjeurd

okay listen

17:42

thats a banger

17:42

unironically

inconsistent!!!!

i dont have to be consistent!!!!

17:45

:D

ok

17:46

wtf is Serbias song

17:46

and why is it in the final

17:48

lyrics make sense

17:48

are nice

17:48

but the song itself is weird

I don't think I've ever followed Eurovision

17:49

Sounds fun

its uh

17:49

interesting

17:49

thats for sure

17:49

im gonna see if theres anything interesting in the 2nd semi cuz the first one disappointed

Do people get competitive about it

17:50

Or no

Sad that its come from the times of Waterloo to this

hella cringey presentation this year ngl

im glad serbia is in there bc that song at least has something unique to it instead of insert generic pop song you've already heard 71 times

17:55

still it's not that good LOL

17:58

it sounds a little, undersung?

17:58

like she's clearly going for a melody but it just sounds flat

17:59

which would be fine if it sounded more intentional but as it is it's just not all that

Middle Meistrea

it sounds a little, undersung?

yup

My fav Eurovision performance was the year verka serduchka was on it

FIRST

I've gone through 20 out of the 40 songs very meh

South Eclairia

I've gone through 20 out of the 40 songs very meh

I read meh as men

lol

18:19

I'm loving the Moldova song ngl

18:19

gives some Cotton Eyed joe vibes as well

18:20

good counry vibes in general

Yep

18:34

I like the diversity of eurovision songs (edited)

18:34

If they were all generic good songs, it would be boring af

18:35

So even if I don't necessarily like Serbia, I was hoping that would make it to the final

serbia was interesting

Also Finland, they made a really well known song in 2003

i like how unique it was

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/953652713789476864/974713682590330890/IMG_20220513_184151.jpg (edited)

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@harpland POGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

18:44

just. wait for it to send,

yw

18:44

friendly neighborhood host

nice

thanks Ethan

South Eclairia

Sad that its come from the times of Waterloo to this

Please, most of the songs of the 70s + 80s were mid in Eurovision.

19:08

Waterloo was an exception, not the norm.

we've now retroactively tracked all mini wolf games (there was enough data on a total of 334 games)

21:00

if anyone is interested in their mini wolf stats let me know

What are my mini wolves stats?

~~url~~

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/962372264316264478/974748486241234974/unknown.png (edited)

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Hey I technically played 1 game

that game wasnt a real game

me me me pls

21:03

~~url~~ huh there's only 9 games for you

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/962372264316264478/974748859257454632/unknown.png (edited)

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I would've thought you'd have more

21:04

Vera has 205 what

i find mini wolves a bit too fast

understandable

i have 205

21:05

omg

21:05

thats

21:05

insane

lol

~~url~~ i like how the duplicate role graph has "Other" as such a small slice

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/962372264316264478/974749328755290182/unknown.png (edited)

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lmao

what was that game where no one won?

that would not have been considered valid

21:08

I had a script parse #bot-spam to try to figure out who won based on feedback messages from killq, sheet and reset, but often games would be ended without killing the final people and such, so I filtered out a ton of games that I didnt have enough data on (in total there were 520 games, 334 of which were valid) (edited)

apologies for not being active today. i will continue to not be active

apology accepted

21:09

its d0

suspended for inactivity

kicked from the gm team (not the admin team) and banned from ever playing games again

i get kicked from the gm team and suspended but also given server owner

exactly

21:11

now you suffer with the responsibility of owning this (edited)

Hey. We've noticed that you haven't been very active in the Werewolves server team. If you need help finding a channel, have a reason for not being able to be actively chatting, or just have no idea what to do, please let me know and we can try to work it out. We try to keep the server relatively active and productive by removing inactive members, and currently you are not meeting our activity criteria. Thanks

❤️

Ts why

21:12

This message

21:12

This one message

I just love the chopper inactivity message

lmao

Hey. We've noticed that you haven't been very active in the Werewolves server team. If you need help finding a channel, have a reason for not being able to be actively chatting, or just have no idea what to do, please let me know and we can try to work it out. We try to keep the server relatively active and productive by removing inactive members, and currently you are not meeting our activity criteria. Thanks

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Tsania

Vera has 205 what

Wow

21:19

Also ts, you madman, trying to do this lol

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/657932497354752030/974752880504487986/unknown.png?width=1440&height=648 (edited)

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so this goes on for like 200 more rows

Many

11 more games until 250 games

yup

saint-changia

apologies for not being active today. i will continue to not be active

mood

239 games and you've never been Macho

I HAVENT????

21:23

i figured id have had every role thats currently in the rolebook at least once

you're missing a lot

21:23

Medium, Grandma, Fortune Apprentice

oh what

what roles do i nevver roll as

ive been grandma in mini

21:24

technically twice

probably in an invalid game

21:25

there's probably a bunch that were normal games that we just dont have enough data on

21:25

but 334 of 520 is a good amount

september 18 2019 22:40

In the ones we have you've never been any of these roles: Zombie (Old),Wraith,Wolf's Cub,Vicious Hag,Unemployed Chef,Uncertain Hag,Thief,Tasty Villager,Tanner (Old),Tanner,Shepherd,Saint,Sacred Wolf,Runner Vampire,Royal Wolf,Robin Jackson,Riding Hood,Receptionist,Raven,Pyronner,Pyro Bard,Psychopath (Solo),Psychopath,Prophetic Hag,Plaguebearer,Plague Doctor,Plague Carrier,Plague Bearer,Plague Bearer,Packless Wolf,Medium,Macho,Knowledge Wolf,Juror,Jack Robinson,Innkeeper,Infecting Wolf,Imp,Immune Survivor,Immortal,Herald,Gray Wolf,Grandma,Four Horsemen,Fortune Apprentice (Old),Fortune Apprentice,Flute Apprentice,Exorcist,Executioner,Disguised Fox,Cursed Civilian Old,Cursed Civilian Alt,Curse Caster,Coward,Clairvoyant Fox,Cautious Hag,Burglar,Bitter Hag,Assistant,Archangel,Amnesiac,Acrobat

FUCK JACK ROBINSON

Jeben D. Autocratic

what roles do i nevver roll as

this isnt useful but youve never been any of these roles: Priest,Crowd Seeker,Juror,Cult Leader,Stalker,Bard,Cursed Civilian Old,Cursed Civilian Alt,Cursed Civilian,Huntress,Huntsman,Macho,Mad Scientist,Oracle,Receptionist,Innkeeper,Aura Teller,Bartender,Executioner,Raven,Acrobat,Tasty Villager,Baker,Assistant,Coward,Amnesiac,Claimspace,Fletcher,Fortune Apprentice,Fortune Apprentice (Old),Herald,Medium,Town Crier,Child,Trickster,Idiot,Jack Robinson,Robin Jackson,,Tanner (Old),Bloody Butcher,Direwolf,Clairvoyant Fox,Lone Wolf,Psychic Wolf,Wolf's Cub,Curse Caster,Royal Wolf,Corrupt Wolf,Alpha Wolf,Hellhound,Infected Wolf,Infecting Wolf,Knowledge Wolf,Saboteur Wolf,Sacred Wolf,Scared Wolf,Pack Tanner,Packless Wolf,Psychopath,Apprentice,Dog,Look-Alike,Vicious Hag,Cautious Hag,Prophetic Hag,Uncertain Hag,Angel,Unemployed Chef,Chef,Despot,Plague Doctor,Immune Survivor,Riding Hood,Thief,Burglar,Survivor,Archangel,Shepherd,Evil Scientist,Plague Bearer,Plague Carrier,Ice King,Ice Queen,Wisp,Pyromancer,Wraith,Reaper,Flute Apprentice,Gray Werewolf,Gray Wolf,Plaguebearer,Pyronner,Pyro Bard,Runner Vampire,Imp,Saint,Immortal,Four Horsemen,Zombie (Old),Bitter Hag,Zombie,Plague Bearer

jack robinson!!!!

i remembered myself being hag but i realised ive only fakeclaimed hag

oh you dont even have the most games total

who does

thinky

Dennis

what was jack robinson/robin jackson's whole deal again?

he has 270 games

~~url~~

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/962372264316264478/974755425520082974/unknown.png (edited)

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how many minis

harpland

what was jack robinson/robin jackson's whole deal again?

townsfolk roles with no ability, but they need each other dead to be able to win

21:30

223

that less than me lol

21:30

which is understable

lmao

cuz i hosted more

Tsania

In the ones we have you've never been any of these roles: Zombie (Old),Wraith,Wolf's Cub,Vicious Hag,Unemployed Chef,Uncertain Hag,Thief,Tasty Villager,Tanner (Old),Tanner,Shepherd,Saint,Sacred Wolf,Runner Vampire,Royal Wolf,Robin Jackson,Riding Hood,Receptionist,Raven,Pyronner,Pyro Bard,Psychopath (Solo),Psychopath,Prophetic Hag,Plaguebearer,Plague Doctor,Plague Carrier,Plague Bearer,Plague Bearer,Packless Wolf,Medium,Macho,Knowledge Wolf,Juror,Jack Robinson,Innkeeper,Infecting Wolf,Imp,Immune Survivor,Immortal,Herald,Gray Wolf,Grandma,Four Horsemen,Fortune Apprentice (Old),Fortune Apprentice,Flute Apprentice,Exorcist,Executioner,Disguised Fox,Cursed Civilian Old,Cursed Civilian Alt,Curse Caster,Coward,Clairvoyant Fox,Cautious Hag,Burglar,Bitter Hag,Assistant,Archangel,Amnesiac,Acrobat

ive been thief, i just remembered. not as a final role but during s0g0

21:46

and on other occasions, a vamp game with thief (edited)

yeah it only has final role (main) or first role (mini)

@Host any reason why d0 doesnt follow the phase changes of #information

22:11

OH

22:11

WAIT

22:11

WE'RE NOT IN +1 UTC

22:12

ignore my question

22:12

<3

It's ok

22:12

I almost did UTC as my time zone for a second

makes sense

22:13

its probably cuz im not used to phase changes at 12 my time

thonk

why am i listening to 2008 Toyota Corolla by 2003 Toyota Corolla instead of listening to the new MASTER BOOT RECORD album that came out today and i Purchased

02:21

also why do i feel like talking so much. autism moment

Hey being drunk is fun

Thos

krutherea

Hey being drunk is fun

while you're still drunk, please tell me the names of all your fellow wolves

06:55

I'll give the wolf that outs all other wolves a banana

06:55

I mean, banana is banana

07:24

Bjt

07:24

I might be no wolf

07:24

So

I guess that means we don't have a grandma in our role list because they'd be eaten already

consumed

once again i may not be super active today bc eurovision but i think that applies to 50% of players

im watching it with this bitch ^

having heard 33/40 songs so far, I don't see much to wait for

i have heard none

12:32

and anyway nobody watches eurovision for the music

then?

saint-changia

and anyway nobody watches eurovision for the music

I watch Eurovision mainly for the music

if a company or agency had a Eurovision like song contest, would it be called Bureau Vision? (edited)

1

Italy 2015 is still one of my favorite songs of all time, and I still go back to it very frequently.

i always forget eurovision exists till like the night it's happening and at that point it's too late to arrange a group watch

oof

13:13

Vera was more a dnf than a dsq

Urgent announcement from Vera Cat

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Image attachment

13:21

Name: Nala

Steinistan

Vera was more a dnf than a dsq

lmao

Occupation: being adorable

she died before D1

13:22

so cold also be technically a DNS?

kitty kitty kitty kitty

What if you're all the dead ones and Vera is the only one truly alive

KITTY KITTY KITTY KITTY

catte

cattle

Cow moo

13:49

Moo

CAT CAT CAT CAT CAT CAT CAT CAT

~~url~~

https://tenor.com/view/boobs-cat-big-boobs-gif-25092046 (edited)

South Eclairia

she died before D1

They

Ethanistan

Urgent announcement from Vera Cat

Sending cats from the afterlife, great move

Werewolves Bot B

https://tenor.com/view/boobs-cat-big-boobs-gif-25092046 (edited)

hiiii big boobs hiiiiiiiii

Ethanistan

Urgent announcement from Vera Cat

I se she has some company in the

14:44

I see she has some company in the after life, that's good

the afterlife is reallife lmao

Ethanistan

Urgent announcement from Vera Cat

Oh my gosh @Veratia don't make me jealous

17:34

that cat is so baby

Eurovision ppl

18:11

I have a question

18:11

how did Latvia not make the finals

Bad

18:12

Overhyped

18:12

Decent song, worse performance

18:12

Can't remember exactly

its just wacky and funny

It is

better than the generic songs

I thought it could have a place in final too because it's fun, but the song itself isn't that good tbh

smh dennis

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More vera animal pics

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cute

20:57

petition that vera sends cute aminal pics everyday so we all have happy times

aweeee

vera*

20:59

Assume unless I say otherwise it's all from era

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What, is, this intermission bit between the songs....

italians

21:58

what did the pianos do that people stand on them

sorry dutchies this sucks (edited)

ukraine is a bop imo

krutherea

What, is, this intermission bit between the songs....

Some performances need time to setup the stage and remove it

i loved ukraine

Dennisia

Some performances need time to setup the stage and remove it

ye i know, but i mean the way they are filling it

but i think i preferred France

Gotta make it as cringe as possible

oh no germany

god damn Netherlands song sucks

dont worry

Germany fulfilling the trend of Germany being SHIT

germany makes it look like a winner

Middle Meistrea

god damn Netherlands song sucks

it sounds like the melody is written for english but is sung in dutch. and the OEHOE AHA just doesn't fucking do it

that talking part

22:16

its just awful

twenty one piloten

ngl I kind of liked Germany thought his vocals was good. (edited)

^ wolves kill wyatt

22:21

Any performances in the first 10 that was noteworthy? Missed those because I was sleeping.

norway

22:21

italy

22:21

spain

france

azerbaijan got a mimic

Thanks, I'll check those 4 out.

i hate these hosts

they whack

22:31

oh pink now

TIKTOK

did she just miss a note?

22:40

time to catch a train

MOLDOVAAAAA

Perfect eurovision song

Folklore and Rock N Roll

I think Moldova's making top 10, maybe even a dark horse for a top 5.

22:43

Such a standout compared to the rest of entries.

oh god not sweden

22:44

this is so overrated

As always

22:46

Likely high jury score with very little televote points

I disagree with very little televote points

22:46

This had a ton of hype coming into it

ofc it did

22:46

its sweden

no, but like even more than usual

Yea she does sing pretty well

i dont like the voice

It fits the song

As long as Sweden doesn't win I'm happy.

22:48

I personally think this is like 4th place material.

22:50

Australia is personally my winner if Sheldon performs this amazingly live, which I think he will.

22:50

I don't think it'll win though.

uk time

22:56

lets goooo

UK can be really hit or miss

its a hit

all depends on vocals here (edited)

Brilliant

23:00

absolutely brilliant

Ok that won't get 0 points for sure.

23:01

But there's still a chance it might be Lucie Jone'd. (edited)

23:02

The hosts mixing Spain and Romania

23:02

HOLLAND

Polland

i hear holand

In serious, I'm really looking forward to Poland.

UK may not get last this year

23:04

and maybe a vote from both judges and public

his voice is good

23:05

the lights are pain

Quite like Poland as well.

now srbska

Now time for extremely overhyped entry.

Overhyped?

23:09

I've only seen people hating it so far

its not the usual song from that region

23:09

I like it

Dennisia

I've only seen people hating it so far

Really? I've seen so much praise for it.

Yea I like it, it's different

this isn't very good

23:10

like it's just not as good as the other folk inspired pieces

23:10

like france and ukraine

^

Definitely true

its cowboy guy

Yee-haw

But I like france and ukraine for the same reasons

you know I got to root for this as a Westerner.

It's ok, it's not a bad song

i enjoyed serbias song

23:12

its not their usual entry

That's very fair, serbia is certainly extremely unique.

Have fun voting now

How long is voting usually open for?

23:21

oh wait is it open during the jury distribution phase?

Måneskin?

MÅNESKIN

23:25

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

austrian commentator comparing them to abba kekw

kek

23:26

I can see the comparison though, in terms of popularity.

nah, abba is like 100x better known

Maneskin is getting pretty well known worldwide, and I can see them getting even bigger.

krutherea

nah, abba is like 100x better known

Yeah for now definitely, but maybe Maneskin could get there in the distant future.

he is struggling to stand

You can see how much pain he is in

23:28

someone needs to get him a chair

23:29

or even just let him lean on someone

As long as Ukraine doesn't win, I'm happy.

23:33

I think there's a few songs that'd be good winners.

they will win

there was good though TBF, like they were a favourite to win before the war anyway (edited)

They're good, but I don't think it's winner material, and I don't think it'd have a chance without the war.

FLOATING HEAD

23:35

greenscreen time

1 min voting left

23:57

30 secs

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PLSSS

yeah ballads were spain

Maybe one day I'll be able to vote.

00:02

~~make it Worldvision Kappa, you already have Australia.~~

oh i liked ukraines i just preferred frances

@Host please remove the second poll results to avoid confusion

UK GOT POINTS

Switzerland 10 points kek

00:05

no seriously UK are getting hella points (edited)

spain 12 x2

Ukraine are getting wrecked as well

00:05

very surprised

they are all on spain

Ukraine 2 points out of 4 juries

uk getting points

Holy shit UK actually a frontrunner.

00:07

UK officially first

00:07

wtf

azerbaijan in the room

WHY ARE WE DOING WELL

why shouldnt the uk win?

UK confused itself by using a good song

its a great song

not used to it

I personally still think televotes lean Spain over UK

not sure

UK steamrolling rn

00:12

you know he has 12mil tik tok followers

00:12

right?

How big of that is an international audience though?

00:13

Hey, I might be wrong though, I just think Space Man is more of a Jury song.

WOW

Germany on its way to get 0

I did not expect the UK todo this well

no-one did

i did

I saw them getting top 10 again, its been a while

00:15

I was expecting like 2nd or 3rd for the UK, we still could do

I said in a different server, I thought they were going to be killed again, as previous amazing UK entries were killed (notably Lucie Jones)

00:15

this is a welcome surprise though

00:16

Greece can't vote Cyprus kek

00:16

i guess that's also geopolitical? (edited)

Germany are not going well....

is Germany going to get 0 points?

00:22

I didn't expect it to do well

00:22

but didn't expect 0

as usual

germany 2 0s in a row

00:22

lets goo

Still have no clue why Azerbaijan is in the top half, and has 3 x12

00:23

France only 1 point is by far the biggest surprise to me though.

idk why sweden is so pooular

00:24

also f poland

F

00:24

Poland deserved better.

bottom of first half

00:24

and norway

France finally some points.

btw it was mentioned that 6 jury votes were changed

yea was there any news about that

i think everyone loses

UK WON JURY VOTES

gg

00:39

now get ready to be buried by spain

00:39

even though I would hate it

LETS GO UK! LETS GO!

00:40

286 points!!!!! We got 0 last time!!!! (edited)

I think UK vs Spain is going to be close.

00:40

I still think Spain's the favorite. (edited)

i'm surprised seeing uk get anything

I think ukrains gonna get the public votes

I thought Ukraine would be more a jury vote

no

nah

00:44

germany got points

No 0 pointers this year

Moldova

was always a televote song

it fucked SO HARD (edited)

These are all quite high for this early stage

00:49

this might be a 0

00:49

yeah

Wyatia

No 0 pointers this year

nice

00:49

there's 0 pointers in both votes though

new leader

There's already 2 200s distributed

00:50

is Ukraine really going to be 200+?

00:50

we'll see.

nope

3 points lol

but I don't think UK and sweden will get giant points from public votes either

00:51

so there's still a chance

2 points

oof

oof australia

Australia deserved better.

nederlands

00:52

42

Moldova officially top 10

gg

00:55

ukraine won lmao

oof

00:56

I was dead wrong

439

Ukraine wins

00:56

sadge

ukraines good enough to win

00:58

like yes it got a lot of politics votes

00:59

but it genuinely bopped

it was good i liked it

00:59

i can live with it winning

my dads mad

00:59

lmao

lol

Yeah Ukraine was a good song, I disagree it was good enough to win, but I'm glad that a least a decent song benefited from politics. (edited)

tea is being thrown rn

LOL

I didn't keep track of votes, but for some reason I think this is going to be quite low? (not that low it turned out) (edited)

01:01

if my mental math is near the mark.

Wyatia

Yeah Ukraine was a good song, I disagree it was good enough to win, but I'm glad that a least a decent song benefited from politics. (edited)

i liked Go_A more (last year's ukrainian entry) was way better

01:01

but it heavily bopped

Uk 2nd

Go_A was great

01:03

but this also deserves it

saint-changia

i liked Go_A more (last year's ukrainian entry) was way better

Weirdly I liked this year's more, but I know I was way in the minority last year.

yes

01:03

because you have bad taste

01:03

sorry wyatt

kek

imagine having different music prefernce than someone else

I'm not too disappointed, Ukraine isn't a bad song, there's way worse winners in the past. (edited)

01:05

it still makes top 10 even without politics

400 points to Ukraine, wow

01:06

I think it's the time the public has given the most points to a country ever

Has to be

italy got like 500 last year didn't they?

318 public points

01:10

524 total

ah yeah

from what i can see it's indeed the most points from public or jury

01:15

but not most total

01:15

even though we only have this system since 2016

Yeah Portugal 2017 got a ton of points

01:21

382 jury, 376 tele

saint-changia

i liked Go_A more (last year's ukrainian entry) was way better

That was so good

03:46

Moldova didn't win uh

03:46

Wyatia

I'm not too disappointed, Ukraine isn't a bad song, there's way worse winners in the past. (edited)

Meh, not many. This win was purely political and it's quite annoying.

All I can say is that given the situation, Ukraine could have definitely had a way worse song than it did and still win.

12:49

I can imagine scenarios where I'd be way more pissed.

whats funny is that that song didnt even win the national playoffs

12:50

it got 2nd

12:50

the actual winner was removed because of a fake paper scandal (edited)

12:50

so they could enter krim

Wyatia

All I can say is that given the situation, Ukraine could have definitely had a way worse song than it did and still win.

Yeah, but Eurovision shouldn't be this political. They have such strict rules against political songs etc. and then they let this happen.

thats what happens when you let the oublic decide

Middle Tortlea

Yeah, but Eurovision shouldn't be this political. They have such strict rules against political songs etc. and then they let this happen.

I'd understand the frustration if the jury vote was lopsided, but imo the jury vote on Ukraine was pretty accurate.

the public made it very political

^

480 points if you get all 12s and ukraine had 439

12:52

41 points shy of the max

Yeah, but in my opinion it should've been disqualified by the organizers.

That's just unfair to Ukraine.

why would it have to be disqualified??

12:54

it wasn't written with anything political in mind, that's just the message linked to it

Because it turns a music contest into a political contest? What's the point of a music competition if you already know the winner.

lmao

Middle Tortlea

Because it turns a music contest into a political contest? What's the point of a music competition if you already know the winner.

The viewers wanted to make it into a political contest though.

spoken like someone who has not watched eurovision be political for the past sixty years

"you're too likely to win, we're gonna have to disqualify you"

No, they have, but this is another level.

eurovision is politics. that's just how it is

But disqualifying ukraine regardless of the contents of the song, would be political in of itself, no?

very

exactly

but like half of the time the winners are helped a lot by reasons not related to music

It being political was decided by viewers right, not judges or ukraine. From what i understand

State of Lufferia

It being political was decided by viewers right, not judges or ukraine. From what i understand

Yes.

judges said uk wins

12:58

public said haha funny

12:58

ukraine

but still, it won by such a big margin, I'm not even sure how much the political side really affected the outcome

i mean if you don't think all the juries giving the uk points was political despite it not getting ANY last year was political, then what is?

saint-changia

i mean if you don't think all the juries giving the uk points was political despite it not getting ANY last year was political, then what is?

but last year's song was bad, this year's song was good?

but not winner material imo

it was not better than all the others

Wyatia

The viewers wanted to make it into a political contest though.

The organizers too strayed far from neutrality.

I can see juries really liking it.

it was maybe in top 40% or 30% but by no means should it have got that many votes

saint-changia

i mean if you don't think all the juries giving the uk points was political despite it not getting ANY last year was political, then what is?

What's political about it.

saint-changia

it was maybe in top 40% or 30% but by no means should it have got that many votes

Are you saying Sweden and Spain were better songs then UK, and appealed to the juries more? (edited)

also no

i like how 3 nations just didnt show up and the notary had to give the jury results

Steinistan

i like how 3 nations just didnt show up and the notary had to give the jury results

6 countries' votes were adjusted by the EBU, 3 of which were those missing ones

Dennisia

but still, it won by such a big margin, I'm not even sure how much the political side really affected the outcome

It did. You don't get 439 points for that song, ever.

sweden was a classic jury favourite imo, i hated it

i didnt like the voice

spain's was an actually good song

Dennisia

but still, it won by such a big margin, I'm not even sure how much the political side really affected the outcome

It affects it a ton. Even if 10 percent of viewers in every country give Ukraine a pity point, given Ukraine imo is around a 5th place song without any influence, those 10 percent in each country is enough to give Ukraine to win in virtually every country.

Uk was imo the best one

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What the fuck

They can't count, Israel should have 4 and San Marino 6 total.

it says smr voted themselves

yea that was just a mistake i guess

Oh.

but it's really weird that they adjusted the jury votes

13:06

although they probably did in such a way that it didnt really affect the results?

I'd hope?

13:06

Poland and Romania having the exact same votes though is a huge yikes

Shows how corrupt the organizers were this year.

13:14

Poland was so robbed this year.

Poland really was.

poland was destroyed this year

13:14

i am sad

13:15

he was good

poland deserved better indeeed

13:28

one of my favourites

I liked him

13:29

strong voice

13:29

nice song

13:29

lights were a pain in the eyes

13:30

but its eurovision so its normal

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Looks like it could still taste pretty good though

yeah true unfortunately

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