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Werewolves Revamped

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@Supreme Sorcerer Suso has created a new CC! CC Members | Total: 5 @Vera, Druid of the Spring @Sharl Imposbl, the Trickster @Sorcerer Kreh'Sath Uhr @Leilabra Cadabra @Supreme Sorcerer Suso

Hello hello

epic

22:27

Now we wait for leila to come online

Btw, bemo has been avoiding my questions the whole game

22:29

I have no clue what he is

I'll talk to him ig

22:30

he's new so he might not know what's going on?

He might not know

22:30

We have played another version of this before tho

right

I think right now our biggest worry is plague

22:32

Everything else seems under control kinda

might be

22:33

@Sorcerer Kreh'Sath Uhr can you paste your role list in here?

22:33

so leila can see

will do

22:35

Role List | Key: ~~Dead~~ Likely/ Guess Confirmed Town | 11 Mage/Citizen x3 - harperette, ~~Jayanna~~ ??? Huntress x2 - ~~Jay~~, Luffy Hooker x1 - enshano Witch x1 - ~~Wyatt~~ Huntsman x1 - Meuh Medium x1 - Bemo Ranger x1 - Arch Journalist x1 - Stein Werewolves | 6 Direwolf x2 - kruthers (witch), Vera (Hag) Scared Wolf x1 - Sharl Psychic Wolf x1 - Suso (Journalist) Saboteur Wolf x1 - ~~Swurtle~~ Clairvoyant Fox 1 - Leilaboo Solo - Plague | 2 - dennis Plague Bearer x1 - ??? Plague Carrier x1 - ??? Unaligned | 4 Hag x3 - Turtle (cautious), Hexa (cautious), Mat Plague Doctor x1 - ~~Ethan~~ Uknowns Quantum, Risabu (edited)

We can add Leila as fox

22:35

And Ethan claimed doctor to me

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Pinned a message.

Also we pretty much know Arch is ranger

yeah

22:36

and i dont like that

22:36

i told them not to change target often because of plague but i fear whoever it may be on

22:36

but its likely best to get them out of the way quickly

ye we could kill them tonight, so it can become a power play tomorrow

I could talk to the doctor in case of an emergency

probably for the best to get rid of the confirmed town as soon as possible

22:38

right

I would have to think of an excuse though

does ethan have any more info he's willing to give?

Asked whether he knows of any infected

22:40

Seems like a reasonable thing to ask as town

ye

22:41

definitely for a doctor claim

omggg

23:01

phew!!!

23:02

hiii

23:02

Stein is journalist, astraphiliac is huntress

allright

23:02

hi leila

from my checks

23:02

hello helpo

welcome, dont join the pack <3

what should i claim btw

23:02

yep

23:02

was my plan

23:02

to find wolves

so right now all we know is that we killed the witch n1

23:03

and our saboteur wolf just got lynched

23:03

pinned is a list

okay

@Sorcerer Kreh'Sath Uhr can you update the list with stein as journo and jay as huntress

will do

With 2 checks per night, we can do quite a bit

23:05

One of them can only confirm but hey

we'll probably be fine

23:06

rn we need to worry about who we are gonna kill

23:06

ranger is currently a big problem because he got confirmed

Now we don't need to be worried about killing the fox

23:06

And the doctor kinda but not 100%

23:07

Also hags

so we have a list of non-wolves/non-ua now

I think ranger may be an ok target

me too

23:08

i only think ranger is probably targeting kruthers

The only issues are if they suspect us and have us targeted

23:08

Or if they are infected

23:09

The later we go for ranger and huntresses, the higher the change is they are targetting us

yeah im worried about the infection

23:09

they're a public claim and they're a targeting role so i believe them to be infected

When can the plague team release rats?

23:10

End night?

so maybe getting the huntress out of the way might be best

23:10

uh yeah

23:10

lemme check

Then they can't have targeted him yet(?

every night

Although just changing target could have gotten him infected

they can, and if they do, i think rodent applies before we kill

23:11

@Thomas, Warlock from Sirdia is this true^

Huntress should be a good choice in that case

yup

23:12

i'll go target jay then rn

rodent applies before kill

thought so, thanks for confirming ^-^

Does Jay have any reason to suspect us?

23:15

Probably kruthers, same as Arch

23:15

But not really any strong suspicion

23:16

And I doubt they'd change target for that

yeah they didnt trust me as hag but because turtle didnt claim, i think they trust me now

Can huntress be targetting no one?

23:16

Because if so that may be the case for now

23:16

Killing someone is pretty bold with the current claims

they can, but jay wouldve chosen by now

Maybe Meuh is the huntsman?

23:23

Another wild guess but she seems pretty confident on Arch being town

23:23

And just town, not a specific role

oh interesting

23:24

might be worth checking

23:25

i suggest leila checks her tomorrow?

I think they just dont trust me because i was not really properly playing today, which is completely my own fault for this, ill work on a way to fig myself out

allright

Are hag spells one use?

Sorcerer Kreh'Sath Uhr

I think they just dont trust me because i was not really properly playing today, which is completely my own fault for this, ill work on a way to fig myself out

stay a bit more quiet tomorrow maybe to let the focus shift to others

Supreme Sorcerer Suso

Are hag spells one use?

they're one time use, but if the hags get wronged they get more uses

Also, huntsman cannot tell Leila is with us, interesting

Vera, Druid of the Spring

stay a bit more quiet tomorrow maybe to let the focus shift to others

ye ill keep it quite to just a few ccs, my normal plays

I fear though they may have Huntsman checked me ill be sure to cause as much chaos on my way down (if i do)

I'll be less active tomorrow because i have work

Sorcerer Kreh'Sath Uhr

I fear though they may have Huntsman checked me ill be sure to cause as much chaos on my way down (if i do)

id love to see it

23:33

i fully support chaos as long as it doesnt reveal us

you have seen the damage i can cause before

23:33

im very good a sewing seeds of distrust

gotta go down swinging

23:34

but please stay alive for as long as you can

yep

epic

I will, i never intend to die (thats true as i have never played angle lol)

I just realized prophetic hags can only check alignment

yup

I was here for the entire game thinking they could see roles

yeah i forgot but i could recover from that quite easily

normally only a pack investigative is the only one to see roles, most town ones guess as FT is OP

yup

Yeah it does sound op

23:37

Fox is also op if you can get in contact of course

yeah

23:37

thing about most invest roles is that they're weak to disguises

23:37

but this game doesnt have disguises >:)

Otherwise I'd be going insane

Vera, Druid of the Spring

i suggest leila checks her tomorrow?

Arch?

meuh

oh

So who we killing tonight, would it not be best to take out arch to remove structure?

arch is pretty much confirmed ranger and if pb is smart, arch is infected

true

right

That's why we were going for Jay

im killing jay because theyre huntress

They are huntress

Ye and hopefully arch will die end of night 2

not sure actually

23:40

or do you mean second night

23:40

because he's likely infected this night

ye sorry night 3

but yeah

23:41

its likely

should I claim huntress?

06:12

I think I should cuz then other huntress might target me and if we do kill that huntress, I'll still survive

06:18

and should I wait till end of night to claim?

huntress is fine

09:49

we're killing off 1 huntress

i need a claim too

10:11

idk what

oh uh

btw i wont be online much today so if they decide to lynch me dont let me die pls_plead

pls_plead

(edited)

10:56

(dont think i'll be lynched but yknow)

okay

11:01

I am still thinking of a claim

if you really cant think of something just choose cit

I haven't said anything to arch yet btw

11:20

I don't know if I should

11:20

Staying silent has worked pretty well for now

youre a new player so they probably wont suspect you much if you stay silent

11:27

gotta love the meta

11:27

if you want you can claim journalist

11:27

if we dont find huntress tonight we can kill stein

can i claim journalist

I already did on ccs

oh

fuck, the doctor is dead

12:01

Not terrible

am I still checking Meuh today?

But not super good

im claiming citizen but only to arch for now

12:13

with the excuse that i havent been claiming to others bc "they'll just think im sus"

Btw, I'm unsure if I should say that Ethan claimed he was the doctor (edited)

12:22

Also, now that he's dead no one knows I claimed journalist I guess

Arch contacted me, kinda busy rn so I'll answer later

12:33

Thinking on maybe claiming doctor instead of journal now that Ethan's dead, but may be very risky

hell yeah

15:04

good way to enter my work break

Supreme Sorcerer Suso

Thinking on maybe claiming doctor instead of journal now that Ethan's dead, but may be very risky

interesting, i do think your journo claim is very believable tho

I claimed journalist

15:05

Been talking with arch

15:06

Sent some snippets of the fake journal (edited)

15:06

He told me someone else was claiming journalist (surely that's Stein) and recommended I switched my journal target to citizen

15:06

Since I had told him I had it on witch

15:07

So this probably means Stein has it on citizen

yup

15:08

sounds about right

15:08

just follow arch

Leilabra Cadabra

am I still checking Meuh today?

Also I think this is probably the best course of action rn

yup

15:11

check meuh

cool

im trying to get hags to agree for a hag reporter

Vera, Druid of the Spring

im trying to get hags to agree for a hag reporter

get turtle as reporter (edited)

wow

15:59

they are lynching stein

Gg

insane stuff

16:00

I may be next if the diary gives any clues tho

16:00

Lynching releases the journal, right?

Ye

We need to absolutely get Arch tho

16:02

If he gets reporter we are done

16:02

Hmm

To prove them as true and to reveal the citizen

We need to find the damn medium as well

They are killing stein because they think he is not the journalist (from what arch said to me)

16:35

my cover will get blown tonight though if arch becomes reporter

Sorcerer Kreh'Sath Uhr

They are killing stein because they think he is not the journalist (from what arch said to me)

Arch believes I am the journalist (edited)

one min are they about to lynch turtle, this could really go in our favour

I think turtle lynch seems to be a joke?

16:44

idt they're serious abt it

16:46

ok so what if we make mat resign from mayor tonight and yeet reporter tonight to minimise affects on us if Arch gets reporter

If Arch gets reporter Kruthers and I both get our covers blown off

16:47

So that's concerning

I have no clue of what to do now

have you considered anxiety? always a good move in a werewolves game imo

if we kill arch tonight, the effects will be minimized to the 1 citizen, and who ever has not been CCed

Can't arch look at the dead list tonight and tell others?

yes but it would be localised to the ones who who are confirmed, and the only one of them who could speak up would be the citizen, and we can counter them

17:01

which would force other TP to out themselves

Thomas, Warlock from Sirdia

have you considered anxiety? always a good move in a werewolves game imo

i am currently a happy user of anxiety! thanks for recommending!

wait fr stein lynch??

yeah uh

18:28

the arch reporter is scary

18:29

because it will reveal suso as fake journo

and me as fake witch

yup

18:29

i dont like this

18:32

gonna try my best to get the coven to work with me

lets hope someone imprtant suddenly dies of plague

18:41

we need to somehow get a message to the plaguebearer of who the visiting roles of town are

18:42

who is @Leilabra Cadabra checking?

Sharl Imposbl, the Trickster

ok so what if we make mat resign from mayor tonight and yeet reporter tonight to minimise affects on us if Arch gets reporter

and what about this plan?

Sharl Imposbl, the Trickster

who is @Leilabra Cadabra checking?

meuh

hope its Medium

Sharl Imposbl, the Trickster

ok so what if we make mat resign from mayor tonight and yeet reporter tonight to minimise affects on us if Arch gets reporter

yeah unless meuh is huntsman, arch is definitely our target

Meuhdium

meuh medium isnt gonna do shit

Arch renamed our cc to vortex-vanquisher without saying anything

20:19

And I have no clue of what that means

20:19

I've been away for a few hours, something important?

mine got named calamity-queller

i think he's just having fun with cc names

ye

Supreme Sorcerer Suso

I've been away for a few hours, something important?

not much, dont think theres a way to keep arch from becoming reporter or to keep stein from getting lynched

20:24

you and kruthers are fucked

I have an idea

20:25

It might not save me but it can help

what do you mean

I'll be alive tomorrow and Arch is going to say to lynch me of course

20:25

Probably kruthers otherwise

makes sense

But I think we can twist the store

20:26

So it looks like he's voting people out by manipulating the story

thing is that probably one of you will be revealed if we kill arch

Does that happen if he gets voted out?

20:26

I guess yeah

if we kill him yeah

Unlike huntress

he's the ranger so he'll out someone

Supreme Sorcerer Suso

Does that happen if he gets voted out?

I mean exile

oh

20:27

with exile it wont

20:27

OH

20:27

thats smart

20:27

ranger doesnt reveal on lynch

yup

20:27

That's our chance

okay so

20:27

what do you propose?

20:27

working with steib might work?

20:28

stein*

20:28

we have 1.5 hrs

I'm not sure if he'll help

stein doesnt wanna be lynched either

He probably trusts Arch

20:29

And just thinks he's getting tricked

20:29

Which is exactly what is happening

yea

Maybe someone can approach him and ask why Arch suspects him?

20:30

I don't think arch has revealed I'm the journalist

20:30

And neither have I to anyone else that is alive

i will ask

Bemo is pushing me on my role

20:32

I think I have to keep claiming Journalist

yeah

20:33

just do

Bemo claims medium

agh

20:38

mat doesnt wanna cooperate

@Leilabra Cadabra what info are you trying to get from bemo?

idk just saying hi

20:53

anything you want me to try?

Not really, I'm just talking to him

20:54

And he mentioned you sending him a message

oh

20:54

yeah im just checking in

Epic

using my ccs and trying not to be inactive

Btw, I'm 90% sure Bemo is yelling the truth

okay good

20:58

cuz medium is fine to keep alive for now

He also says that he asked Wyatt after he died whether he was citizen and got a no

20:58

That's not a very good question from him tbh

hm

20:58

its better than nothing tbh

20:58

but aghh

20:58

im so anxious rn

But Arch knows he's medium

we're so fucked

20:59

yeah

They don't know who the huntsman is, right?

21:04

Othewise they would check me before lynching stein

21:04

Also bemo thinks Wyatt was the huntsman

seems like it

21:05

so they don't know the huntsman

21:06

its more likely meuh is the huntsman now

Really?

21:06

Meuh was in contact with arch

hm

21:06

so not huntsman

I think they would know by now

yeah

Probably huntress or cit

oh might be

- @The Captain of Wizardry

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- @Harp the Spellbinder realsad

realsad

- @Anna, Witch of Mystford tortoise

tortoise

- @Kauzor, Summoner of Turtles

- @Quantowmancer

- @Den, The Seer from Featsbitriks

- @Risabu Runewyck Runewyck (edited)

21:07

These are the people I have no clue on

oh interesting

21:07

luffy seems to side with stein, not lynching him

21:09

also whoever witch is keep reporter alive

WAHAHAH QUANTUM

epic

21:10

Btw, if we wanted to we could totally rig reporter, but it would be too obvious

21:10

Just like super extremely obvious

yeah

21:10

it crossed my mind but its way too obvious

21:11

all wolves would need to switch

21:12

we could maybe get stein and luffy with us

It's just insane

21:12

I think town is still too strong

we got fucked with the lynch yesterday

If two more were dead, maybe

ethan woulve voted with us but jay killed him

Also I know no one who claims to be a citizen

yeah me neither

21:14

which is funny

21:17

i am kinda tempted to get the wolves to switch

21:17

just for reporter

21:17

there's already 4 votes on hexa

21:18

12 on arch

21:18

if we get the 3 wolves online to switch it'd be 9 on arch, 7 on hexa

21:19

if leila comes online that'd be 8 on arch, 8 on hexa

21:19

wait fuck im already on hexa

21:20

yeah this is uh

Mat counts for 2

yup i counted that one already

21:20

currently its 4 hexa, 12 arch with the wolves (minus sharl cuz he's asleep) switching, it'd be 9 arch, 7 hexa

21:20

im already on hexa

21:21

we'd need someone else to switch from arch to hexa

I don't think we can

21:22

And we would need to think of an excuse

yeah

21:23

it's basically impossible

21:23

epsn

And Arch is going to know I'm faking it if I switch specifically

21:23

Because it would make no sense

yeah

21:23

he's gonna know either way

I think I just have to go down causing chaos

honorable

21:23

we're in charge here, we're the killers

We have to get rid of a useful town role tonight

they have no active killing roles

21:24

arch, we'd get that stupid ranger out of the way and the reporter

21:24

and the town lead

Hmm

21:26

Then who do we shift blame to?

arch is dangerous, town lead is so so dangerous

I guess switching blame to Arch would be very hard regardless

yeah

Everyone trusts him

thats why he needs to die

Vera, Druid of the Spring

arch, we'd get that stupid ranger out of the way and the reporter

@Thomas, Warlock from Sirdia please dont let me suggest ranger for a role list again

thonk

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I mean, the reason it's a problem for us is yesterday's disastrous lynch

true

Otherwise he wouldn't be trusted as much

that went all wrong

21:33

sadly enough

I think we also should keep an eye on possible lynch switches

21:35

Not likely

21:35

But it could happen

oh definitely

Wait

21:36

If we can get an abstention on the lynch

21:36

Would that be good?

21:37

Then Arch wouldn't know

21:37

And we could kill him tonight

abstain doesnt cancel

He would know about kruthers tho

21:37

Oh right

21:37

Fuck

yeah

Abstain wont make a diffrence

epsn

I will be tomorrow lynch target for sure

are you all feeling the anxiety?

Either you or me

21:37

Which is

21:37

Not good

i prefer kruthers to die here

21:38

psychic wolf is a bit better than direwolf

Because we could use the role guessing for one more night

most likly me they will see me as more of a threat, ill make sure of it

Supreme Sorcerer Suso

Because we could use the role guessing for one more night

we still gotta find the huntsman

our best bet tomorrow will be to cause diss-trust and confusion with town

That somehow works better than expected every time

21:39

So it's worth a try

✨ chaos ✨

I'm going to keep writing the fake journal

21:40

Just for fun at this point tbh

it is fun isnt it

21:40

journalist is a good role

Arch decided to lynch Stein because i sent him like a walltext of fake journal

21:41

I find it very funny

21:41

He also asked if I was an alt of a more experienced player

wahahaha

21:41

LMAO

21:41

who did he think you were?

21:41

did he say?

Nope

lmao

Do we have any more role claims for me to update, im going to try and find out as much as i can before tomorrows phase

jay is one of the huntresses

Bemo claims medium

21:49

And I don't think he's lying but not confirmed

Sorcerer Kreh'Sath Uhr

Do we have any more role claims for me to update, im going to try and find out as much as i can before tomorrows phase

jay isnt huntsman, theyre huntress

21:50

huntsman might be meuh but we'll know start night

Vera, Druid of the Spring

jay isnt huntsman, theyre huntress

ye i just noticed that mistake

I'm pretty sure Enshano isn't plague

21:51

Because he genuinely seemed clueless when I spoke to him earlier today

yeah he claimed hooker to me before he realised he probably shouldnt have claimed it

21:51

i cced him around the time ts started explaining the game to him

21:51

so i honestly do think he's hooker

lmao

so we just have the unknowns left

Meuh and Luffy most likely town from their behavior

21:52

The rest I know nothing about

yeah

Supreme Sorcerer Suso

These are the people I have no clue on

Harper claimed citizen to me

Epic

21:53

Add that to the list

im online, whats this lynch plan

Kruthers and I go down in style

21:53

That's the current plan I guess

yup

Leilabra Cadabra

im online, whats this lynch plan

dont go against it, its no use

okay

we're gonna kill arch tonight

Ill do the killing part encase they are infected, unless we want to help infect others, may help draw town away from us

hm

21:57

its likely they are infected

21:57

so yeah, maybe its best you attack tonight

I'm trying to prepare my response

gl suso

When I get accused I'm going to act upset

21:58

If they ask me why I didn't come forward, Arch told me to stay silent

21:59

I'll maybe send snippets of the diary saying that this will make it less useful once it gets revealed

21:59

But that it's the last resort i have to prove myself

21:59

I think that has a minimal chance of working

21:59

But better than nothing

yeah

22:00

its better to go down fighting

22:01

allright

22:01

so @Sorcerer Kreh'Sath Uhr add meuh to huntsman confirmed

22:02

@Supreme Sorcerer Suso any idea who to check?

Ok

22:03

My suspicions on Meuh were correct

22:03

I don't know who to check currently

22:03

If we could get someone to claim something that'd be good

22:03

Because I think confirming enshano and bemo isn't super useful

22:04

Arch already knows the stuff I assume

how do you already know about meuh

22:04

oh yeah my results get posted in wolfpack

22:04

lmaooo

wolfpack message lmao

We got ts's message

uglysmile

Not publicly, sorry

22:05

??

22:05

This is

22:05

Like

yeah

SUPER GOOD

they know it and some random trusted town will know it

People are going to distrust this so much

sort of, yeah

Like just the random people

they'll announce it at some point tho

Not before arch is dead

22:06

I hope so at least

and people they "trust" but trust is a big word when they trusted you over stein ahaha

im going to play the role of putting on pressure to cause diss-trust

they'll pronbably announce something during the night tho

22:07

like @ participant this person and this person are lying, kill

okay guys

22:16

apparently luffy is huntress claim

Ok

wants to target turtle (the hag)

22:16

turtle will protect himself so he doesnt get wronged

Vera, Druid of the Spring

apparently luffy is huntress claim

That is quite believable

Vera, Druid of the Spring

wants to target turtle (the hag)

That's like not good but not bad for us I guess

thing is that i dont wanna kill luffy

22:17

arch is way more important to kill

22:17

and i dont trust luffy to be targeting turtle

yeah (edited)

22:18

We need to go for arch

so we can currently heck: enshano as hooker arch as ranger luffy as huntress

22:18

all of those are just confirmations

Vera, Druid of the Spring

turtle will protect himself so he doesnt get wronged

surly we want town to rong the hags

we do

22:19

but i dont trust luffy to be targeting turtle

22:19

cuz i think he's actually targeting you or suso

22:19

and this is all a ploy to kill a wolf

would make sense

I don't think luffy knows anything about me

22:20

Maybe Arch told him

he mightve

But they didn't seem to be getting along very well

did any of us counterclaim huntress?

i dont think so, which unless the plauge bare did, they are confirmed

fricc

So

22:23

We are only missing plague and citizens on our list

22:23

A citizen check has 50% chance of returning true on the people we have no clue

22:23

One of the plague checks 25%

22:24

Citizen reveals very little if true and quite a bit if false

yeah

22:24

we could check someone for cit then

Plague reveals a lot if true, worthless if false

that's a good idea

Two of the people we don't know are Risabu and Den

22:25

Risabu voted for Den on the election poll (edited)

22:25

On day 1

they barely talk in public channels

22:25

HUH

22:25

seems very plague like

22:26

risabu is new, might not know what they were doing

I was suspecting Anna of plague because she was confrontational to random town people

22:26

But probably just memeing

hm

22:26

who are the people we're missing from the list

Those three and Kauzor

@Sorcerer Kreh'Sath Uhr hexa is compucat, hag

Just 4 slots

22:27

I think the 3 town claims we have make sense

22:27

Although they could be fake

Signed Up Players | Total: 23

- Vera but actually a frog (@Vera, Druid of the Spring)

- Captain Luffy (@The Captain of Wizardry)

- Leilaboo (@Leilabra Cadabra)

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- harperette (@Harp the Spellbinder) ▪️ - Ethan. (@First Exorcist, Ethanian) gibagul

gibagul

- Suso (@Supreme Sorcerer Suso)

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- MatMeistress (@Mat Crowsbane) realsad

realsad

- Jayanna (@Anna, Witch of Mystford)

- Sharl Eclair (@Sharl Imposbl, the Trickster) tortoise

tortoise

- Mr. Turtle (@Kauzor, Summoner of Turtles)

- Quantum (@Quantowmancer)

- kruthers (@Sorcerer Kreh'Sath Uhr)

- shapechange (@Shapeshifter Jay)

- CompuKat (@The Sorceress' Cat)

- Dennis (@Den, The Seer from Featsbitriks)

- Risabu (@Risabu Runewyck)

- Steinator (@Stein of the Pyres) pensivegayblob

pensivegayblob

- Enshano (@Enchanto the Enchanter) uglysmile

uglysmile

- Meuh (@Sorceress Meuh)

- Swurtle (@Swurt the Legendary)

- Wyatt (@Scul Wyzart)

- Jean D. Arch (@The Arch-Alchemist)

- Bemo (@Bemocus Pocus) (edited)

Or another member of town

kauzor is turtle, the 3rd hag

Oh

22:27

Right

22:27

I got the list wrong then

22:27

It's @The Captain of Wizardry

@Sorcerer Kreh'Sath Uhr did harp claim cit to you?

Leilabra Cadabra

Harper claimed citizen to me

.

ah i didnt notice that

22:28

i see

22:28

so

22:28

harp, jayanna, quantum, risabu and dennis

im going to try and get a claim off dennis

Harp is the likeliest to be lying from what I know

in which i do think the risabu/dennis thing is kinda sus

22:29

the election vote

22:29

harp could just as well be cit

22:29

i havent talked to her

Could totally be

22:30

But I have more reasons to believe Enshano, Bemo, and Luffy

yeah

22:30

i do believe them

Dennis claims cit, im going to try and get a read on them

does anyone have a cc with any of the others?

not me

22:32

I have a lot of cc slots tho

i have a cc with quantum

22:32

yea same

Should I cc risabu?

I have jayanna

yeah, go ahead

22:32

allright

22:32

so we're missing harp in our cc list

22:32

i assume @Leilabra Cadabra has a cc with harp tho

Syntax error. Invalid Player #1 (false)!

22:34

✅ Created #😱!

ah, yes

22:34

syntax error success

as you do

adding the user failed, creating the cc succeeded

it means that the cc was created but a player wasnt added

sadness

you can add players in the cc tho

22:36

$cc add <player>

Yeah

22:36

Got that

Vera, Druid of the Spring

i assume @Leilabra Cadabra has a cc with harp tho

I do, she claimed citizen

figures

oh sorry i alreadu said that

dw

22:37

i forgot

i am very tired

22:37

lol

22:38

sleepy lielsboo

@Leilabra Cadabra you are sleepyboo

Risabu says they told their role to Arch

22:38

Won't tell me

lets check them as cit then

who

risabu

22:38

new player

oh

all we can do is check players as cits now

22:39

if they're cits, we know they're cits, if not, we know they're plague

makes sense

so who's the most sus

22:40

2 of those five are plague

22:40

3 are cit

22:41

im thinking its just guesses at this point

22:42

dennis is always a little quiet

I don't know

harp only talks offtopic

It's a bit confusing

22:42

Risabu doesn't give me any info, as expected

jayanna isnt very active but she can be

Really, claims aren't going to do us much good now

22:42

It's either cit or plague

22:43

And I don't think anyone is fake claiming hooker or medium

22:43

They would have by now

so im thinking jayanna but i cant say anything about risabu and quantum because i havent played with them before

22:43

yup

22:43

theres a random command

22:44

should we use it on them and check whoever it lands on as cit?

I think our guess is better

22:44

It's more stressful

22:44

But it's just going to be better than rng

okay so who will we check

22:44

im thinking risabu, dennis or jayanna

22:45

dennis is normally quiet

22:45

so in order: risabu jayanna dennis

22:45

i dont suspect the others as plague

Anyways, from what I know I'm just going to tell you that my guess for your role is citizen If you can confirm that for me that'd be great, otherwise I'm rolling with it

22:48

This is my last attempt at getting a claim from them

22:49

Probably not going to work

lets see

Didn't work

sad

22:51

that was risabu?

Yeah

22:56

Talked with him a bit and at least not super suspicious in his speech

hm

22:56

do you think they're plague or cit? (edited)

Can't be sure at all

22:57

I casted some doubts on Arch

nice

So in case they are citizen that may be useful

23:00

man i hope i didnt give my role to the evil guy thats what i was afraid of from the start but they really pressured me

from Risabu

23:00

Does that tell us anything?

hm

23:00

i have no idea who he's talking about

Arch

23:01

Makes sense if you read the rest of the conversation

hm

This was the exchange

23:01

He asked me why I didn't trust Arch

23:01

I said

He really hastily went for Stein and I don't think I can provide enough evidence for him to be so certain And he also was the one to accuse Swurt pushing very hard yesterday Pretty sure Swurt was wolf But since Stein must be wolf, Arch may be plague And could try to get rid of me tomorrow This way he takes care of both journalist claims Which would explain why he chose so easily

oh interesting

They asked me why no one was claiming ranger then

doesnt sound like plague at all

And I said it could be Wyatt

you claimed to risa?

Because

First night, so may not have gotten the chance to pick a target People were told to be careful with that because of the infection spread

23:02

(This was my explanation for it)

23:02

Yeah

23:02

I did claim

interesting

I have to at this point

23:02

Since bemo knows as well

seems to be willing to accept you as the journalist

23:03

makes sense, arch hasnt openly revealed wolves

But if they consider their role important

hm

What could it be?

thonk

Supreme Sorcerer Suso

man i hope i didnt give my role to the evil guy thats what i was afraid of from the start but they really pressured me

from Risabu

Because I don't think a cit would say this

yeah

23:04

plague wouldnt either is the problem

I just remembered something

23:07

But I don't have the cc for it still fuck

23:07

I lost it

hm?

Bemo told me at some point he didn't know how medium worked

23:08

Like a day before claiming medium

hm

He said that they could ask stuff to the dead

23:08

Then I said only yes or no

23:08

And he was surprised by that limitation

oh

23:08

huh

But I don't remember the exact moment this happened

23:08

And that cc I gave away to Arch so he would trust me

23:09

He asked me to make a cc between him and Enshano

hm

Bemo joined the vc I'm in and this is stressful lmao

23:11

He could be plague

WAHAHAHA

I'm unsure if he would miss that sort of info on the initial message from ts

hm

23:11

it is mentioned in the medium description

23:11

which everyone gets from the bot

23:11

in their sc

23:11

sus

23:12

During each night the Medium has access to a second secret channel, where they can ask a question, once day starts the channel is locked, and a Yes/No poll is created.

23:12

cant miss it

23:12

its even capitalised

If he was that role

23:13

He'd even get a message with more detail

23:13

He could also have pretended to not know as a medium (edited)

23:13

But like I just don't know at that point

23:14

That's big brain 4d chess

checking him as medium wouldnt do much

23:14

if he's medium it confirms our suspicions

23:14

if he isn't, it wouldn't give a lot of info

Pretty much any role that isn't what they claim is plague

23:15

And when we got one, the other plague is going down with them

hm

23:16

so you think checking bemo as medium and him not being medium means he's plague?

Why would he claim that otherwise?

23:17

Plague doctor is dead

23:17

We know who the hags are

23:17

And all the wolves are here

hm

As a citizen, claiming medium would be kind of weird

it would

23:17

yknow

Especially when I'm not suspected

yeah

23:17

not yet

Or I wasn't

they know you're fakeclaiming

23:18

they just havent put you on the spot yet

I think they haven't told bemo yet

so let's check bemo?

Our options are the ones that may be cits

23:18

Or bemo

23:18

hmmmmmm

yeah

23:18

thing is

23:19

if bemo isn't medium, one of the others is (edited)

23:19

and we can't use the "check for cit, if not, theyre plague" trick

23:19

because one of them is medium

Yeah

23:22

hmm

23:23

I don't know if my suspicion on bemo is based enough to change our course of action

based

23:23

i think it is weird behaviour

based

about the medium message thing

"why are you checking bemo?" "based"

wait so @Supreme Sorcerer Suso who are you checking

No one yet

23:32

Because I'm not sure

fair

If you have a hunch

23:33

Then I can go for it

i really dont

23:33

i have a feeling dennis might be plague

23:33

but idk

Ye i get that too

Dennis claimed cit, right?

yes

think so ye

I can check that

23:35

Seems like it has more of a chance to reveal something than checking bemo

23:35

It would be useful if arch still trusted me

yeah

epsn

If dennis is false let me know and I'll confront him

what

23:38

wait why

Because I'm dead soon anyway and I recon he is plage, so I'll give him some town that spread to infect

hm

23:38

are you sure?

23:39

what if arch goes for suso instead of you?

23:39

hm

23:39

weird message arch

If I come across as more active and trying to get more intell I'll appear more as a threat, and if he is plague a little cooperation won't heart

Vera, Druid of the Spring

what if arch goes for suso instead of you?

Yeah, take this into account

23:40

I may be deader than you

yeah

23:40

we can check dennis for cit

23:41

and if he isn't, leave it at that

23:41

arch is the priority here

I'll check dennis for cit

Ok

yup

I think knowing if he's plague would be very useful

23:41

If he's cit, it's something at least

it is ye

23:42

and whoever gets lynched/revealed tomorrow can then contact dennis

23:42

(if hes plague)

Ok

guys i just had a thought

23:48

what if arch is infected and hasnt told anyone

23:48

and because he's town lead, he knows he'll die

23:48

which means we will waste a kill...

Dennis

23:50

Not a citizen

23:50

Gottem

yess

23:50

plagueist

Btw

23:51

I have told Risabu

23:51

~~That I'll leave the word "dinner" in my journal for someone to tell him specifically if I die~~ nope. (edited)

1

1

1

23:51

You don't need to use this

nice

But it could be useful so I'm doing it just in case, no harm in it

fair

23:52

better to prepare something than nothing

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Pinned a message.

journal code

In case they are not plague

ye

Then you can get them to believe you that Arch is bad

man this is getting weird

Could Risabu be the other plague because of the town vote?

23:54

hm

makes sense to me honestly

Maybe it was just random

a small mistake that now outs them

Be can't be certain rn

00:00

So they think they know every town member now

00:00

Do they really know?

00:00

Or do they have plague infiltrated?

im not sure

00:00

they cant know all cits for sure right?

Well

00:00

They have a hunter

00:01

They can't check for plague with that tho

exactly

00:01

they might have filtered out the wolves

00:01

they might even be bluffing (edited)

I don't think they can possibly have evidence on Sharl

00:02

Other than hunter checks

exactly

00:02

im pretty sure they dont have the whole of town together actually

Also, Arch is def targetting me or Kruthers

00:03

If they are not going to say it publicly

yeah

00:03

but we gotta get them out of the way

ye

whoever is being targeted will be contact for the plague team

What's the plan with contacting plague?

00:04

Can we really get anything from them?

to see if they wanna vote with us

hmm

get them to fuck with town

00:04

like spill the town roles if neccesary

00:04

hooker etc

We could totally avoid a lynch

00:04

But that'd get us killed, right?

00:04

We're not at the point where we can overwhelm town

hm

00:05

we cant yet

Hags could decide to side with wolves... but that's not likely

yeah

00:05

hags are so uncooperative

00:05

they all feel incredibly townsided

00:05

for no reason

It's hard for them to win with town

00:06

Having you in there

yeah

They should probably have figured out there's a wolf in there by now

00:06

Plague would be unlikely

00:06

And town wouldn't claim hag at this point

and ive been telling them "theres a wolf, because only the hag claims know that wyatt was witch and got killed n1"

00:07

and the rest of the hags agree that thats logical

00:07

and they acknowledge that its no problem for a wolf to be in hag chat

00:07

ik snap alleen neit waarom ze dan met town willen werken

00:07

w

00:07

why

00:07

why did i write that in dutch

lmao

i dont get why they wanna work with town

They probably all think we're losing

00:08

Which to be fair, we kind of are

we kinda are

00:08

yes

00:09

so uh

00:09

epsn

00:09

we gotta get some good kills in because we will be dying daily (edited)

00:09

probably

Double lynch is terrible for us rn, is it not?

00:10

Btw, I don't think Risabu is plague

it is horrible for us

Thinking about it, it doesn't make any sense

00:11

Because my reasoning for why Arch could be bad makes no sense if they are plague

00:11

Because I'm claiming Arch is plague

00:11

And yet they have asked me for more information

hm

00:11

what even

Which would be pointless to do as plague and they wouldn't waste their time, right?

i guess its just to fuck around

Unless the reason is exactly to make me think this

yeah it might be that

00:12

just to fuck with you

Right now it seems like either Risabu, Anna, or Quantum are plague

00:31

The other ones are cit

00:31

And the rest of the role list sounds about right

and dennis

00:31

allright

1/3 chance of having it all

what about the bemo medium thingy?

He may be a dummy

00:31

It happens to the best of us

fair

No one has claimed medium

00:31

And we know medium can't be dead

medium is an easy claim

00:32

surprising nobody has fakeclaimed it

I'm going to sleep, but I just remembered a small detail

i should also sleep

Ethan didn't get the time to cure anyone, so every morning from now on someone will die from the plague

lets hope its not us

Hopefully

sleeping time

sleeping time

@Vera, Druid of the Spring can we get Matt to double lynch and then resign from Mayor to fuck over town?

Arch asked me to Target Meuh

07:37

lol

Quantum has to be Pleague team

07:51

can someone who is doomed somehow get the info to Quantum to poison Meuh

Playing the game with arch currently, still pretending to be witch so they don't know we know

Sharl Imposbl, the Trickster

@Vera, Druid of the Spring can we get Matt to double lynch and then resign from Mayor to fuck over town?

we lose from double lynch

why we get an extra kill (if we have the hags on board)

the hags arent onboard

10:58

they wanna abstain or not vote at all unless its a hag for election

ahh welp

10:59

can we still get Matt to resign though

why

11:00

idk how to ask him without seeming weird

11:00

her*

Vera, Druid of the Spring

why

to waste a town election and not get a reporter again

11:01

just running through ideas

11:01

not saying we have to do something

11:01

just discussing ideas and weighing pros and cons

fair

If it's revealed I'm a wolf I can try to convince the hags that the only way for them to win is with wolves

11:46

Worth a try (edited)

what others options do we have?

They we hope they don't figure out vera is the false hag and accidentally check or kill one of the others, untill then just cause distrust betweens the citizens and try and draw towns focus onto plague

i honestly believe they think im hag

Good

11:59

Then as long as you live until late game we can just be cannon fodder

yea

i guess so

11:59

not the best outcome but its what we can work with

also, I need Luffy to target me

12:00

and hope he dies other than by lynch (edited)

Well that's me dead, and Anna must be citizen who got infected

Sorcerer Kreh'Sath Uhr

Well that's me dead, and Anna must be citizen who got infected

????

12:01

you got infected?

12:01

when?

no

oh ok nvm

No, jayanna died, and we did not kill them

kruthers is dead cuz he's revealed as direwolf

12:01

jayanna die from plague

WELP

kruthers go talk to plague

go talk to Quantum

I'm talking to dennis

12:02

I just said hi plague to him

tell someone Meuh is huntsman

Do you recon the hooker is sleeping with the hags?

very likely

might be

12:08

if he's smart

if hooker infects hag, then do both plague and town wrong hags?

Because I could always give plague the name so they could infect them or I could give them the name or a random town we want gone

Sharl Imposbl, the Trickster

if hooker infects hag, then do both plague and town wrong hags?

just plague

Sorcerer Kreh'Sath Uhr

Because I could always give plague the name so they could infect them or I could give them the name or a random town we want gone

go for it

12:10

did dennis answer btw?

what was our psychic check last night?

Vera, Druid of the Spring

did dennis answer btw?

What do you want me to find out

who was infected

Sorcerer Kreh'Sath Uhr

Role List | Key: ~~Dead~~ Likely/ Guess Confirmed Town | 11 Mage/Citizen x3 - harperette, ~~Jayanna~~ ??? Huntress x2 - ~~Jay~~, Luffy Hooker x1 - enshano Witch x1 - ~~Wyatt~~ Huntsman x1 - Meuh Medium x1 - Bemo Ranger x1 - Arch Journalist x1 - Stein Werewolves | 6 Direwolf x2 - kruthers (witch), Vera (Hag) Scared Wolf x1 - Sharl Psychic Wolf x1 - Suso (Journalist) Saboteur Wolf x1 - ~~Swurtle~~ Clairvoyant Fox 1 - Leilaboo Solo - Plague | 2 - dennis Plague Bearer x1 - ??? Plague Carrier x1 - ??? Unaligned | 4 Hag x3 - Turtle (cautious), Hexa (cautious), Mat Plague Doctor x1 - ~~Ethan~~ Uknowns Quantum, Risabu (edited)

ok, someone needs to make a copy of this to maintain in this chat

I'll post a version of it later when I'm home

kruthers can you put it between ```

So you can copy the formatting and sicj5

yup

Vera, Druid of the Spring

kruthers can you put it between ```

was gonna ask the same

12:14

thanks

Ye I planned on it

seems like hag reporter does better this time btw

also, I can become cannon fodder once Luffy is dead

if luffy doesnt kill you

12:15

ultimately we want luffy lynched to avoid attack

yea

he's definitely got a better target now

hmmmm

nobody cced huntress

????

so i assume hes buddy buddy with arch

12:16

oh

I claimed huntress to Arch

12:16

and Arch asked me to target Meuh

did arch seem to trust you

12:17

oh

12:17

hm

12:17

idk then

yea

but luffy lynch is best cuz you can keep up the huntress claim

true

kruthers will die tonight and i think more people will be infected from now on

12:18

so it really count who we wanna kill

Sharl Imposbl, the Trickster

what was our psychic check last night?

and this?

Tomorrow you may be able to convince town to lynch the plague carrier claiming they are the bearer then the bearer to by 2 days

Sharl Imposbl, the Trickster

and this?

dennis as cit ->

12:19

which means hes gotta be plague

Ok so what if we get Kruthers to out plague names in public to buy us 2 days considering they can't kill us at night

interesting

12:22

if that works

12:22

definitely goo

12:22

good

what would happen and how could it affect us

12:22

esp what's the worst case scenario

Dennis is claiming infection of meuh failed

how

so meuh was already infected

12:23

cuz meuh cant have been doctor, that was ethan

so we'll have to manually yeet Meuh tonight

Are we 100% ok n Ethan

12:26

When did we check meuh?

cf did

12:27

meuh is huntsman

Our CF may have been infected depending when meuh was infected, chances are they were infected night 1, they must have checked jayanna

12:30

Did suso check stien or Leila to confirm them?

leila did

12:31

oh uh

12:31

wait wdym

Don't worry we should be fine

allright

who am I checking today?

I would guess one of these 2 or harp maybe? Quantum, Risabu

have until end of day so I'll wait

I'm pretty sure Quantum is the other plague person

13:05

so Risabu better in case you are infected

Oh I have an idea to buy me a day

which is?

Meuh is infected and will die at the end of the night unless we convince them to lynch the plague carrier and tell them they are the bearer

13:08

It would of cause depend on how much they want to live for

yea

13:13

issue is Meuh can infect enough of us before dying

hm

13:18

id say try it?

13:19

see how others react?

ok so if leila is indeed infected, best would be to check Risabu Quantum seems very plague like

13:24

very anti Arch

13:24

in our cc

13:25

Harp also works ig?

so leila checks risabu

yep

goddammit Turtle

yeah none of the other hags agree with turtles decision

14:57

we're all blaming turtle and we're mad

get turtle lynched?

no

14:57

we wont kill a member of the coven for such a reason

14:57

plus people will know turtle isnt the impostor

nono as in we try and push a turtle lynch from outside and hags are now on our side?

14:58

or is that a bad plan

hm

14:58

they know the hags

14:58

and then they know which one is fake

14:58

well

14:58

they have a smaller group to choose from

14:58

the hags may be on our side but we'll get town against us AND the hags

14:59

we have no vicious hag, hags cant kill

dammit

btw

15:10

do they know you are the non hag?

the hags? no

good

mat and hexa dont care

phew

turtle is the little bitch here

15:11

sorry

15:11

im just so fucking mad at turtle for doing this rn

ikr

15:11

lmao

15:11

easy win was in the bag for hags anyways

hm

15:22

mat wants the wolf hag to claim

15:22

im tempted tbh

15:22

but idk

15:22

i dont trust turtle

15:22

at all

15:22

he plays like town

yeah

15:23

don't claim

15:23

they'll speed end the game

15:23

if they want to

Ye don't claim, turtle will sell you out

yeah

15:23

fucking turtle

15:23

he's the 3rd hag but i think he thinks he's town

Ok they are choosing to not to go with plague lynch, distrust it is

@Vera, Druid of the Spring please point out that a wolf is giving everyone correct umbers and Luffy seems to be waffling in town square

wdym

Luffy does not want me to be correct because they then know they have lost

lmao

Luffy math is all over the place with phases and possible number of infected

Let them have it, it will cause more trust issues

yeah

15:31

lets try to get luffy lynched tomorrow?

If plauge does pose a threat with the current plan hags should get infected allowing us to lynch plague

meuh killed tonight

Meuh will die to infection tonight

you sure?

No need to kill them

are you sure dennis isnt lying

That is the only risk

allright

15:32

we might have to take that

If he is, out them and they can be lynched

allright

15:33

but

15:33

uh

15:33

lynching luffy is more of a priority

15:33

he's got common sense

15:33

and he's huntress

Yes

15:36

So who is getting checked tonight?

leila is currently checking risabu

15:37

i guess we'll have to see?

15:38

we still have a few cits and plagues to figure out

Ye because will should have a fully confirmed town list at the end of the phase

we're almost there ye

As long as the medium and hooker are correct we will have the final citizens confirmed today

yup

15:39

plus a report of what jayanna was

15:39

cuz that's one of our cit/plagues unknowns

Well we can be sure jay was town, plague killed them, it can't kill it's own

oh true

15:40

lmao

15:40

so the last to check is quantum

15:40

if risa is plague, quantum is cit

15:40

if risa isn't plague, quantum is

Yep let's hope we see which one is plague so we get the role of the plague, because that will confirm everything

yea

They think the false hag is solo lol

good

idt that matters

let them think that

we just need a favourable lynch and reporter

hexa is hag, they'll share the report truthfully

hmm ok and does it help us?

it doesnt show anything we or town doesnt know yet

16:26

2 wolves dead

16:26

1 ua dead

16:26

rest is town

hm ok

My aim right now is to cause distrust about towns decision not to cause them to distrust eachother

good good

@Leilabra Cadabra I say you investigate risabu, my money is on them being on plague

^

yeah thats who i currently have it on

good

LOL I was about to say they would have reviled it because I claimed the role of a dead but now they think I'm a journal claim

16:33

I'm just going to stay quite I did the damage needed

nice

16:35

im feeling a little more hopeful but idk

Quick thing how sure are we of bemo?

its susos supicion but thats about it

16:39

fits well into the role list tho

Hi, I've been out for the entire morning

16:39

I'm assuming I'm dead by now

youre not!

The amount of pings I have is menacing

kruthers is

Just encase maybe dennis is that and bemo is the plague

Damn

16:40

He was my favourite panda as well

Supreme Sorcerer Suso

The amount of pings I have is menacing

ah yes, thats about a normal ww night yknow

Supreme Sorcerer Suso

He was my favourite panda as well

Don't worry I'm not going down without causing war in town, even though I'm 100% pack

Sharl Imposbl, the Trickster

what was our psychic check last night?

Dennis not being citizen

16:46

Single lynch today, right?

Hey suso message from Vera "check the hags" /s

jhkglgjkljgd

Supreme Sorcerer Suso

Single lynch today, right?

yup

Vera, Druid of the Spring

jhkglgjkljgd

You asked for it

i had to

huh

gotta keep up the hag fakeclaim

16:47

dw about it suso

I know lol

I don't get it but I'm not worrying about it

they want pw to check hags to prove who's the false hag

16:47

but we're not gonna do that

Has someone made public I'm lying?

16:47

Because quite a few people know

16:47

And I don't know what to claim at this point

Yes they were arguing over it lol

uh they tried but it was dismissed

16:48

easy to read over

Supreme Sorcerer Suso

And I don't know what to claim at this point

Nothing just keep a very low profile

Either Risabu or Quantum is the other plague then

yeah

16:48

leila is checking risabu

Got "u lied to me ):"

16:48

From risabu

lmaoo

Vera, Druid of the Spring

leila is checking risabu

epic

Dennis soft claimed bearer, not explicitly but suggested at it

figures

Risabu says that they think town lost and is plague vs us

16:50

Interesting

16:50

Town is probably riddled with infected

16:50

So I guess it would make sense to think that

16:51

But like we are also likely infected

16:51

I have checked a lot of people and so has leila

16:51

And Vera attacked a lot

hm

I'm making town feel small and infected they can easily win but don't have the structure, we can lynch Luffy tomorrow hopefully and kill Dennis soon after

How can we possibly lynch luffy?

town might fall down from infection tomorrow

16:53

and we can get a luffy lynch in

oke

16:54

Risabu just asked me whether I'm the plague doctor

16:54

Which is the funniest shit

lmao

16:54

dont claim it tho

16:54

you'll get infected

I didn't answer

16:56

Hey @Sorcerer Kreh'Sath Uhr, have you tried to talk with the hags?

16:56

May be a good chance

16:56

It is quite likely their only chance to win is with us

True, I'll create a cc with them all later

So telling them that is a good idea and vera can't

Ill do it in like half an hour, just leaving work

allright

epic

16:58

Essentially the argument is that town is losing to infection

16:58

And the infection is super likely to wrong hags accidentally

16:58

Also that they can't find which of the 4 is a wolf

16:58

But I don't know if we should mention that directly

17:02

Just had the realization

17:02

That if we get hags to straight up team with us now

17:02

We just win

17:02

We can even stop kruthers from getting lynched

17:03

Town + plague is 8 votes

17:03

Wolves + hags is 9

ayo

17:03

hm

17:03

how would we do that

17:03

we need to have plague with us 100%

Do we?

17:03

Oh

17:04

Because that reveals us

17:04

If we kill the 2 plague fast enough, the infection stops tho, right?

17:05

And today we will know who they are

yeah

So we can switch to lynch dennis today

17:05

IF we convince hags

hm

And kill the other plague

17:05

Then just win

dennis is plague right

Yeah

17:05

He has to be

i think it might be good of kruthers tries first?

You can check the logic, but I don't find a good explanation for him being anything else (edited)

to convince the other hags too

Kruthers should explain that we win on votes

17:06

If we coordinate

17:06

And that if they help us, we 100% win together

17:06

I think I'm calculating this right

17:06

Some of us may die but we still win

17:07

Just one town dying from plague last night tipped the balance

yeah

17:07

exactly

If hags aren't weird for some reason we should be good

turtle is

They can't argue with maths

17:16

Or at least it's not in their best interest

17:16

Hopefully they know that

@Sorcerer Kreh'Sath Uhr as soon as you can, contact the hags

17:16

they seem in for a bit of fucking around maybe (edited)

If we get control of the votes this will be so funny

17:18

We can just go full unhinged

oh fuck yeah

what's even happening in town square lmao

17:26

is turtle just causing havoc for fun now

i have no idea

17:27

i think some of us have gone mad

epic

kruthers that chat is hilarious

What has happened?

17:36

Chatting with the hags?

he's messaged all the hags ye

Ye

What do they say?

well they started by complaining about the cc name

hmm

17:37

I assume it's an interesting name then

i do so much talking its gonna be just kruthers and i having a nice conversation

17:38

should i just out?

Supreme Sorcerer Suso

I assume it's an interesting name then

well i named it

❤️Hags first

Vera, Druid of the Spring

should i just out?

not yet

allright

Vera, Druid of the Spring

should i just out?

no they may turn

wait until tomorrows phase at least

One of our strongest weapons is that they can't win without us

17:38

Because they can't tell who of them is with us

17:39

Just make sure to mention that, that we would have majority if we team and can snipe the plague

17:39

And that otherwise plague wins

yes

@Thomas, Warlock from Sirdia If this night someone would die from the infection but we use our pack attack to kill the last plague team, do they still die?

17:40

Since the manual says everyone gets cured

17:40

If the infection death is ordered after the attack, I guess the death would be cancelled(?

attacks happen before deaths but idk if an infection death would be stopped in the last phase

I mean, it says If no members of the plague team remain all players are no longer contaminated, however they are not informed about this.

17:42

It would make sense for it to affect the last phase, since otherwise they already wouldn't know that they are infected

17:43

So it wouldn't make sense to warn them anyways

I have a feeling we could all suddenly die by tomorrow night

17:44

but lets hope not ig

thats why we wanna get plague out of the way asap

If the rule works like this, we don't

17:44

Because we lynch + kill

yea

Both of the plague members

hmm yea

Lynch the plague tomorrow then? and just keep luffy around then?

Nah, today

we just need to hope enough town ppl die of plague by tonight

The plan is to switch with hags

17:45

They have the extra vote

17:45

So we win by one

Sharl Imposbl, the Trickster

we just need to hope enough town ppl die of plague by tonight

cant happen if plague dies today

And then kill the other plague this night (it will be confirmed by leila)

❤️Hags

Then we sweep

17:45

I think this is 100% if the hags go with us

We need to know if killing the bearer in the same phase as the infection kills stops the infection though

Yeah

yup

Otherwise it only works if less than 3 of us die from it

17:47

Since we're getting rid of 2 enemy votes

yea

17:47

yea

Sorcerer Kreh'Sath Uhr

We need to know if killing the bearer in the same phase as the infection kills stops the infection though

if bearer dies, then the other person becomes bearer right

I don't think 3 of us would die today tbh

17:47

But just to be sure

I think myself and vera should be fine

Not but we need bearer and carrier to die

17:48

so we kill one tonight lynch the other tomorrow?

Nono

17:48

We lynch today

no

We can if hags go with us

17:48

We already have the majority

too risky

17:48

and I won't be awake

Alive Players | Total: 16

- Vera but actually a frog (@Vera, Druid of the Spring)

- Captain Luffy (@The Captain of Wizardry)

- Leilaboo (@Leilabra Cadabra)

‍❤️‍

‍

- harperette (@Harp the Spellbinder) gibagul

gibagul

- Suso (@Supreme Sorcerer Suso)

‍

- MatMeistress (@Mat Crowsbane)

- Sharl Eclair (@Sharl Imposbl, the Trickster) tortoise

tortoise

- Mr. Turtle (@Kauzor, Summoner of Turtles)

- Quantum (@Quantowmancer)

- kruthers (@Sorcerer Kreh'Sath Uhr)

- CompuKat (@The Sorceress' Cat)

- Dennis (@Den, The Seer from Featsbitriks)

- Risabu (@Risabu Runewyck) pensivegayblob

pensivegayblob

- Enshano (@Enchanto the Enchanter) uglysmile

uglysmile

- Meuh (@Sorceress Meuh)

- Bemo (@Bemocus Pocus) (edited)

plague wont vote with us to kill plague

So, let me explain why I think this works

we don't have numbers either

Supreme Sorcerer Suso

So, let me explain why I think this works

its a 50 50, it wont work

17:49

town and plague will vote against us and tie it

I sggest we kill luffy tonight and hope he's targetting plague?

He wont, he will be targeting suso or you

We would have: Vera, Leila, Suso, Mat (x2), Sharl, Turtle, Kruthers, Hexa - 9 Them: Luffy, Harp, Quantum, Dennis, Risabu, Enshano, Meuh, Bemo - 8

17:50

We win already

17:50

Mat has double vote

Sorcerer Kreh'Sath Uhr

He wont, he will be targeting suso or you

if he targets me, its fine

Supreme Sorcerer Suso

We would have: Vera, Leila, Suso, Mat (x2), Sharl, Turtle, Kruthers, Hexa - 9 Them: Luffy, Harp, Quantum, Dennis, Risabu, Enshano, Meuh, Bemo - 8

you cant count, its 8 not 9 for us

17:51

mayor does not get double votes until less then 15

17:51

we are at 16

Oh, fuck

Mayor | Elected Basics The Mayor leads the town. They have the privilege of being able to post in #story_time and receive an extra vote in polls. When there are more than 15 living players, the Mayor chooses each night whether the top one or two players being voted on will be exiled during the next day. When there are 15 or less living players, the Mayor receives an extra vote in polls. Details The Mayor can be a powerful role to help either the innocent team or the werewolves team, but they tend to garner a lot of attention and may be killed quickly. If the Mayor misuses their ability to post in #story_time, they may be demoted or killed at the discretion of the Game Masters. If there is no mayor, the exile vote always only kills the top voted player. The Mayor's extra vote cannot be nullified, stolen or removed under any circumstances.

I misread the rules then

yeah

17:51

it'd be a tie

dont worry

17:52

so i have to die this phase

17:52

but you need to kill one of them at nigh then lynch the other one

If we lose kruthers today, I'm not sure we can pull this off

you'd die tho

if we want to risk a tie we can

it will give us a chance to live longer

but turtle doesn't seem to be on board with anything

we kill pb at night and we lynch the other plague

Yeah

is there any hope we can get luffy to target plague?

ye thats the issue, they have no reason to realy vote with us

I guess we have to wait till tomorrow

17:53

If we lose vera or me to plague we're done tho

Vera, Druid of the Spring

is there any hope we can get luffy to target plague?

i cant but one of you may be able to trie

Unless like every town dies

17:54

If Anna was infected in the first night

17:54

Then Wyatt couldn't have been

17:54

So I think I'm safe

17:54

Same goes for vera

17:54

Or wait

i think youre right about that

Hmm

none of us target jayanna right?

Not me

so we should be safe

This night, do we die from n1 contagion?

17:55

Or n2?

n2

This is n4

17:56

Ok then we need to check again

yeah

17:56

we might be fucked when night starts but

I checked leila on n2

I feel Meuh could have checked me

And you killed jay

need to make Luffy to target me or plague

That's way likelier to have gotten us infected

Night actions: - Hooker Enshano - Targets: ~~- Witch Wyatt - PoL, PoD~~ - Huntsman Meuh - Checked: Arch, Sharl - Psy Wolf Suso - Checked: Wyatt N1, Leila N2 ~~- Sab Wolf Swurt - Sabotaged: Vera N1~~ - CF Leila - Checked: Stein Journalist N1, Jay Huntress N2, Meuh Huntsman N3 - Wolves - N1 Vera - Wyatt, N2 Vera - Jay, N3 Kruthers - Arch - PB Dennis - Rodents: N1 Jayanna - Hags - PH: Wyatt N1 - CH: - CH: Turtle N3 ~~- PD Ethan - ???~~ (edited)

Hmmm

Other actions: ~~- Huntress 1 Jay - Targets: Ethan~~ - Huntress 2 Luffy - Targets: Turtle N3 ~~- Ranger Arch - Targets: Kruthers~~ ~~- Journalist Stein - Final Target: ?~~ (edited)

We don't have enough info

i started this but didnt fill it out

But we can try

lets try

17:57

just list as much info about targetting as possible

Rodent is end night, yeah?

17:58

After or before attacks?

i assume before but @Thomas, Warlock from Sirdia might know better

Would we know if hags were infected?

yes

So they are totally not

wronging is publically announced

18:00

yeah

18:00

we can say with certainty that hags are not wronged

That's very good

18:01

Because the chances of someone on the opposing side dying from infection are way more than us I think

yea

18:01

think so too

We know meuh didn't check me

18:02

Because they fell for the journal thing

18:02

And after that they knew

yeah

18:02

meuh checked sharl at some point, they're way too on-the-nose about sharl being wolf

**__Role List__ | Key:** ~~Dead~~ *Likely/ Guess* **Confirmed** __Town | 11__ Mage/Citizen x3 - harperette, ~~Jayanna~~ ??? Huntress x2 - ~~**Jay**~~, Luffy Hooker x1 - enshano Witch x1 - ~~**Wyatt**~~ Huntsman x1 - **Meuh** Medium x1 - Bemo Ranger x1 - ~~*Arch**~~ Journalist x1 - **Stein** __Werewolves | 6__ Direwolf x2 - **kruthers**, Vera (Hag) Scared Wolf x1 - **Sharl** Psychic Wolf x1 - **Suso** (Journalist) Saboteur Wolf x1 - **~~Swurtle~~** Clairvoyant Fox 1 - **Leilaboo** __Solo - Plague | 2__ Plague Bearer x1 - dennis Plague Carrier x1 - ??? __Unaligned | 4__ Hag x3 - Turtle (cautious), Hexa (cautious), Mat Plague Doctor x1 - ~~Ethan~~ __Uknowns__ Quantum, Risabu

hooker is a mystery

18:03

Meuh used a check on Arch

18:03

That's why I guessed at her being huntsman

so i'll list 2 huntsman checks as arch and sharl

Infected Jayanna (N1, Plague) Meuh (N2, Check, Plague Failed) Arch (N3)

18:08

what we also need to know is if infection happens before i attack

okay

18:08

the arch one is good because you attacked arch

18:08

meuh ha sinfected leila then probably

18:08

meuh probably checked jayanna n1

18:08

hm

18:08

thinky

18:09

or n2 actually

Also right now, not all of town has voted on me

yea

How do we know meuh is infected?

18:09

We're just going with it being very likely?

so if they dont vote we can snipe

Supreme Sorcerer Suso

We're just going with it being very likely?

Plague bearer claimed it

Oh

18:09

Dennis told you?

18:09

Why would he?

but who knows how trustfull that info is

yeah im not sure why he would tell you

18:10

i think he's lost all hope maybe?

Vera, Druid of the Spring

i think he's lost all hope maybe?

It's not clear at all who's winning

18:10

We probably have the upper hand

18:10

But like even town could win

we do, i think

Supreme Sorcerer Suso

@Thomas, Warlock from Sirdia If this night someone would die from the infection but we use our pack attack to kill the last plague team, do they still die?

yes, the attack is an end night effect as is the plague death, the attack's kill is an end night consequence which happens after

Right we have to got for it then

Sadness

tie or kill, we have no option

yup

18:14

lets try it

I think tie isn't good

18:15

Waiting for tomorrow gives us more than 50% chance I believe

Vera, Druid of the Spring

i assume before but @Thomas, Warlock from Sirdia might know better

before. This is weird behaivor that I will PR after the game

Because both teams lose a vote

18:15

And then we gain the extra one from mayor

okay so we all switch to who?

Ok so im infected

Also they are likelier to die from plague than us

Vera, Druid of the Spring

okay so we all switch to who?

You mean today?

18:16

Isn't tie worse from what we're calculating?

are we not gonna do it today?

18:16

true

18:16

okay so we dont switch

Tie is 50% and even then it's not certain

i wasnt paying attention

18:16

so no switch

Tomorrow maybe we have like 60%

Ok so i will die

We need to pass on all the information we want to to hags while you're alive

18:17

Essentially, that we're switching tomorrow (edited)

18:17

And we have to make them confident that this wins

18:18

Or at least that otherwise they lose

Sorcerer Kreh'Sath Uhr

Ok so i will die

yeah you get lynched

@Vera, Druid of the Spring luffy is convinced either you or turtle is the hag

fuck

The fake hag?

18:20

Or the real one?

I FUCKED UP=

18:20

I SLIPPED

18:20

FUCK

like they know one of them is the false one

klruthers

18:20

kruthesrs

18:20

i fucked up

i saw...

Something happened?

can you just like

18:20

shit shit shit

18:21

i uh

18:21

typed something i wanted to type here

Oh no

but in the hag cc with kruthers

oh nonono

so its not too bad

18:21

it couldve been worse

What was it?

should i still try to get luffy to target pb so we can kill luffy?

oh god

i deleted it but then realised the bot doesnt like deleted messages

18:22

and ts sent it again

fuck

so uh

that is very bad then

i guess hags will know im the fake hag now

We need to absolutely convince them they need to work with us now

we gotta

18:22

theres no other way

The argument switches from them not being able to tell you apart

i'll see what they have to say about it tho

To them not being able to win unless we take care of plague with night kills

huh

18:23

hexa has the weirdest response

18:23

if you know who pb is maybe

Hexa just goes "yeah, kill luffy"

basically yes

18:23

maybe they're thinking im trying to get pb killed

18:23

the hags seem very anti-pb

18:23

i might not have fucked up as bad but goddamn

Plague bearer, right?

ye

I'm still waiting on whoever on town knows confirmed that I'm a fake to just call me out on it (edited)

18:25

They kind of forgot

Does spread the plague tho, prolly why you deleted it

18:25

hexa again

Does it?

18:25

It doesn't, right?

idk what hexa is on about but yes

confusion

18:26

chaos, even

chaos indeed

18:26

at least its the hag chat i slipped in and not something like townsquare

18:26

hag chat is probably the best chat to slip in but goddamn

I think they still would need to work with us if they find you out

18:27

But they could get angry

Luffy will stop trusting them if they know the fake

i dont know what the hags will do

18:27

thats the scary thing

Luffy doesn't need to know tho

hexa seems to take it well

18:27

hags wouldnt care tho

Supreme Sorcerer Suso

Luffy doesn't need to know tho

no they dont

they wanted the wolf hag to out for a while now

18:28

theyre still unwronged so everything should be fine

This is how luffy things they will play

but if we dont then theyd probably rather kill everyone else than find the fake

hmm

which is weird

18:28

not very unaligned of luffy

Is luffy speaking to you, kruthers?

18:29

Weren't they the huntress?

i have had a cc with them for a bit

I guess they have an interest in getting info about the plague

18:35

Dennis said that they couldn't infect meuh on N2 because she was already infected, right?

18:35

The only way she could have been was by checking anna that same night

18:36

Since check is immediate

thatd be the only way for ingection to be stopped ye

18:36

yeah

18:36

so meuh will die tonight for sure

Well, if dennis isn't lying

if not, dennis is lying

18:36

ye

Pretty sure leila and I are safe

good good

18:37

it also means that dennis has 1 rodent left tho

Should i give the name of the PB out?

hm

18:38

ye just do it, dont see a reason why not

Should we already tell them to switch lynch to Dennis tomorrow?

18:40

This night Meuh will die if dennis isn't lying

18:41

And Leila, Sharl, and I are safe for sure if that's the case

18:41

Still calculating stuff

yeah, hags would probably want dennis dead

We could possibly even get them to lynch dennis without needing to out ourselves

maybe?

Since cits also want plague gone

ye

Leila will die at the end of N5 if plague isn't gone by then

18:50

I think

18:51

Hmm

18:51

I'm not sure about the rule

18:52

Leila likely got infected during D2

18:53

So it's

D2 N3 D3 N4 D4 N5 1 1 2 2 3 3(dead)

or

D2 N3 D3 N4 D4 N5 1 2 3 3(dead)

18:54

The first one takes the same amount of time as Anna

18:54

The second one less

18:54

But the infection happened during the day so idk

Supreme Sorcerer Suso

Leila likely got infected during D2

a contamination during D2 means death in N4. You get informed once the second night after infection starts and die at the end of it. N1/D1=>N3, N2/D2=>N4, N3/D3=>N5, N4/D4=>N6, etc

Welp

19:04

Then I am afraid both Kruthers and Leila die in this scenario

19:05

Tomorrow only Dennis and Meuh would be dead on the other side

im trying to get the hags to get town on board with the PB lynch

19:06

They see PB as their biggest threat

Sounds about right

19:10

I think kruthers isn't infected but that doesn't really matter

19:10

Because Meuh would have had to check arch on n1 and anna on n2

19:11

and sharl on n3?

19:13

So this night we need to kill whoever we determine to be the other plague with leila's check

so youre trying a pb lynch today? @Sorcerer Kreh'Sath Uhr

19:14

had to triple check the chat im in aaa

we need hags to get town on board

hm

Oh

19:16

Today

19:16

Right

hm

We need only one of them to switch

well if mat can get luffy to target the other plague tonight we could get plague dead by the end of next night and a town less

19:16

but idk how to bring that to mat

With the lynch we get rid of plague this night

yeah

But idk how we manage town to cooperate

that does mean we have extra town tomorrow

19:18

with meuh alive

Bemo knows I'm lying

19:18

Should I try to convince him?

h

19:18

m

We need to kill both plague, lynching will kill 1

Yeah, the attack would get the other

19:19

And in this scenario you don't die

ye that

Leila still does tho

19:19

Because of the effect order

hm

19:19

its either we lose 1 wolf or we lose 2

If we can assure the lynch today it's better, but I don't know if we can

1 wolf and plague gone, or 2 wolves gone and plague lynched tomorrow

19:20

should i out to the hags and tell them that the odds are best with wolves because we have kills?

19:20

or something like that

19:20

we have the majority with hags right?

Its a draw this phase

hm

19:22

if we get luffy to switch its not

ye

19:22

but sharl is asleep

true

19:22

thats a big thing

19:22

we'll miss a vote

19:23

he's voting you so we cant depend on that either

Fuck

hm?

Just the Shark asleep thing

19:28

Otherwise it could totally work

well i just thought of a thing

Alas, we're unlucky

I think i will be dead this phase, and we just have to hope on the dead of at least 2 towns

if you look at all the people, luffy might switch and harp may switch

I can try something stupid that probably won't work but basically can't be bad

harp can quite easily be convinced most of the time

And that's to get Bemo and Risabu to switch

19:29

In the basis that otherwise plague 100% wins

19:29

They don't know we win if they switch

19:29

But they know plague does if they don't

19:29

So they may go with it

19:29

As long as Risabu isn't plague, of course

- Vera but actually a frog

- Leilaboo gibagul

gibagul

- Suso

‍

- MatMeistress tortoise

tortoise

- Mr. Turtle

- kruthers

- CompuKat

- Captain Luffy

‍❤️‍

‍

- harperette

- Sharl Eclair

- Quantum

- Dennis

- Risabu

pensivegayblob

- Enshano

uglysmile

- Meuh

- Bemo

19:30

luffy and harp being changable

And since they both already know I'm lying they can't do much about me really

if we get the hags to switch it'd be 9v7 on dennis

Is telling people Dennis is pb bad?

hm

Not really if they already know I'm not town, right?

they'd know you know more

I only told the hags

we gotta make him out to be the biggest threat

Yeah

exaggerate the amount of people that will die tonight a little

Yeah

and kruthers, put the plan in hag chat and i'll go along

Totally

19:32

Town people are going to die

its not a lie, town people will die

Because they were the center of the infection

19:32

Yeah but we can say it's like a lot

19:32

Between this night and next

yes yes

"According to our calculations, most of the town team will die from plague between this and the next night"

19:33

Of something like that

^

19:33

sounds good

Idk what hags would think of that

19:34

But I think I'll try it with these guys

19:34

I'm not claiming to be anything

hags want pb gone to a vote for pb is better than a vote for kruthers

Plausible deniability of me being the doctor

Ill post this:

The plan is to get as many town to vote Dennis as possible, but we need your help to achive this, Currently Town will die if they are not stopped, and they will win, no team can win with them alive, not even the hags. Dennis is a proven PB and a false citizen claim.

why the hag part btw?

19:35

hags currently can win with pb but just dont want to because its too dangerous (accidental infection)

ok removed that part, posting in hags

luffy refuses to listen

20:39

I don't think there's any hope here

Btw, someone in town hasn't voted yet

20:40

If Sharl was awake we would win

yeah

20:41

should we get pb to threaten us?

20:41

hags i mean

I made mat the cc owner, when i die someone can reach out and say "Long live the hags" to get in

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luffy says arch has wolves infected

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Pinned a message.

so im pretty sure that's at least sharl, suso and kruthers

20:43

cant be more than that

Arch wasn't infected

20:43

Wait

20:44

He got infected on purpose from meuh?

20:44

Not enough switches to do that

mightve been accidental

Nah

but i know it wont wipe out the whole wolfteam

Meuh checked him before getting infected

luffy isnt convinced dennis is pb so there might be unconfirmed town claims infected by arch

20:45

like dennis or the other plague

20:50

WAHAHAHA

20:50

luffy just claimed wyatt was plague doctor

yeah sure thing bud

20:51

Then they haven't been made aware of the reporter info still

20:51

Huh

they have

20:51

he was messing around

20:52

he did admit it was ethan

20:53

i guess we'll have to accept kruthers death

20:54

luffy is of course completely right but it was worth a try

Oh yeah

21:22

And I can cause plague to wrong the hags tonight if we want to use the check on that

21:22

I don't know if we want to tho

21:23

That way we also know if I'm infected, which I must be

you gotta be ye

21:25

arch probably targeted you so you'd be infected once he saw the reporter result

Supreme Sorcerer Suso

And I can cause plague to wrong the hags tonight if we want to use the check on that

how do you mean

If I investigate a hag

21:26

It passes the infection

interesting

Infection wrongs hags pretty sure

it does ye

21:27

depends on the cf check tho

21:27

if risbabu isnt plague we gotta know who actually is

so uh

21:56

dennis and luffy seem to think im wolf

21:56

pretty funny imo

Makes sense

21:58

Both kruthers and you have talked to them

22:00

Hmm

22:00

The dead role list can be public, right?

22:00

We can't claim fake dead wolves but hey

22:01

Ok, so Risabu is town for real

yeah

22:01

so its gotta be quantum plague

@Leilabra Cadabra Did you get an infection warn?

did you?

Nope

22:02

I couldn't have been infected to die this night

fair

I think I'll get a warn on N5

22:02

If we don't kill plague by then (edited)

are you still gonna wrong a hag by checking?

Idk

22:02

Should we?

you're doomed already, are you gonna vote on the pack?

22:03

tho k illing dennis has no effect

22:03

i also wanna get rid of luffy really really badly

I will kill the other plague

22:03

Luffy has to be targetting us now sadly

yeah

So we can't kill them

probably me

22:03

or you

22:04

or sharl

You dying ends the game for us

goddamn

22:04

yeah

I need to get quant

allright

I do the killing this night

i'll just kill dennis

Tomorrow we lynch dennis hopefully

22:04

If infection goes not badly

quantum?

?

we'll kill dennis tonight and lynch quantum?

22:04

or luffy?

Dennis is the one we have been setting up to lynch

so who do we kill?

Quant

allright

The rat doesn't matter

22:05

Someone infected rn wouldn't die before we get rid of them

22:05

And if we don't get rid of them we lose anyways

so do you kill quant then?

Yeah

allright

Also they may think Quant is cit

nice

And that may make them panick

22:06

I think they know about dennis by now

they do ye

Why did we Exclude harp from being possible plague?

22:07

There was a reason

22:07

But I don't remember

no idea tbh

Supreme Sorcerer Suso

@Leilabra Cadabra Did you get an infection warn?

what would that be like?

Idk

22:08

A message from ts

22:08

I guess

ts saying youve been infected and you'll die tonight

9H YEP

22:08

Rop

22:08

4IP

22:08

ROP

22:08

RIP

lmao

yeah we figured

22:08

sad

Sticker

That's an F but it was to be expected

22:08

That means that Dennis wasn't lying about Meuh

yup

And that my calculations are probably correct

22:09

I calculated we win

welp

But like

cough cough

Not easily

it's been a good life

we indeed do not win easily

22:09

im confident we can do it tho

22:10

once we get plague out of the way its just luffy the nuisance

22:10

and then we get to the silent town

So I have a check

yup

22:11

wrong a hag with infection and then claim i was wronged?

22:11

or would that be too obvious

Role List | Key: ~~Dead~~ Likely/ Guess Confirmed Town | 11 Mage/Citizen x3 - Harp, ~~Jayanna~~, Risabu Huntress x2 - ~~Jay~~, Luffy Hooker x1 - Enshano Witch x1 - ~~Wyatt~~ Huntsman x1 - ~~Meuh~~ Medium x1 - Bemo Ranger x1 - ~~Arch~~ Journalist x1 - ~~Stein~~ Werewolves | 6 Direwolf x2 - ~~kruthers~~, Vera (Prophetic Hag) Scared Wolf x1 - Sharl Psychic Wolf x1 - Suso (Journalist) Saboteur Wolf x1 - ~~Swurtle~~ Clairvoyant Fox 1 - ~~Leila~~ Solo - Plague | 2 Plague Bearer x1 - Dennis Plague Carrier x1 - ~~Quant~~ Unaligned | 4 Hag x3 - Turtle (Cautious), Hexa (Cautious), Mat (Prophetic) Plague Doctor x1 - ~~Ethan~~ (edited)

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lets see

22:12

it confirms jayanna too

Vera, Druid of the Spring

wrong a hag with infection and then claim i was wronged?

It could be the huntsman wronging with a check

hm

22:13

@Thomas, Warlock from Sirdia immediate wronging is immediately announced right?

yeah

and uh

22:14

it doesnt say which hag is wronged

22:14

and uh

no it says the hags as a whole are wronged

does it tell the hag that it is wronged?

no

so its only announced in storytime

but they will be informed that they get a new spell uses, however after the announcement

It would just reveal that a hag was infected by an immediate night action

no, I have to inform them that they may use their spell again (edited)

22:15

however this happens after storytime

okay thats good cuz then we can fake me getting infected instead another hag

22:15

well not really

22:15

but it wouldnt give info if you checked a hag to wrong them

You can fake not knowing

22:16

It would pressure them into getting rid of the plague

22:16

Although

so if you checked a hag, we'd be wronged and plague would be in DEEP

The spells are dangerous

yes

22:16

its just protecting and checking tho

They have 2 prophetics and 1 cautious?

so nothing much

They can check you

mat can

22:16

im the other prophetic

22:16

so i just have to convince them to check quantum

Oh ok

22:17

So 33% chance of they finding you

they say ive been found out as wolf

Ok, wait

probably huntsman

Vera, Druid of the Spring

they say ive been found out as wolf

Who says that?

22:18

Hags?

mat

22:18

luffy told her (edited)

Any thoughts on what to do?

22:18

I can refill their spells

i'll see what mat says

And we can use prophetic to check Quant

yeah

22:18

they wont have to waste it on me

22:18

im waiting for mat to respond

22:19

im gonna have to out myself in coven

22:19

lets see if i can get hags on my side

Tell me if I should run the check

im gonna see what they do

yup

hm

22:25

they wanna vote with us

22:25

so ig just check quantum for cit to make sure we're really getting plague

Should I check quantum then?

22:26

Alright, as you say

yea

Did they claim cit?

22:26

Because if they didn't I'm not sure

22:27

If they didn't, maybe we could pressure them into that

they didnt claim at all to me

22:27

refused to

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Pinned a message.

hm

22:30

The thing is there's enough uncertainty that they could not be specifically cit and not be plague

22:30

It would be super weird

22:30

But not impossible (?

hm

22:30

i'll ask the hags

Do the hags know I'm a wolf already?

22:31

I mean, it is pretty obvious

22:31

But maybe they didn't think about it

i havent told them

22:31

and i wont tell them

22:31

so which townies will die tonight?

22:31

meuh, right?

Yeah

someone else?

I only know Meuh for sure

22:32

Depending on retargets from others, could be a bit more maybe

22:32

But with meuh it's enough as long as only leila falls

22:32

Because we get rid of dennis and gain the mayor vote

id say uh

22:32

just check quantum as cit because thats all we've got left?

22:32

idk man

22:33

ive been thinking we're gonna lose and then we're gonna win and idk anymore

Yeah HJAHA

22:33

Same

so how do you like werewolves revamped so far

It's epic but I have acquired anxiety

RELATABLE

same!

Also ts

22:34

I have been reading the lore clues

22:34

I feel powerless to do anything about them

22:34

But it's interesting

quantum was trying to figure them out but idk

I have no clue what the bolded words mean tho

🤷‍♂️

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ts thought out the whole lore but didnt bother to make a wolfpack attack succes message

He just thought we are bad

I ran out of time and I've written a ton of messages so far, more than any other game, so deal with it

im dealing with it

And Suso if you think you know the answer let me know in your sc

thinking about how you have forgotten us

kq add vera

please do

22:37

im so tired from this game

22:38

im gonna need a break after this

Is the average game so deranged?

it can be horrible

Because it feels like we're playing 4d chess

it kinda depends on the what you are and what situations youve gotten yourself in

And it's probably because of the plague

the bigger the game the more anxious it can get

if you're doing well its always 4d chess

true

be glad theres no www

I WOULD CRY

N1 D1 N2 D2 N3 D3 N4 D4 N5 D5 Vera A0 0 A0 0 Luffy 0 A0 0 Leila 0 B0 0 C1 2 2 W3 XXX Harp 0 0 0 Ethan 0 C0 0 XXX Suso B0 0 B0 Mat 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Anna R1 1 2 2 W3 XXX Sharl 0 0 0 0 A1 1 2 2 W3 XXX Turtle 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Quant 0 0 Kruthers 0 0 0 0 A0 Jay 0 BC0 A0 XXX Hexa 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Risabu 0 0 Stein 0 0 0 0 XXX Enshano 0 0 Meuh C0 0 RB1 1 A2 2 W3 XXX Swurt 0 0 XXX Arch C0 D0 0 0 A0 XXX Bemo 0 0 Wyatt AB0 XXX Dennis (Plague)

last game in the wolfpack against luffy as www I was crying

wow

Me calculating the infection

22:40

(I gave up)

im literally so sad tho

22:40

i dont wanna doe

22:40

die

Thomas, Warlock from Sirdia

last game in the wolfpack against luffy as www I was crying

glad we feel the same about werewolves epsn

epsn

Leilabra Cadabra

im literally so sad tho

Hey I got yours right!

hsfjdkhfks

22:40

leila

22:40

we love you

You will die a hero Leila

22:40

uglysmile

and you are a valuable member of our team

22:40

i honestly dont think you were suspected at all, at least not openly

22:41

and if you die

if?

tell all those filthy townies to suck my wolf dick

22:41

when

22:41

sorry

22:41

i dont want you to die

22:41

stage 1 of grief

22:41

denial

getting my hopes up

22:41

smh

pff

im just in denial

22:42

the game has been hard

22:42

epsn

Should I literally just put Quant in an ultimatum?

22:42

To try to get a claim?

oh boy

I don't think whatever people think about me matters anymore

22:43

So I can just show up and tell them they are about to die

do it

22:43

we're fucked either way

22:44

they dont trust you because of the journalist claim

22:44

they basically know im wolf

Syntax error. Invalid subcommand be-sorry!

Ahh

22:44

Create

22:44

I always miss the create

and they cant do shit because they have no town killing

✅ Created #not-sorry!

Werewolves Bot B

Syntax error. Invalid subcommand be-sorry!

i think be sorry should be a command that exists

22:44

what it does? idk

22:44

just

22:44

be sorry

pfff

22:45

Got a claim

it'll be right there with the unused commands

Lmao

wow

Cit

that was fast

22:45

LMAO

Checking cit then

yup

Ts has gone insane

23:16

The puzzle has something to do with anagrams, cardinal directions (edited)

23:16

Probably the name of the towns and where they are

23:17

And some other stuff I'm missing

oh god

23:17

i expected nothing less

23:17

lets try and solve it

23:17

what do you have so far?

Gonna just copy my message from my secret chat

sure

23:17

wai

ዐጠክጎነ ፕሁ -> omnis tu ነርጎነ ቿፕ ጠዐዪጎቿፕሁዪ -> scis et morietur ክሁረረሁነ ቿነፕ ነልረሀሁነ -> nullus est saluus ጠልኗጎርልቿ ክዐክ የቿዪጠልክቿጌጎፕ -> Magicae non permanebit ፕሁ ቻልርጎነ ዐየሁነ ቿጎሁነ, -> tu facis opus eius, ክሁጠቿዪሁነ ሁክሁነ. -> numerus unus. ነርሁረ ሠሃጊልዪፕ -> Scul Wyzart ጠቿ ጎክ ጎኗክቿጠ! -> Me in ignem! ዐየዐዪፕቿፕ ሀዐነ የዪዐዘጎጌቿዪቿ -> Oporter uos prohibere. ክቿ ጠልኗጎርልቿ ጠዐዪጎ -> Ne magicae mori. ቿረጎኗቿ የዪሁዕቿክፕቿዪ -> Elige prudenter ዒሁጎል የዐፕቿነፕ ቿነነቿ -> Quia potest esse ሁረፕጎጠሁጠ ልዪጌጎፕዪጎሁጠ ፕሁሁጠ -> Ultimum arbitrium tuum a ል b ጌ c ር d ዕ e ቿ f ቻ g ኗ h ዘ i ጎ j k l ረ m ጠ n ክ o ዐ p የ q ዒ r ዪ s ነ t ፕ u ሁ v w ሠ x y ሃ z ጊ

Everyone you know will die. No one is safe. Magic won't perdure. You are doing his work, First One. I'm on fire! I must stop you. Don't let magic die. Choose wisely because it could be your last choice. The words you must heed, of those from the old, lest you all will bleed, now you must act bold, Their voices you hear, at the dusk and dawn. If you hide in fear, you will be a pawn, Where the sun rises, it does not lie there; final dusk passes, it is not the lair. -> not east or west Where it never goes by, does not rise nor set, and heights it does defy, there it is: your threat, -> South pole? "a man rag" -> anagram?? (Spseopteal! Sdtsrfiwro,) Day 2 message is written in single split lines, initials? Anagram of a place in one of the cardinal directions????? Sinluv, Quagyn and Bolo Spellbook, broken potion, arrow, patches of skin black, werewolf Crokras the Damned Wizard arrows (edited)

t

23:18

allright

It's a lot

23:18

It doesn't have any gameplay stuff really

oh my god

Another Day, Another Choice The voices from the meeting still haunt you. @Leilabra Cadabra, you're trying to decide whether to try to fit in with the wolves today, or if you should continue to use your powers of clairvoyance. But the voices won't leave you alone. "ቿረጎኗቿ የዪሁዕቿክፕቿዪ," they whisper to you, "ዒሁጎል የዐፕቿነፕ ቿነነቿ." You try to tune them out, but to no avail. Perhaps if you return to the meeting the chaos will drown them out. "ሁረፕጎጠሁጠ ልዪጌጎፕዪጎሁጠ ፕሁሁጠ," they finish for now.

23:19

i got this one too

OH

if it helps

thats from your sc

ye

allright

23:19

now im gonna double check the wolf and my sc messages

I think we would need collaboration of everyone to get everything

23:20

Probably every special tole got something

23:20

Although the part on my secret channel wasn't very useful

23:20

Just scary voices

Anger The second fallen werewolf. Those stupid townsfolk. Everything was going wrong and it could have all gone right if they weren't just so stupidly insistent. It was not fair! Why would this need to happen?

23:21

the other one didnt have anything but the not fair caught my eye

We got something in wolf pack iirc

23:23

ቿረጎኗቿ የዪሁዕቿክፕቿዪ pretty sure this means "choose with caution"

23:23

Let me translate it with google

23:23

It does

hm

Choose wisely because it could be your last choice (edited)

i coudltn find anything in the wolfpack

Quant isn't cit

23:27

Gottem

allright so we're aiming well

Unless we get terribly unlucky with the infection we got this

Their voices you hear, at the dusk and dawn. If you hide in fear, you will be a pawn,

this one is about the storytimes btw

Supreme Sorcerer Suso

I think we would need collaboration of everyone to get everything

there are hints only some people have gotten, but you can solve it without them

That one is from a storytime

Thomas, Warlock from Sirdia

there are hints only some people have gotten, but you can solve it without them

Ts i am dumb

its telling us to listen to storytime

I cannot solve it with them

so i think everything can be solved with storytimes alone, and the rest are just hints to help people

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23:31

quantum also tried to solve it

23:31

and ts gave him the hint that

A spellbook, a broken potion bottle as well as an arrow, but what's even worse is that not only had patches of his skin turned black, but he had also clearly been mauled by a werewolf.

had stuff to do with it

23:31

he thought all the objects matched with a person

hmm

23:31

Yeah

23:32

That makes sense

harp the spellbinger with the book, shapeshfiter jay with the maul, and arch the alchemist with the broken bottle

23:32

he couldnt find out who the arrow was from (edited)

23:32

and im not completely sure why jay was the maul but i guess the shapeshifter thing?

You have an arrow as your icon

and i think there's a 5th object he didn't talk about, a 5th thing, the black patches

Although I doubt that's it

yeah i thought so too but apparently its only the nicknames specifically

Black patches represent plague

yeah so its also just a jab at the roles ingame

23:34

but idk who the arrow is from, that's a mystery

23:34

as if there arent enough mysteries in this already

23:34

@Thomas, Warlock from Sirdia has dead spec solved it already?

ive discussed the answer with dead spec, they cant solve it anymore

sad

okay so theres a time limit on it

23:36

cuz i do wanna figure it out

Does solving this affect anything ingame?

no, but ill think off some special reward, but it will not be worth much if anything

before this game we discussed the idea of doing a game at some point where the actual game events were hidden behind puzzles, idk if we're ever doing it, but I wanted to try puzzles

yeah

23:37

i guess making it this hard isn't the way to go for the actual game

23:37

but definitely keep it difficult

this way is fun

23:38

(for me)

yeah i get that

but its actually really difficult to do it, idk how we could possibly do it for actual game events

and i guess more people would be working on it in the actual game

23:38

well for a starter you cant host the puzzle game on your own

No, I cast a very good spell to stop all the sorcery from working during the conclave and my spell is very good and very sorcery it would never fail.

23:39

The way this is phrased kills me

cant believe the man who wrote this wanted to write a novel

23:41

You are doing his work, First One

which storytime is this from?

Vera, Druid of the Spring

well for a starter you cant host the puzzle game on your own

still my conclusion from this game is that it would be very very difficult to do it

Crokras's magical arrows had all been stolen. It must have been an attempt to frame him.

23:43

This is where the arrows come from

wait but why would the arrow be from a non-player

They are the ones used in the murder

23:43

Idk

fair

23:43

i guess the gms do actually play a part in this

23:44

but i still dont think thats the right answer, it bothers me that its not all actually players

Hmm

23:44

Are we sure the other ones refer to players a well?

23:44

I guess it makes sense

23:44

But there's no way to relate arrows to a player without roles

23:44

And I don't think that's it

are there enough game masters for them to refer to gms only?

Roles would be too convoluted

23:45

Not really(?

roles wouldnt work

23:45

it'd be too confusing

At least not mentioned in the lore

plus we can all get it from storytime, so a role wouldnt make sense

23:45

ts couldnt have depended it on arch dying for the arrow, right?

23:45

i mean he would, he's gone mad

23:45

but i dont think so

The arrow thing isn't related with that on the text, is it?

very tempted to just make a google doc for this

It's just a random announcement

hm

I also don't know what is an anagram

23:46

Or what's with the cities and the cardinal directions

do you mean you dont know the word anagram or which words are anagrams?

Pretty sure the right direction is south because in the south pole the sun does not rise nor set

Vera, Druid of the Spring

do you mean you dont know the word anagram or which words are anagrams?

Which ones are

it doesnt either in the north pole sometimes

The word anagram was hidden as an anagram itself lmao

yeah i saw

23:50

i made a google doc with the storytimes

23:50

might be easier to work on than in discord

sounds good

idk if @Thomas, Warlock from Sirdia would like it if i shared the doc tho

if its just about the mystery, sure

23:54

add me though

probably do it with email invite or remove the link beofre game ends since it will be archived

23:54

idk if that is the best idea

23:54

though it will be private archive

eh should be fine

~~url~~

Does every channel here get stored?

23:55

That sounds insane

why would the archive not be allowed to see it?

23:55

we would never break tos

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1

lmao

email/name when clicking the link

23:55

as creator of doc

its my alt

23:55

dw

aighty

i paid attention to that

23:56

im just setting the things straight for now

23:56

what hints where in storytime

We are now solving two puzzles at once!

wdym

The game

23:57

And the lore

the game

23:57

game

oh no

lore is more fun tho

long cat strikes back

long cat is a classic here

It seems like every message has at least one piece of the puzzle

00:00

I can't find the one for the very first one tho

d0?

ye

I can say this much, every storytime has something, but D0 just has: Marten has died

oh

00:00

so d0 isnt really a part of the lore

D0 is just the premise

00:00

I mean it is

allright

00:00

nice

oke

we having nothing on d2 yet

The lines being split

oh right

It's the only message formatted like that

00:11

And it's super weird

yeah its not the first letter of each line i think

00:12

TEINDTTD

00:12

makes no sense

epic!

i am so confused

00:22

i think its because we dont know what we're looking for exactly

00:22

makes it more difficult

00:25

from what i get, "doing his work, first one" seems to refer to wyatt being the first one to die

00:26

or it refers to someone being the first one to kill

I'm not sure

00:26

That's iffiest translation from latin I got

00:26

I couldn't figure it out with a dictionary

but the voice also doesnt want people to die, because of "dont let the magic die"

And google's result didn't make sense

00:27

The voice also said "magic won't last forever"

which storytime was that

Oh and also the voices are vanishing as time goes on

00:27

None, my chat

Supreme Sorcerer Suso

Oh and also the voices are vanishing as time goes on

This last bit also my chat

ah okay

They are not super important pieces of evidence of course

00:28

But they can act as clues I guess

if theyre from your chat they're only clues

00:28

but we might be able to work with it

00:29

what did it say exactly in your chat

The Voices It's finally time to go to sleep, and you are so ready for it. You've been hearing voices all day and they just will not stop. "ዐጠክጎነ ፕሁ," you hear. "Not again!" you shout into the empty room. "ነርጎነ ቿፕ ጠዐዪጎቿፕሁዪ" they continue. "Can you just stop??" you continue in desperation. "✘," they reply. "I'm so tired of this... wait, what? Did they just reply?" "✔," they once again reply. "ክሁረረሁነ ቿነፕ ነልረሀሁነ," they start up again. But this time you barely notice. You've had an idea. "Am I the @Supreme Sorcerer Suso?", you try. "✔," they confirm. This could be useful. You may ask the voices about the true identity of one other magic folk and they will confirm or disconfirm it.

00:30

First night

00:30

Silence Today the voices have been quiet since the morning, when they spoke to everyone in the hall. "Are you still here?", you asked them. "✔," they replied, but stayed silent afterward. Could they have some sort of connection to the Prophet's words? Anyway, did it really matter? As long as they were still here to answer another question for you, it would be alright. @Supreme Sorcerer Suso what will tonight's question be?

00:30

Second night

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The voices, they grow weaker every day. But why? What's weakening them? You hope they still have enough energy to answer another question. What do you wish to ask, @Supreme Sorcerer Suso?

00:30

Fourth night

hm

00:32

nothing interesting n3 i assume

nope

00:32

No lore there

allright

00:33

man i just wanna know what we are looking for

00:33

a person or a phrase or a word

There is an "answer"

00:36

So it has to be something that we can transmit over text without it being too convoluted

allright

I think the final solution is the riddle that the prophet said

00:36

Because it mentions a "threat"

00:36

That's what we're looking for

heights it does defy

00:37

wait

00:37

if it never goes by, does not rise or set

00:37

isn't that just the sun?

00:37

thatd mean the threat is on the sun

The sun does rise

00:37

And set

exactly

00:37

wait

00:37

yeah hm

Oh, if it never goes by

00:37

I missed that part

00:37

The day

it's the same it

The day goes by

00:38

And so the sun rises and sets

yeah

00:38

but where does the day not go by

00:39

because its both the south pole and the north pole that have moments where the sun doesnt rise or set

00:39

the day still goes by tho

00:42

@Thomas, Warlock from Sirdia have all hints been given yet?

00:42

as in, can we find the answer with everything we currently have

Hm

i have more planned hints, but you can solve it already

allright

but if youre stuck you can wait

its hard to know where to start

00:43

when was the first day that it was possible to find the answer?

00:43

or first night

00:43

first phase

cant say

fair enough

Day 0

00:44

The answer was in our hearts all along

lmao

00:44

maybe martens killers were the friends we made along the way

00:44

i wanna solve the riddle before i die tho

00:44

cuz i dont wanna read it in dead spec

00:44

hopefully i wont die but god knows

same tbh

we dont really have anything confirmed atm, no hints that we're sure about?

00:46

the latin kinda seems to make sense

00:48

maybe the bold statement in night 4 signifies that the people from the potion, spellbook etc are all dead?

00:49

no thats not right

00:49

harp is still alive

It wouldn't make sense

00:54

Since the names and the items were there since the start

00:55

And they could have not died

yeah

00:55

hm

00:55

im gonna continue this tomorrow (edited)

00:55

hopefully storytime tomorrow will have some clues

Yeah

01:01

I'm off to sleep as well

01:01

Oh yeah btw

01:02

Unless Sharl dies this night from infection somehow

01:02

I'm pretty sure we win this

01:02

Since tomorrow it will be 12 people, 6v6 on the poll but we have the extra vote

500 ish msgs damn Tldr plis

04:47

Also I'm not infected

we were solving the lore that ts is giving in the storytime messages

06:40

also dennis, luffy and the hags know im wolf

Vera, Druid of the Spring

also dennis, luffy and the hags know im wolf

how?

idk luffy was really convinced i was the fake hag

06:58

so i think huntsman checked me or something

06:59

idrc

06:59

hags will work with me, at least for the dennis lynch

btw I'm not infected yet

07:07

at least I'm not dying today

yeah

07:09

meuh and leila are dying today

realsad

leila

08:11

you didnt die without cause

08:11

you were helpful to the team and we will miss you

thanks

08:13

good luck team

thank

we have a bunch of infected towns as well do we really wanna lynch dennis now considering the entire pack is probably well known to everyone (edited)

yes

08:25

dennis is also against wolves i think

08:25

town can only lynch

08:25

we can actually kill

hope more than 1 town dies tonight

Sharl Imposbl, the Trickster

Also I'm not infected

Ayy, we win maybe

i like how your judgement goes from "we'll win" to "we win, maybe"

It just goes

Sticker

when are we gonna start the dennis lynch?

12:17

should i ask the hags?

Yeah

12:20

Surprisingly

12:20

Everything went as planned

12:20

We can totally lynch Dennis and from then we win

12:20

Since we don't have to calculate the plague anymore

I think we should just start now

12:29

Just say Dennis has been confirmed to be the plague bearer

12:30

We all vote

12:30

And even if they refuse to believe us there's nothing they can do

12:30

They don't have any abilities they can cast on us left

12:30

Mat got the double vote, right?

hmmm

13:03

we have seven votes to 6 if all hags vote with us

13:03

idk if Turtle will stick with us though

13:03

if Turtle does, we've practically won

How's it looking? @Vera, Druid of the Spring

13:04

Objectively they don't have a reason to betray us

13:04

They just win as well

cuz then after tonight, it'll be 4 town 3 hags 3 wolves, and we just need hags to be with us all through the game

game could probably be ffed if you are right

I don't know what that means

13:11

But I'm assuming it means it ends

ff = fast forward

We still want to solve the puzzle tho

i have given all hints/pieces/whatever

lemme get this to the hags

13:29

we have 7 v 6 with hags rn right?

13:31

@Supreme Sorcerer Suso so what exactly should i put in hag chat

Essentially that

13:32

We kick Dennis today (edited)

13:32

No one can stop us if we work together

13:32

Because we achieved majority on the entire village

hell yeah

And once he's gone, we can predict everything because the infection stops

yeah

13:38

the hags are in

13:38

they want dennis gone

13:38

so mats gonna announce dennis lynch and turtle guardian

Epic

Vera, Druid of the Spring

turtle is the little bitch here

LMAOAOAOAOAA

22:26

Yes.

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