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Werewolves Bot B BOT 07-Aug-21 05:25 PM

@Canoeptain Slaluffy has created a new CC! CC Members | Total: 2 @Canoeptain Slaluffy @BMrMXing

Canoeptain Slaluffy 07-Aug-21 05:25 PM

Hi

Just noticed we didnt have a cc yet

BMrMXing 07-Aug-21 05:28 PM

Good spot, well rectified

How're you doing?

Canoeptain Slaluffy 07-Aug-21 05:34 PM

Decent i guess. Going treetop trekking

BMrMXing 07-Aug-21 05:39 PM

That sounds like fun!

So preferably without falling out of a tree... what do you think's going on with this mess?

Canoeptain Slaluffy 07-Aug-21 06:00 PM

This game? Not really sure, it seems pretty solvable now though

Did assassin kill sharl

BMrMXing 07-Aug-21 06:03 PM

I'm not completely clear on that one

If they did it was a ballsy af move on a 25% shot

Canoeptain Slaluffy 07-Aug-21 06:05 PM

Isnt it 50%

BMrMXing 07-Aug-21 06:05 PM

No

Canoeptain Slaluffy 07-Aug-21 06:05 PM

Could be hell team or sneaking wolf

BMrMXing 07-Aug-21 06:05 PM

Ranger isn't affected by weak disguises

Heh

Canoeptain Slaluffy 07-Aug-21 06:05 PM

True, if they were hell they wouldnt have died anyways

BMrMXing 07-Aug-21 06:06 PM

Hell team disguises are weak yeah. I'm starting to feel better that I missed that one myself initially

Everyone else seems to have to pretty much

Canoeptain Slaluffy

True, if they were hell they wouldnt have died anyways

BMrMXing 07-Aug-21 06:07 PM

also that

BMrMXing 08-Aug-21 11:16 AM

Cards on the table, something is odd with you this game Luffy

Like several people have mentioned it and I concur, you're not your usual self from my very limited experience

I'm being told it is sus but I don't remember you playing this way whatever your alignment was

Is it irl stuff, bored with your role, or actually sus?

Canoeptain Slaluffy 08-Aug-21 02:24 PM

I was kinda busy with irl stuff the last few days

And its kinda boring not being in trusted chat

BMrMXing 08-Aug-21 02:25 PM

Heh yeah been there bought that t-shirt

Canoeptain Slaluffy 08-Aug-21 02:26 PM

I went to the beach recently

BMrMXing 08-Aug-21 02:27 PM

Nice, between that and treetop trekking that's a good amount of outside, good work

I got eaten by some horrid biting thing last time I went to the beach tho

Canoeptain Slaluffy 08-Aug-21 02:28 PM

Yea it was on consecutive days (edited)

If u need advice later, u can always ask

BMrMXing 08-Aug-21 02:31 PM

ty, how to tell a real cit from a not real one when the Ti can't see through disguises would always be helpful advice

Canoeptain Slaluffy 08-Aug-21 02:32 PM

Oh usually its best to save those for last

BMrMXing 08-Aug-21 02:32 PM

atm there's like a 25% chance of an unchecked cit, and still less than 50% of a checked one being town at best

Yeah we don't have anything else

There are 8 cit claims

Canoeptain Slaluffy 08-Aug-21 02:33 PM

Hmm im thinking

You'd probably need to talk to each one

BMrMXing 08-Aug-21 02:33 PM

Yeah doing that

Canoeptain Slaluffy 08-Aug-21 02:34 PM

Was it goose or turtle that was wolf kill

BMrMXing 08-Aug-21 02:34 PM

They range from very helpful but pushy, to chatty through to almost uncommunicative

Goose, we killed Turtle

He countered a trusted so...

And we were right

Canoeptain Slaluffy 08-Aug-21 02:35 PM

Oh then that made things easy

Sometimes its really easy to see wolves fake claiming if they don't commit enough to the fake claim (edited)

BMrMXing 08-Aug-21 02:36 PM

Agreed, but idk if that works so well with cit

Like there's nothing to fake, you just don't know anything

So then it comes down to reads

But that's complicated by activity and assumptions about that etc

Canoeptain Slaluffy 08-Aug-21 02:37 PM

If there's 8 cit claims, the odds are in your favor at least. Only 2 real ones, assuming sharl was real

BMrMXing 08-Aug-21 02:38 PM

Logically Sharl was

Very outside chance not, and if we're wrong about that well fml, but 1/4 he was the SW... but then that was almost certainly wolf kill with the wager

Canoeptain Slaluffy 08-Aug-21 02:39 PM

Yea

If it wasnt assassin then it was wager or pack kill

BMrMXing 08-Aug-21 02:39 PM

It wasn't.

Canoeptain Slaluffy 08-Aug-21 02:39 PM

But yeah ur right

In this game when ur not in trusted

Theres not much to do

BMrMXing 08-Aug-21 02:40 PM

Which then makes it problematic perhaps to judge purely on cc's with cits

Like wolves and hell team might be more invested and so put more effort in

Canoeptain Slaluffy 08-Aug-21 02:42 PM

Sometimes i try and bait a kill so that trusted can live

BMrMXing 08-Aug-21 02:43 PM

Kinda shitty spot, I honestly don't see how we can get this right with the margain for error currently. Which is 0

Yeah. That has been thought of but Wolves and hell have been a step ahead most of the game. And have that Psychic too.

Canoeptain Slaluffy 08-Aug-21 02:43 PM

There was no wager kill yesterday so does that mean town got it

Oh wait does hell team have 3 souls now

Minimum

BMrMXing 08-Aug-21 02:46 PM

They didn't get a soul last night if my info on that is correct

idk what Jayanna did with it first night though

Canoeptain Slaluffy 08-Aug-21 02:46 PM

She probably checked someones role

Logically speaking

BMrMXing 08-Aug-21 02:47 PM

Yeah I would have thought so too... and then got infected, that was such a good start to the game for town

Very slight chance she took the protect though due to everyone hitting her

Devil may only have 2 souls, but its a dangerous assumption. Was kinda hoping it was Turtle but obv not

Canoeptain Slaluffy 08-Aug-21 02:48 PM

Possible but depends on when she got infected

No they have 3 because

They get 2

From devil and demon

At start

BMrMXing 08-Aug-21 02:50 PM

Oh crap yeah they do don't they

ok so minimum 3

Canoeptain Slaluffy 08-Aug-21 02:51 PM

If they get to 4 i think they just win

BMrMXing 08-Aug-21 02:52 PM

Feels op them having had demon too with this few players

Canoeptain Slaluffy

If they get to 4 i think they just win

Canoeptain Slaluffy 08-Aug-21 02:52 PM

This is assuming the souless are alive

Wait yea they just win

BMrMXing 08-Aug-21 02:54 PM

Only way of finding them is either accidentally lynching them and them soulkilling everyone in revenge, or ranger dying

Or a kill not going through I guess

Canoeptain Slaluffy 08-Aug-21 02:54 PM

Cuz theres 10 people left

1 from lynch. 1 from pack kill, one from wager kill. 7 alive, 4 souls, 2 on team

So 3 non souless

Or 4

BMrMXing 08-Aug-21 02:57 PM

Ouch yeah that's close

There is a possibliity they don't have demon any more

I really don't know what Turtle was. We just knew he wasn't Ranger.

Canoeptain Slaluffy 08-Aug-21 02:57 PM

Then it would have had to be prophet right

No turtle cant be

Cuz hell team has defence

BMrMXing 08-Aug-21 02:58 PM

Demon does too?

Werewolves Bot B BOT 08-Aug-21 02:58 PM

Demon | Solo Killing - Hell Team Basics The Demon wins with the devil and joins a channel with the devil to communicate securely. Just like the devil the Demon can use the hell team's pool of souls. Details At the start of the game, the Demon may choose a role as a weak disguise. If the Demon doesn’t choose a role, they will show up as a citizen. At the start of the game the Demon's soul is added to the hell team's pool of souls, and they are soulless afterwards. The Demon may use souls from the pool to protect or attack somebody. If the Demon is attacked while a soul is in the pool, a soul will automatically be used to protect the Demon. Use $info souls for a detailed explanation. Members of the Hell team cannot change role or betray the team in any way.

Canoeptain Slaluffy 08-Aug-21 02:58 PM

Yea

BMrMXing 08-Aug-21 02:58 PM

Ah yes, ffs I've been that role

I knew that

Long day already

We did assume he was scum just because surely they wouldn't ALL claim cit

Canoeptain Slaluffy 08-Aug-21 02:59 PM

Jay, turtle, prophet were all wolves i guess. So 3 wolves left?

BMrMXing 08-Aug-21 02:59 PM

And I thought it was a bait to see if we knew the real one. They know we do now so idc

Yeah that's logical

Canoeptain Slaluffy 08-Aug-21 03:00 PM

And that means...

5 town?

And 2 hell team

This kinda sucks cuz if u only kill wolves then theres 3 town left by the time theyre dead. While hell has 3 souls

BMrMXing 08-Aug-21 03:01 PM

yeah. hell win unless wolves give up who hell are ig

Canoeptain Slaluffy 08-Aug-21 03:02 PM

Oof, yea this is a difficult situation

BMrMXing 08-Aug-21 03:03 PM

ikr

ig in some ways it is kinda so messed that town just has to yolo and see what happens

Put up the most sus cit for lynch, even if it is very circumstantial, and hope they are either hell, or a wolf who then wants to do a deal

Like it probably doesn't matter anyway. I just don't want to get even more shouted at in dead chat than I already will

Canoeptain Slaluffy 08-Aug-21 03:10 PM

I think youve done well so far, from what i can tell

BMrMXing 08-Aug-21 03:13 PM

ty, I moved far too slowly early game though given the smaller size of this

compared to the couple of previous ones I played (edited)

Canoeptain Slaluffy 08-Aug-21 03:14 PM

Oh yeah its easy to overestimate the size of the game

BMrMXing 08-Aug-21 03:15 PM

Dunno if the mistakes lead to substantially worse outcomes though

Canoeptain Slaluffy 08-Aug-21 03:15 PM

Always good to do maths on how many of each team are left, as you go

I think the only way for town to win rn is to kill devil themself, then wolves after that

BMrMXing 08-Aug-21 03:16 PM

Yeah, same for wolves too, if they keep killing town I think hell win (edited)

Canoeptain Slaluffy 08-Aug-21 03:16 PM

Or maybe a wolf first works

We have 2 more of us than wolves so thats room to kill devil by lynch

But not both of hell team

Sadly

Cuz i think if we go to final 6 with both devil and demon alive

Its insta lose

Wait no

Final 7 is insta lose

And there's 10 alive rn

So we lose if we dont kill devil/demon today or tomorrow, and if wolves dont attack them

Hopefully wolves will attack them if they realize

BMrMXing 08-Aug-21 03:22 PM

That seems logically sound yeah

BMrMXing 09-Aug-21 01:09 AM

Running numbers was a good suggestion but omg the combinations

I'm gonna wake up in my sleep doing them I think

Canoeptain Slaluffy 09-Aug-21 02:18 AM

Yeah it really helps u realize stuff u might not have otherwise

BMrMXing 09-Aug-21 02:21 AM

The state of trusted chat now though, looks like someone went mad in there

(insert mad scientist image here)

BMrMXing 09-Aug-21 01:10 PM

Just to note if you were really cit, Dora's target was supposed to have been changed. Ofc if you were the Sneaky Wolf ignore this it was exactly what we planned lol