Werewolves Revamped - wolfpack

Werewolves Revamped

🕵 Os7c Secret Channels / wolfpack

Wolfpack Most of the werewolves (Members of the Werewolf Team) are also part of the wolfpack. All members of the wolfpack know each other and receive a secret channel to communicate among themselves securely. Each night, the wolfpack votes to attack one player. Not all members of the wolfpack necessarily are also werewolves. Unless explicitly listed otherwise, all members of the Werewolf Team are also part of the pack. Lycans Most, but not all members of the Werewolf Team are lycans. This is relevant for roles such as the Priest. Unless explicitly listed otherwise, all members of the Werewolf Team are lycans. Lycans are basically those members of the werewolf team that truly are werewolves, and not just allies of the werewolves (e.g. while foxes are part of the werewolf team they aren't truly werewolves, so they aren't lycans).

@Jayanna YO

14:13

YO

14:13

SAME TEAM

Woaaaahhhhhhhh finallyyyyyy??!!!!?!?!!

17:23

Unless

17:24

We have a www, so........unless

o yeah.....

17:30

we can hope

okay so the bloody butcher needs to claim and tell us the butchers

Hi ts

hi

What if www kills butchers one by one to eventually set up the bbs death

im not sure what you mean

17:46

www cant kill butchers except for the bloody butcher

Oh

but he'll know the BB already anyway because the butchers should claim in town square since they can assume that BB shares butchers with wolfpack

Right

17:47

Lmaooowww

and since WWW is in the pack as well all evils already known the butchers (from the actual butcher perspective)

Anyway yeah im bb

17:48

Turtle quantum and mat are butchers

cool

17:48

so like I said the good strat for town is to claim butcher publically

17:48

im unsure if I should say that

17:49

there is potential for the remaining butchers not realizing

17:49

though realistically id expect turtle at least to know

Wow turtle and mat would know

17:49

Also

17:49

I already asked

so I can probably say it in town square safely

17:50

its something I'd say

Okie dokie

17:50

Wait

17:50

Wait like 10 mins

17:50

To say

sure

Oh nice im on jays team

Hey luffy

19:04

Wheres the tanner

We dont have one i think?

o/

21:47

Unless anyone objects, would you guys be cool with me claiming Huntsman this time around?

21:48

Not the biggest fan of all citizen wolf claims and a confirmed huntsman out there, with us just waiting to be found out.

21:48

Of course if someone else wants to do it, that's better, because I'm kind of known for faking TIs (edited)

do it sure

Poll #xar

22:02

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- @Harp

- @Luffy

realsad

- @Jayanna

- @Leila

bonk

- @Meuh

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- @Mat

roald

- @Arch

- @Dennis

- @Turtle

- @Sharl

️ - @Ts

- @Quantum

- @Wyatt

- @Fed ❓ - Random

Who do you want to attack tonight

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Im bad at fake claimong

22:03

Important roles

im bad at fake claimong

we probably should claim huntsman, angel, citizen and citizen

Idk who to kill. Random? Or maybe butcher

@Wyatt can invest a random person and cc them seeing he has invested them

22:05

possible targets are: Leila, Meuh, Jean, Dennis, Sharl, fed

No huntsman is supposed to invest butchers

oh

22:05

right

22:05

damn

22:05

sad

22:05

you are right

Can invest jay maybe

nah

The faster the better though, becomes less believable with time

jay's the "sus one" tho apparently

im thinking turtle, but it also kinda sucks

22:07

turtle is also sus and it wouldnt tie wyatt to another wolf

oo

But wyatt always fake claims ti

22:07

Shouldn't it be someone else

sure

Ts

possible targets are: Leila, Meuh, Jean, Dennis, Sharl, fed

we still need to try to analyze these people though

22:10

killing a butcher would put butcher lynch odds at better odds than a random lynch

Ones angel too

22:10

Which we dont want to kill

yea

22:11

I faked TI in the last game I played so I'm not doing it

It would also suck to kill our claimspace while keeping butchers alive (edited)

thats why we need to talk to those 6 people if possible

If we killed cit

without any reads/claims our odds are 33% of a good hit on those 6

22:12

16% of a bad one

22:13

butcher is guaranteed but like I said it puts lynch odds at 33% which is better than a random lynch so it's not a very good play

22:13

I can talk to fed and another person

I would personally say butcher is the safest and best move

22:14

For murder

I disagree

22:15

Assassin/Huntsman are much more important targets

But its risky

22:15

For night1

22:15

And a butcher will be made mayor

we can kill them then

22:15

they can still make a butcher mayor if we kill one now

Yea but itll be one who isnt confirmed

a 16% isnt very high, and that is with NO information

Luffy

Yea but itll be one who isnt confirmed

how is a butcher confirmed?

22:16

they are only claiming to have been seen by the Huntsman

By huntsman i mean

and there'll be hopefully two of those

22:17

if a butcher is confirmed tonight and we kill them we confirm the Huntsman

What if we do a huntsman claim and say turtle is scum

to sow more confusion we can fake invest a random butcher and jayanna claims they were approached by a huntsman

Or is that too risky

Luffy

What if we do a huntsman claim and say turtle is scum

this doesnt work

22:18

well it does

22:18

im dumb

22:18

if you know which butcher is scum the other 3 become confirmed

Like for example.if i made a cc with the 3 other butchers

22:18

And say that

yea yea

22:18

I missed that

22:18

its been a while

Is that plan preferable

22:19

To just choosing a trusty one

yeah its better I believe

22:19

we still shouldnt kill a butcher though

Should i do it? It could really backfire though

it would only implicate you if you mess it up

Yea

and its not like this is a huge game where it'd be super frustrating

Shpuld i then?

we need to verify @Wyatt hasnt claimed

22:20

he probably hasnt

I haven't claimed.

What do u think wyatt

22:21

Is it a good idea

they cant really proof you wrong

Luffy, if you played ToS before, it's similar to faking Sheriff claim as Mafia.

22:21

I think it's much less daunting then it seems

Pkay ill do it

awesome

22:22

we still need to talk to people

u guys figure out who to kill though yeah

22:23

i should probably keep to myself with the ccs

I already have a cc with fed, I can do one more

Signed Up Players | Total: 14

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- harperette (@Harp)

- Captain Luffy (@Luffy) realsad

realsad

- Jayanna (@Jayanna)

- Leilaboo (@Leila) bonk

bonk

- Meuh (@Meuh)

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- MatMeistress (@Mat) roald

roald

- Jean D. Arch (@Arch)

- Dennis (@Dennis)

- Mr. Turtle (@Turtle)

- Sharl Eclair (@Sharl)

️ - Ts (@Ts)

- Quantum (@Quantum)

- Wyatt (@Wyatt)

- federick (@Fed) (edited)

oh 2 more

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realsad

btw as a town strat checking Butcher is bad, there's a higher chance of randomly finding a wolf than finding the BB (edited)

22:24

but im not gonna say that

i did it

good luck

22:26

we need to try to get reads on these people: Leila - quiet Meuh - strange Jean - normal Dennis - quiet Sharl - absent fed - normal (edited)

I have cc with arch

cool

Jean is normal, i would agree

idk how Meuh acts normally

I havent played with meuh in ages

they seem to be softclaiming Angel which implies they're not Angel

Could make for a good kill but

22:29

Id feel bad

22:29

He barely plays

optimally each of the people has one of us cc them

22:30

with Luffy being the Huntsman one of us probably needs to be the angel

22:30

I'm not sure if Assassin is a good idea

Maybe harper could do that

then wyatt and me will have to be citizen

Angel could backfire tho

you need to have a fakeclaim for it as well

Assassin can just kill them if they have no other kills

true but less risky than claiming Assassin

22:32

Harp - Angel Jayanna - Butcher Luffy - Huntsman Wyatt - Citizen Ts - Citizen

1

22:32

that acceptable for everyone?

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@Harp babby

hh

Hellhound | Werewolf Miscellaneous Basics There is always more than one Hellhound. All the Hellhounds have a secret channel where they can communicate with the other Hellhounds securely. Details Hellhounds are the werewolf version of bakers. These werewolves know from each other that they are Hellhounds, and they can use and share this information in their battle against the white werewolf. Sometimes it is, and sometimes it is not, in the interest of the werewolf team to immediately inform the rest of the werewolves that they are Hellhounds. If a Hellhound betrays the group in any way (by changing alignment or role) the Hellhounds are immediately disbanded.

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SHUT

@Participant which of those do you think you could most naturarlly cc: Leila, Meuh, Jean, Dennis, Sharl

leila

do it then

I could do leila too

22:36

I always cc her

I already have a CC with Jean

22:36

although Jean made that CC with me.

we have 3 each so we can do leila twice

22:36

anything useful from jean?

Not yet.

sad

22:37

same with fed for me

Ill try meuh

@Jayanna who to kill

01:23

Need a placeholder in case we forget

01:29

Mat said he thought dennis was angel i think?

I dont think he said that

01:39

Maybe kinda

01:40

What about sharl

01:40

I dont have a cc with him but

01:40

Just a name i havent seen much

Okay ill put a vote on sharl then

I voted sharl

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Results for Poll #xar: (5)

@Sharl - @Luffy, @Jayanna, @Wyatt, @Ts

Attacking @Sharl

get money

If all goes well, we lynch turtle?

15:23

Best case scenario

sure yeah

I hate lying so much

I feel quite bad about this tbh but as of rn the other butchers believe me

Luffy

I hate lying so much

????????????????????sir

16:24

may as well call this game Liewolves of Lie Hollie

16:24

bc it's a game where you lie

the butcher should announce a mayor as well

They're waiting for jay to wake up

ah

I hope sharl was huntsman

16:33

That would be so good for us

1/6 chance

Slightly higher since its an educated guess (edited)

Meuh is voting suspiciously on the polls, which suggests they're trying to be sus (Angel) which suggests they're not angel

16:34

oh I didnt read that thing about dennis

16:35

yeah and sharl was quiet which makes more sense as Huntsman

16:36

just changed to what others are voting

Also @Jayanna try not to go for mayor. Otherwise we get reporter

16:36

If possible

unavoidable

16:36

some butcher will be mayor

16:36

its almost guaranteed

Yea i mean if possible

16:37

Try not to be the one

do we want to kill a butcher though?

But if sharl is huntsman we cant have reporter

minimum one of assassin or huntsman is still around

16:37

hm

Unless jay is reporter

16:38

But she wont be if shes mayor

we could make a random butcher mayor then not kill them and make jay reporter

That would be ideal

then the random butcher would seem sus

Dennis isnt voting so he might he huntsman

Sooooo

so?

ok and

yea

Nvm

guess we're stuck with mayor now

18:10

if you fight too hard it will be sus

18:10

I think its probably too late now

Yeah

ye

Ill just say the truth for this huntsman check i think

Alive Players | Total: 13

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- harperette (@Harp)

- Captain Luffy (@Luffy) realsad

realsad

- Jayanna (@Jayanna)

- Leilaboo (@Leila) bonk

bonk

- Meuh (@Meuh)

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- MatMeistress (@Mat) roald

roald

- Jean D. Arch (@Arch)

- Dennis (@Dennis)

- Mr. Turtle (@Turtle)

️ - Ts (@Ts)

- Quantum (@Quantum)

- Wyatt (@Wyatt)

- federick (@Fed) (edited)

Turt made cc with me for some reason

19:19

Just now

Oh, idont think he knows but

But...?

Idk, Whats turtle saying

That im a weeb

Lmaooo

Ok so

20:10

Assassin targets

20:11

Who are we thinking

Poll #keg

21:03

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- @Harp

- @Luffy

realsad

- @Jayanna

- @Leila

bonk

- @Meuh

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- @Mat

roald

- @Arch

- @Dennis

️ - @Ts

- @Quantum

- @Wyatt

- @Fed ❓ - Random

Attack

No

Okay

Results for Poll #keg: Nobody voted...

Attacking Nobody

alright

>:)

Poll #the

21:04

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- @Harp

- @Luffy

realsad

- @Jayanna

- @Leila

bonk

- @Meuh

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- @Mat

roald

- @Arch

- @Dennis

️ - @Ts

- @Quantum

- @Wyatt

- @Fed ❓ - Random

Who will be attacked tonight?

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i still think meuh's angel softclaim would make them a good target

It would

angel wouldnt try to seem like angel

yooo 2 attacks awesome

21:06

EPIC win

Polls would be missing a vote if angel voted?

That's not how angel works

21:16

Angel doesn't have -1 votes but they have -1 votes against them, and negative votes against someone don't show up in poll results

Angel | Unaligned Miscellaneous Basics The Angel wins when they are lynched. Details When the Angel wins, the Angel ascends and stops playing. The game continues. On all public votes the Angel starts out with -1 invisible votes. The Angel may select a player that dies when the Angel is lynched, if this player has voted for the Angel when the Angel is lynched, it is announced and they will also die. The Angel may change their target once per phase, with 1 emergency change to be used whenever the Angel wants to. The Angel cannot select themself. Targetting a player is an immediate effect. If they haven’t selected a valid target, a random player that has voted for the Angel is selected instead. If the Angel is lynched by unusual means (e.g. by the invisible Stalker votes or the Executioner selecting them) the player responsible for this will die with the Angel. If nobody except the Angel has voted for the Angel, nobody dies. If the Angel's target didn't vote for the Angel, but did put invisible votes on the Angel, they are considered a valid target.

On all public votes the Angel starts out with -1 invisible votes.

Ohh

21:22

So like if one person voted them theyd still show up as having 0 votes

21:22

Kk

Werewolves Bot B

Poll #the

it's the poll

the poll

Do we kill leila

21:57

Huntsman

21:58

Assassin can be more easily manipulated without info

That immediately makes u fake

Well you know, i assumed www would cover it up or something

Oop

22:03

Www

White Werewolf | Solo Killing Basics The White Werewolf is a werewolf who is not satisfied with merely killing the townsfolk; they must kill all the werewolves as well. On even numbered nights, the White Werewolf may attack a member of the wolfpack. Details To the werewolves, the White Werewolf will appear to be a regular wolf. However, it is the White Werewolf’s goal to win the game completely alone; even the other werewolves must die. Attacking a member of the wolfpack is an end-night ability. If only werewolves and the White Werewolf are left alive, the game will continue until either all werewolves are dead or the White Werewolf is dead. The White Werewolf imitates the most common Werewolf Miscellaneous role. That means, that the White Werewolf is strongly disguised as that role and gains all the abilities of that role. If the White Werewolf changes role, the disguise and abilities are lost. The White Werewolf is not part of the werewolf team, but is still considered a lycan and is part of the wolfpack.

Ok bot

22:04

Pls read my mind next time and know i didn't want u

Long term i think itll be good

22:04

Assassin can kill who i ask. If they believe me

22:05

And if not i die but

22:05

Either way they cant find the rest of us out

If www is doing a kill. Should kill jay cuz it stops reporter. Though preferably no kill pls

yall what am i claiming again

Angel i think

yea but i can't just tell some1 that

00:18

fyi mat's asking

Ooo

00:19

Actually

00:19

U could claim ángel

oo?

Theyre contemplating finding angel to give them reporter

btw i'm like about to sleep so no big plans

00:20

phase changes probably before i'm awake

Because any one of the butchers could be scum

00:20

@Luffy wdy think

Angel seems like a fine claim i guess

Have harp straight up claim angel?

00:21

Its in character for her

done

Wait who are we killing again

05:56

O ok, arch

Results for Poll #the: (4) roald

roald

@Arch - @Luffy, @Ts, @Jayanna

attacking Arch

Luffy who was your fake huntsman check?

leila

So you told assassin to kill them I'm assuming?

yeah

Alive Players | Total: 9

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- harperette (@Harp)

- Captain Luffy (@Luffy) bonk

bonk

- Meuh (@Meuh)

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- MatMeistress (@Mat)

- Dennis (@Dennis)

️ - Ts (@Ts)

- Quantum (@Quantum)

- Wyatt (@Wyatt)

- federick (@Fed) (edited)

9 alive and 4 are wolves

Angel probably sides with us I'm assuming?

hopefully

08:31

we could win rn if not for www

True

we shoudl probably just kill whoever they elect as mayor

I still think we're in a really really good spot though.

Luffy

we shoudl probably just kill whoever they elect as mayor

100 percent

08:31

getting reporter would completely change the perception of the game.

they trust me now that jay died apparently

08:32

it worked out

nice

they think leila and turtle and arch are all wolves

~~see faking ti works wonders when it works out, you should do it more~~

Luffy

they think leila and turtle and arch are all wolves

Wait that's super weird. Why would WWW kill a wolf in that instance.

theyre trying to figure it out

08:33

they think its someone afk like fed and might lynch him now

ahh

08:33

Fed going would be amazing.

i think fed is angel too

08:35

apparently hes the only one who hasnt claimed

killing www (if they assume its fed) is a bad move

ok seems nobody has a plan

Poll #cqe

21:07

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- @Harp

- @Luffy

bonk

- @Meuh

- @Dennis

️ - @Ts

- @Quantum

- @Wyatt ❓ - Random

Murder time

dennis

were doing good

yaaas

21:31

i've probably been found out as wolf lol

Results for Poll #cqe: (5)

@Dennis - @Wyatt, @Luffy, @Ts, @Harp

Attacking Dennis

make me mayor

Wait this endgame is so much less complicated then I thought it was.

13:04

wait nevermind it is

13:04

I was so confident Harper was www as well

13:04

Luffy being it was super rare, and there's no possible way Luffy's more likely www then I am.

its possible that the www is dead

13:31

if the www is dead ending the game now would reveal information we dont have

13:32

so I think the game couldn't have ended even if we did already win, because we don't know it and by not knowing it its possible there will still be more wolf casaulties

@Vera Wait is this true?

13:45

because if the www could be dead

13:45

then I think it's likely the www is dead.

what

13:48

can you rephrase your question

13:48

i am barely awake rn

Hypothetically if there's 1 Alpha Wolf + 2 Wolves vs 2 Town, but the Wolves don't know that there isn't a WWW left among them, and wolves could therefore kill themselves.

13:49

could the game still be ongoing even if there's a wolf majority? (edited)

the game hasnt ended yet is all i can say ¯\(ツ)\/¯

@Ts Based off that answer, I don't think that's likely the case?

I honestly can't say, but this is highly meta and exactly what I was trying to avoid

Fair enough.

13:55

Sorry I won't make that assumption then. (edited)

13:56

Wasn't trying to game the system.

There's questions I can't answer, don't try to get an answer

All I say is that if there's any chance www is dead, I think the best course of action from my pov is to trust that Harper was www.

13:58

even if that means having to sacrifice myself

13:59

having a town win out of this would be a disaster.

If I was Host I wouldn't be able to end the game even if there was 3 wolves and 2 town left

I know

17:00

So all I can literally say is "the game isn't over yet" because otherwise I would've ended it already

17:00

I know what I'm doing

game cant end even if one team has won if they dont know it

17:01

im pretty sure we had it several times before

Exactly

@Participant we're making luffy mayor

Ill vote in a bit

@Participant reminder to vote for luffy

Ill do it With 1 hour left i think. If thats alright

Poll #dwo

20:02

- @Luffy

bonk

- @Meuh

️ - @Ts

- @Quantum

- @Wyatt ❓ - Random

Time to bite!

alright @Wyatt we're killing you, sorry

20:03

it most likely was harper, but if not then its most likely you. I think harper is the most likely but we have to do it

20:04

if you're wolf: luffy and me will tie town tomorrow, nk 1 town during N5, lynch during D5, so win start of N6. If you're white werewolf you now get to choose. You can kill one of us and ensure a town victory or you can not kill and ensure a wolf victory

20:05

ultimately that's your choice

Ts if you're confident Luffy is Wolf, I have full faith in you.

cant be 100% sure, but its very very likely

Results for Poll #dwo: (4)

@Wyatt - @Luffy, @Wyatt, @Ts

Overwritten! The Alpha Wolf @Ts overwrote the poll and decided to attack @Luffy instead! @Participant

@Wyatt will you be online before the polls close (in 50 minutes)

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