Werewolves Revamped - dead

Jeanne D Arch 30-May-21 05:20 PM

LOL

ASTRA WOLF AGAIN

"No trust sim 2021" - stein as cit

lol harper

wait whats the point of Alpha if theeres no www

why not change to scared wolf

srehturk 30-May-21 05:23 PM

the gms wanted it

Jeanne D Arch 30-May-21 05:23 PM

oh

Captain Luffy 30-May-21 05:24 PM

well, not much different

Jeanne D Arch 30-May-21 05:24 PM

leila cit again

LOL

Captain Luffy 30-May-21 05:24 PM

ethan same as well

Jeanne D Arch 30-May-21 05:25 PM

what are the odds

Lord of Galaxy 30-May-21 05:25 PM

gimme list of everyone

Captain Luffy 30-May-21 05:25 PM

almost everyone is the same alignment they were from before

only like 3 differences

Lord of Galaxy 30-May-21 05:25 PM

what

how is that

possible

oh boi cult is strong

Captain Luffy 30-May-21 05:27 PM

well imma sleep now

Lord of Galaxy 30-May-21 05:28 PM

wha

whaaaat

whaaaaaaaaat???

isn't it, um, morning for you

Captain Luffy 30-May-21 05:29 PM

yes, i didnt sleep yet

Lord of Galaxy 30-May-21 05:30 PM

wow

just wow

i'll sleep in like 3 hours

and i'm on the opposite side of the world as you

Captain Luffy 30-May-21 05:31 PM

could be more opposite

like Philippines

Jeanne D Arch 30-May-21 05:31 PM

wow turtle is playing

Captain Luffy like Philippines

Lord of Galaxy 30-May-21 05:31 PM

true

also (edited)

who's www?

Captain Luffy 30-May-21 05:31 PM

there is none

Lord of Galaxy 30-May-21 05:31 PM

then

WHY

are there (edited)

Captain Luffy 30-May-21 05:32 PM

but they still have hellhounds

yes

and alpha owlf

Lord of Galaxy 30-May-21 05:32 PM

hellhounds

and alpha wolf

Jeanne D Arch 30-May-21 05:32 PM

ikr

Lord of Galaxy 30-May-21 05:32 PM

the wolf pack is weak

Captain Luffy 30-May-21 05:32 PM

meh, there were weaker before

with www

Lord of Galaxy 30-May-21 05:32 PM

true

but vamp exists

if not for vamp i'd predict a town walkover

@sT

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/848583935067553812/848584018516639754 (edited)

um, doesn't the bot delete spectator reactions?

there's a rather large number of ccs with >2 people

so early

wow

am impressed

@sinneD that link is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7CL8anA1hQ btw

is trivial to decode

tho i would expect it would send the link in some GM channel

Jeanne D Arch 30-May-21 06:35 PM

wow a lot of ppl got demotivated rip

i think you guys shouldve given a grace period after the game reset

ask people if they still want to play

Jeanne D Arch 30-May-21 07:18 PM

wait prophet is a girl

?

Jeanne D Arch 30-May-21 08:12 PM

LOL CHECKING CHEF\

Jeanne D Arch 30-May-21 08:56 PM

saber pls....

Jeanne D Arch 30-May-21 09:38 PM

Captain Luffy 30-May-21 10:27 PM

Jeanne D Arch 31-May-21 06:06 AM

Well killing chef is only acceptable if the town waiter died

srehturk 31-May-21 12:05 PM

NO, Hobits never set a target

6h8ʍpꓛ 31-May-21 12:08 PM

they actively chose not to unfortunately

so they don't even get confirmed as huntress

srehturk 31-May-21 12:13 PM

anyone else confirmed by times plays?

6h8ʍpꓛ 31-May-21 12:13 PM

#💫thedoings lmaooo

the best part is he isn't even wold

he's a vampire fakeclaiming lone wolf waiter

srehturk 31-May-21 12:13 PM

i know but like? why make that claim?

6h8ʍpꓛ 31-May-21 12:33 PM

the best part of all of this is that because tear isn't actually lone, when town eventually lynch/Night kill astra the real lone wolf is going to join the pack and town won't be expecting it lol

srehturk 31-May-21 12:33 PM

ye

im hoping tear lives as i wanted a vamp win

At this rate they wont lynch anyone as they would all be accusing eachother

6h8ʍpꓛ 31-May-21 12:40 PM

I think best play for vamps tonight is to demonise ethan and astra since astra is likely to be night killed and etban is likely to be wolf killed

that'll hopefully help make up the loss of tear

srehturk 31-May-21 12:40 PM

ye

6h8ʍpꓛ 31-May-21 12:41 PM

or maybe vera instead of ethan

srehturk 31-May-21 12:45 PM

now i want tomorrow morning to be a blood bath because there will very much be groups forming

Lord of Galaxy 31-May-21 08:22 PM

ok what happened this game

referencing #undead

are town dead?

are wolves dead?

vamp?

Jeanne D Arch 31-May-21 08:34 PM

no

too many wolves ccing the claims

exposing prs one by one

Lord of Galaxy 31-May-21 08:35 PM

ohh

good

wolves being good

FOR ONCE

Captain Luffy 31-May-21 08:39 PM

or bad, because it exposes all wolves

since they are backing each other up

but it is getting public claims of important town lol

rebaSraeT 31-May-21 10:08 PM

sup

6h8ʍpꓛ 31-May-21 11:10 PM

dennis do you ever go offline

because i see you on literally 24/7

i am slightly concerned

sinneD 01-Jun-21 01:07 AM

Because i work from my pc, where discord is probably open during the day

So basically my pc (and discord) is on whenever I'm awake, unless I completely close discord for some reason (edited)

So you don't have to be concerned about my discord usage, most of the time it's just on in the background while I'm doing stuff

Captain Luffy or bad, because it exposes all wolves

Lord of Galaxy 01-Jun-21 07:33 AM

But vamp exists, so the tk would have to think twice before attacking wolves Wolves on the other hand wouldn't mind much if town pr get turned to undead

Captain Luffy 01-Jun-21 09:01 AM

Well look who vamp is demonizing lol (edited)

None of the people who claimed or were exposed

6h8ʍpꓛ 01-Jun-21 11:33 AM

funnily enough if nothing changes both will become undead

Jeanne D Arch 01-Jun-21 11:59 AM

lol

tru

Jeanne D Arch 01-Jun-21 12:12 PM

LOOOOL

shouldnt lw join pack

Werewolves Bot B BOT 01-Jun-21 12:17 PM

Lone Wolf | Werewolf Power Basics Each night, the Lone Wolf may attack one player. When the first member of the wolfpack dies, the Lone Wolf joins the wolfpack. Details The Lone Wolf doesn’t know the other werewolves, and starts off all alone, they are not a member of the wolfpack. Each night, they may kill one player on their own. If they kill someone who isn’t townsfolk or solo aligned, the Lone Wolf dies. When a member of the wolfpack dies, the Lone Wolf loses their powers and joins the wolfpack. Killing a player is an end-night ability.

Jeanne D Arch 01-Jun-21 12:29 PM

lol stein

now he feels how i felt before the game reset

"oHHhh im just cit why would yall attack me"

sinneD 01-Jun-21 12:30 PM

I really want to show him

Kill Stein. YOLO

MrM 01-Jun-21 12:30 PM

Oh good, I did something useful and died, go me!

Jeanne D Arch i think you guys shouldve given a grace period after the game reset

MrM 01-Jun-21 12:31 PM

Just to say, 1000% agree with this

sinneD I really want to show him

Kill Stein. YOLO

Jeanne D Arch 01-Jun-21 12:31 PM

ME TOO

BEST REASONING EVER

MrM Just to say, 1000% agree with this

Jeanne D Arch 01-Jun-21 12:32 PM

ikrrrrrrr people were burnt out after game reset and yall didnt give a break

MrM 01-Jun-21 12:32 PM

I found that a real head mash, getting reset into a different alignment, especially with more than half of the starting day gone

MrM Oh good, I did something useful and died, go me!

6h8ʍpꓛ 01-Jun-21 12:32 PM

atleast pack will get another kill because of your death

MrM Just to say, 1000% agree with this

sinneD 01-Jun-21 12:33 PM

I agree, for next time we'll keep it in mind

MrM 01-Jun-21 12:33 PM

Yup, that's what I meant, only useful thing I could do was to die

Jeanne D Arch 01-Jun-21 12:36 PM

like

literally there was someone who wasnt there during day before the game was reset, then unknowingly signed up to the next game without being aware the game being reset

of course there will be people who find it frustrating

Jeanne D Arch 01-Jun-21 01:06 PM

lol just spite the wolves stein they killed you for YOLO

if i were him, id go against anyone who killed me (edited)

Werewolves Bot B BOT 01-Jun-21 02:22 PM

Alive Players | Total: 21

️ - Ts (@sT)

- Vera (@areV) ▪️ - Ethan. (@.nahtE)

- harperette (@ettereprah)

- Bobloy (@yolboB)

- astraphiliac (@cailihpartsa)

- Prophet (@tehporP)

- Jayanna (@annayaJ)

- Leilaboo (@oobalieL)

- Orctin (@nitcrO)

️ - ItzCloud (@duolCztI)

️ - Time (@emiT)

- Le Héron (@noréH eL)

- Døra (@arøD)

- VoidMist (@tsiMdioV)

‍

- MatMeistress (@ssertsieMtaM)

- Mojo Jojo (@ojoJ ojoM)

- Wyatt (@ttayW)

- Steinator (@rotanietS)

- Mr. Turtle (@eltruT .rM)

️ - anna7ner (@ren7anna) (edited)

Jeanne D Arch 01-Jun-21 02:32 PM

Fa

FA

Werewolves Bot B BOT 01-Jun-21 02:33 PM

Fortune Apprentice | Townsfolk Miscellaneous Basics The Fortune Apprentice will take the place of the first town investigative role to die. Details At the start of the first day where a town investigative role died the previous day or night, the Fortune Apprentice will become the role of the first town investigative role that died, and join their secret channel. This will not happen if the Fortune Apprentice’s role has changed.

Jeanne D Arch 01-Jun-21 02:33 PM

Huh shouldn't FA become oracle orrr

yerfillag-ot-stibboh-gnitsoptihs 01-Jun-21 04:53 PM

oh shit i was afk for a day and i got killed n1

Captain Luffy 01-Jun-21 05:38 PM

Ts's check might actually tip the scales in wolves favour

maybe

Cuz cub dies tonight

Today*

Captain Luffy 01-Jun-21 10:07 PM

u guys didnt do wolfpack poll i think

sinneD 01-Jun-21 10:08 PM

we're still doing actions

cailihpartsa 01-Jun-21 10:41 PM

@Host can someone tell harper i wanna fuck her so bad it makes me look stupid

srehturk 01-Jun-21 10:53 PM

Jeanne D Arch 02-Jun-21 03:48 AM

What

Didnt yall plan a snipe

Captain Luffy 02-Jun-21 04:07 AM

They never got around to properly organizing it i think

Jeanne D Arch 02-Jun-21 04:26 AM

Oh

A shame, but undead wasnt willing to help either

duolCztI 02-Jun-21 05:44 AM

Fun game

Jeanne D Arch 02-Jun-21 08:18 AM

this is an easy vamp win

cult and wolfpack will join tonight lol

Captain Luffy None of the people who claimed or were exposed

Lord of Galaxy 02-Jun-21 10:45 AM

hngh

Jeanne D Arch cult and wolfpack will join tonight lol

Lord of Galaxy 02-Jun-21 10:45 AM

oh what? lmfao

cailihpartsa @Host can someone tell harper i wanna fuck her so bad it makes me look stupid

Lord of Galaxy 02-Jun-21 10:45 AM

wolves attacking leilaboo wow

sad

wolves are dead now

town has easy win ig

only issue obv is vera but vera would be caught quickly

who all are demonized?

nothing is pinned in #vampires

sinneD 02-Jun-21 10:57 AM

It's so satisfying is vamps have an organized playerlist

Which is not now

Vera stein bob ethan leila

So 2 more undeads

Lord of Galaxy 02-Jun-21 10:59 AM

3 no?

cult are attacking bob

wolf are doing leila and vera

right? (edited)

4 undead wow

but void won't survive too long

and tearsabre is already dead

oh wait bobloy is protected by his scared-wolfnes

mb

sinneD 02-Jun-21 11:06 AM

Yes

I just quickly scrolled up for a wolfpoll on phone

6h8ʍpꓛ 02-Jun-21 11:14 AM

No bob becomes undead

He was already hit once

6h8ʍpꓛ 02-Jun-21 11:35 AM

Wyatt (aw) attacked - Dead Bobloy (sw) attacked - undead Vera (cm) attacked - undead Leila (cit) attacked -undead

Lord of Galaxy 02-Jun-21 11:55 AM

oh i see

ttayW 02-Jun-21 12:31 PM

Honestly this game's been unfortunate

Overall liked how I played though.

Jeanne D Arch 02-Jun-21 01:48 PM

sad

Lord of Galaxy 02-Jun-21 04:42 PM

hmm the undead could convert all the waiters tonight i think

which makes chef basically an undead

wow

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/848581357281607732/849639094127558676 whaaaat?

Werewolves Bot B BOT 02-Jun-21 04:48 PM

Runner | Townsfolk Miscellaneous Basics Once per game, if attacked by a werewolf, the Runner shall escape. Details When they are attacked by a werewolf, the Runner will not die, but will be vulnerable to future attacks. If a Runner is targeted by any kill other than a werewolf kill, they will die the first time. Runners are informed that they were attacked. If a Runner evades a wolfpack kill, the wolfpack is told their target ran away. If a Runner evades a kill from a wolf outside of the pack, that wolf is informed instead.

Lord of Galaxy 02-Jun-21 04:49 PM

stein

why stein

Captain Luffy 02-Jun-21 06:06 PM

why does stein forget that a runner only escapes from wolves and not tk

Werewolves Bot B BOT 02-Jun-21 06:08 PM

Runner | Townsfolk Miscellaneous Basics Once per game, if attacked by a werewolf, the Runner shall escape. Details When they are attacked by a werewolf, the Runner will not die, but will be vulnerable to future attacks. If a Runner is targeted by any kill other than a werewolf kill, they will die the first time. Runners are informed that they were attacked. If a Runner evades a wolfpack kill, the wolfpack is told their target ran away. If a Runner evades a kill from a wolf outside of the pack, that wolf is informed instead.

sinneD 02-Jun-21 06:37 PM

I don't think he forgot

He asked because of that reason

And it was a good question we dont even know the answer to

srehturk 02-Jun-21 06:41 PM

its an edge case which we dont have a set order for

yerfillag-ot-stibboh-gnitsoptihs 02-Jun-21 06:43 PM

ive not been paying attention to this game at all since i died in it, can someone give me a recap of whats happened so far?

Captain Luffy 02-Jun-21 06:59 PM

Wolves are being lynched and killed a lot, but wokves are hoping to catch up to town by turning them undead fast enough

Wolves and undead are cooperating

Captain Luffy 02-Jun-21 09:34 PM

they should be going after mojo (oracle) instead of prophet (huntress)

Captain Luffy 02-Jun-21 09:51 PM

and i think void is his current target?

though if he gets demonized its no issue

6h8ʍpꓛ 02-Jun-21 10:08 PM

Yeah going for huntress is kinda a troll move even if you suspect she's a town target

Jeanne D Arch 03-Jun-21 10:40 AM

LOl vera

sinneD 03-Jun-21 10:43 AM

yep

vera sus

6h8ʍpꓛ 03-Jun-21 12:33 PM

watching turtle is painful rn

6h8ʍpꓛ 03-Jun-21 01:12 PM

Nvm he turned it around

Jeanne D Arch 03-Jun-21 01:17 PM

~~is this why vamps are negatively voted~~

~~in the role survey~~

Jeanne D Arch 03-Jun-21 01:39 PM

lol why time

Lord of Galaxy 03-Jun-21 02:11 PM

the vamps are dead

oh well

looks like it's pretty much over for the underworld

but they'll do a lot of damage before they go

Werewolves Bot B BOT 03-Jun-21 02:42 PM

Alive Players | Total: 16

️ - Ts (@sT)

- Vera (@areV) ▪️ - Ethan. (@.nahtE)

- harperette (@ettereprah)

- Bobloy (@yolboB)

- Prophet (@tehporP)

- Jayanna (@annayaJ)

- Leilaboo (@oobalieL)

- Orctin (@nitcrO)

️ - Time (@emiT)

- Le Héron (@noréH eL)

- Døra (@arøD)

‍

- MatMeistress (@ssertsieMtaM)

- Mojo Jojo (@ojoJ ojoM)

- Steinator (@rotanietS)

- Mr. Turtle (@eltruT .rM) (edited)

Lord of Galaxy 03-Jun-21 02:42 PM

8 to 9

they could yet win if they're very careful

6h8ʍpꓛ 03-Jun-21 02:54 PM

Well a miss lynch on time will help

Then if they get heron and jay to attack eachother

That converts heron and takes another town

It'll defo be close

Lord of Galaxy 03-Jun-21 03:02 PM

hmmm that'd be weird though, since then ts would have to join the pack, and the only way they'd convince him to do that is if they tell him everyone is undead

Werewolves Bot B BOT 03-Jun-21 03:02 PM

Clairvoyant Fox | Werewolf Investigative Basics Each day, the Clairvoyant Fox may investigate one player, and the results will be known to both them and the Wolfpack. Once per game, the Clairvoyant Fox may alternatively join the wolfpack as a regular wolf. Details Each day, the Clairvoyant Fox may either investigate one player or choose to join the wolfpack. When the Clairvoyant Fox investigates a player they see that player's role. The investigation is affected by weak disguises and obstructions. If the Clairvoyant Fox survives the day, the result of the investigation is announced to them as well as to the wolfpack at the start of the night. The wolfpack only sees the result and that it's from a Clairvoyant Fox - they don't know who was checked. The Clairvoyant Fox and wolfpack do not know each other's identities, as the Clairvoyant Fox is not a lycan, nor a member of the wolfpack. If the Clairvoyant Fox chooses to join the wolfpack, they may not investigate that day, and will lose their power as they will become a regular wolf. Joining the wolfpack is an immediate ability and investigating a player is an end effect.

Lord of Galaxy hmmm that'd be weird though, since then ts would have to join the pack, and the only way they'd convince him to do that is if they tell him everyone is undead

6h8ʍpꓛ 03-Jun-21 03:19 PM

why does ts have to join the pack?

Lord of Galaxy 03-Jun-21 03:19 PM

how will wolves kill with only undeads?

6h8ʍpꓛ 03-Jun-21 03:20 PM

they don't need to

well

I don't see wolves winning this

this is really undead vs town at this point

unfortunately ts didn't get demonised and will be left behind

Lord of Galaxy 03-Jun-21 03:21 PM

poor ts

ts would eventually get suspicious ig, but by then it'd be too late

or would it

6h8ʍpꓛ 03-Jun-21 03:23 PM

Well if he joins wp rn he would hold 50% of wp vote power but he'd basically be on his own once heron gets turned

Lord of Galaxy 03-Jun-21 03:23 PM

if jayanna dies the tk are all finished right?

6h8ʍpꓛ 03-Jun-21 03:23 PM

yeah Jay is the last one

Lord of Galaxy 03-Jun-21 03:24 PM

well well

6h8ʍpꓛ 03-Jun-21 03:24 PM

then towns only death tool is lynch

Lord of Galaxy 03-Jun-21 03:24 PM

they can take out jayanna

and then go for the macho

if undead can convince heron to go for macho after killing jayanna, then it'd be quite easy to win for them as town would lack mayor

and chef is basically undead now

6h8ʍpꓛ 03-Jun-21 03:25 PM

true

plus mayor is switching to < 15

so will have that extra vote

Lord of Galaxy 03-Jun-21 03:26 PM

exactly

and the undead need him out before that

it'd also throw town in a bit of a disarray

Werewolves Bot B BOT 03-Jun-21 03:27 PM

Alive Players | Total: 16

️ - Ts (@sT)

- Vera (@areV) ▪️ - Ethan. (@.nahtE)

- harperette (@ettereprah)

- Bobloy (@yolboB)

- Prophet (@tehporP)

- Jayanna (@annayaJ)

- Leilaboo (@oobalieL)

- Orctin (@nitcrO)

️ - Time (@emiT)

- Le Héron (@noréH eL)

- Døra (@arøD)

‍

- MatMeistress (@ssertsieMtaM)

- Mojo Jojo (@ojoJ ojoM)

- Steinator (@rotanietS)

- Mr. Turtle (@eltruT .rM) (edited)

Lord of Galaxy 03-Jun-21 03:27 PM

if the time lynch goes through

then town are pretty much dead

6h8ʍpꓛ 03-Jun-21 03:28 PM

yeah, I have to say though it's been a really good win by the undead if they make it through

having one vamp suicide so early

Lord of Galaxy 03-Jun-21 03:28 PM

yea

this game is still alive anyways

Jeanne D Arch 03-Jun-21 06:26 PM

why is time even being lynched

what even is the reasoning

MrM 03-Jun-21 06:28 PM

That he's undead, its been festering since he didn't copy the reporter results

Jeanne D Arch 03-Jun-21 06:31 PM

huh

weird reasoning

MrM 03-Jun-21 06:31 PM

Prophet pretty much sold it to town earlier after he turned

#proorc has most of it iirc

Lord of Galaxy 03-Jun-21 07:21 PM

lmao

emiT 03-Jun-21 10:02 PM

Fucking called it

I was onto them

MrM That he's undead, its been festering since he didn't copy the reporter results

emiT 03-Jun-21 10:03 PM

I didn’t copy it how reporter normally does

So they used that as an excuse

Time to search my name

I’m not mad about the undead killing me but

Prophet used mega

Meta*

Also I'm fairly certain Time was lying about not knowing the copy paste thing because after he said he asked hosts about it, I asked, then I got my answer and asked if he had his, and he said no

So town lynched me because they thought I was lying about waiting on hosts

11/10

K went past the point I was relevant

Vera masterclass

MrM 03-Jun-21 10:17 PM

Yeah town had sus'd her yesterday and didn't do the kill she wanted, but it was too late when they could get Ethan & Prophet that night. Keeping Jayanna isolated worked out so well for her. (edited)

emiT 03-Jun-21 10:18 PM

The only thing I’m slightly mad about is the reporter thing

MrM 03-Jun-21 10:18 PM

I kinda read it as just vampire-induced paranoid to begin with (edited)

emiT 03-Jun-21 10:18 PM

Which was used against me as meta as hosts hadn’t replied

And they had a reply

srehturk 03-Jun-21 10:19 PM

what thing, the ping in #reporter was responded to quickly?

emiT 03-Jun-21 10:21 PM

Yes but they got their one like insta so they thought I was lying

What can you do anyway

I did my best and had fun

So that’s a win for me

@cailihpartsa now I’m dead read our cc

I can’t wait for them to actually see I wasn’t lying

Who was lone wolf?

MrM 03-Jun-21 10:34 PM

Heron

Wolves were sure it was TearSaber though when he was lynched, kinda brought on the chaos

emiT 03-Jun-21 10:40 PM

Oh nice

Nobody really knows what’s happening this game

I love it

Gave me a chance to show what I can do

Captain Luffy 03-Jun-21 10:50 PM

@6h8ʍpꓛ y u voting in cult poll

6h8ʍpꓛ 03-Jun-21 10:52 PM

I didn't even realise

I must have pressed while scrolling and not realised, thanks for catching that

duolCztI 04-Jun-21 09:07 AM

hey tie

great game from town ngl

wolves got mad stuck

emiT Meta*

duolCztI 04-Jun-21 09:08 AM

how?

emiT 04-Jun-21 09:49 AM

They got a reply from hosts before I did so that meant i was lying to them

But it’s all good

6h8ʍpꓛ 04-Jun-21 10:35 AM

wolfpack aren't gonna kill

emiT They got a reply from hosts before I did so that meant i was lying to them

sinneD 04-Jun-21 10:56 AM

If that's the reason that seems kinda meta, ngl

Like, we dont reply instantly, and we might need time to discuss it first

But in general, #reporter info can be copied. The copy rule exists because it would be really easy to copy your SC with bot messages and info of the host messages to confirm your role (cant really be faked as easily because of the specific time and message of the host)

6h8ʍpꓛ 04-Jun-21 11:00 AM

the time difference isn't even that big

literally minutes

sinneD 04-Jun-21 11:00 AM

Oh yea that's nothing

6h8ʍpꓛ 04-Jun-21 11:27 AM

jay now dies!!

emiT Also I'm fairly certain Time was lying about not knowing the copy paste thing because after he said he asked hosts about it, I asked, then I got my answer and asked if he had his, and he said no

emiT 04-Jun-21 11:28 AM

They had said this

But that’s what I mean it’s like not a huge time difference

But I know for the next time

I should copy paste exactly how it is

But anyway

It doesn’t really matter

6h8ʍpꓛ jay now dies!!

emiT 04-Jun-21 11:30 AM

Rip jayanna

Not much I could do about the copy paste

Have to learn at some point

Anyway have nice day people

Werewolves Bot B BOT 04-Jun-21 11:56 AM

Alive Players | Total: 15

️ - Ts (@sT)

- Vera (@areV) ▪️ - Ethan. (@.nahtE)

- harperette (@ettereprah)

- Bobloy (@yolboB)

- Prophet (@tehporP)

- Jayanna (@annayaJ)

- Leilaboo (@oobalieL)

- Orctin (@nitcrO)

- Le Héron (@noréH eL)

- Døra (@arøD)

‍

- MatMeistress (@ssertsieMtaM)

- Mojo Jojo (@ojoJ ojoM)

- Steinator (@rotanietS)

- Mr. Turtle (@eltruT .rM) (edited)

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 11:58 AM

so it'll be 1 wolf vs 7 undead + chef vs 5 town (incl mayor) tomorrow

undead have practically won no?

emiT 04-Jun-21 11:58 AM

Yep

They have town siding with them

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 11:58 AM

if they lynch ts

they win

instantly

emiT 04-Jun-21 11:59 AM

If I didn’t die I would of tried to get Vera/Prophet dead

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 11:59 AM

so the game will be over in ~10 hours nice

emiT 04-Jun-21 11:59 AM

I even said to mat I don’t trust them before I died

I had a great game and had fun so it’s an easy win for me

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 12:00 PM

vamp did well

really well

considering one of them committed suicide (edited)

emiT 04-Jun-21 12:00 PM

Have to agree

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 12:01 PM

i wonder how powerful they'd have been if that hadn't happened

emiT 04-Jun-21 12:01 PM

We knew Bob was undead

Idk why we didn’t lynch him

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 12:02 PM

kek

emiT 04-Jun-21 12:02 PM

Hello jayanna

Welcome to the death zone

https://tenor.com/view/inazuma-eleven-ie11-last-death-zone-power-kick-soccer-gif-14286361

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 12:03 PM

why hasn't jayanna died yet

emiT 04-Jun-21 12:03 PM

Give hosts time

They are typing

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 12:04 PM

but they usually do the kill before the story

emiT 04-Jun-21 12:04 PM

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 12:06 PM

welcome now

6h8ʍpꓛ 04-Jun-21 12:08 PM

my discord is running very slow today

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 12:21 PM

F

MrM 04-Jun-21 12:28 PM

Poor town

emiT 04-Jun-21 12:38 PM

Town moss

Lose

Moss smh I hate autocorrect sometimes

emiT 04-Jun-21 12:49 PM

Lots hate vampire I see

It’s a nice role I wouldn’t want to see it go

But with the amount of hate it looks like it would go over it getting a nurf

MrM 04-Jun-21 12:51 PM

Town should look on the bright, side, at least they didn't make a suicidal cc to help wolves only for wolves to help undead with their death kills lol (edited)

emiT 04-Jun-21 12:52 PM

Realistically I should be pissed as I could of won with them

But I’m not, it was a nice play by all of them

MrM 04-Jun-21 12:54 PM

Yup they did really well, almost overplayed it with pushing the Assassin to kill someone silly and ending up with the second vamp getting hit, but they had enough demonised by then that it didn't matter

emiT 04-Jun-21 12:56 PM

Well deserved win

All the pieces came together for them

Shame I was too late noticing

Ts suggesting gamethrowing for points

It’s no different from me suggesting why don’t vamps claim and turn us all

Why does Harper think we hate her

At this point angry town should do what I did and leave for a little

Cool down

Jeanne D Arch 04-Jun-21 01:37 PM

Idk i feel like vamp has the highest win rate amongst solos

Thats saying a lot

6h8ʍpꓛ 04-Jun-21 01:40 PM

I feel like ome of the problems with vampire is that it doesn't win by being the best faction, it just has to not be the worst (edited)

The whole revealing saga that happened this game where people put themselves in the spotlight made demonises really easy to pull off, despite being one vampire down

emiT 04-Jun-21 01:49 PM

Vamp could be given a limit of demonises

Or more roles become immune

Or even make a vampire hunter like role

Where if a vampire visits them, they die/if hunter visits them they die

I wish ts would stop talking about points

“but that's the point of the game” where has it been said the point of the game is to get points?

Nowhere public

MrM 04-Jun-21 01:53 PM

I'm not a fan of points / rankings at all, fun > win > nothing else really

I've been resisting the idea of having something like that over on Orc's server (edited)

emiT 04-Jun-21 01:55 PM

Ts has even said he’s throwing for points

emiT Town moss

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 01:59 PM

lmfao yes, town moss

emiT 04-Jun-21 01:59 PM

If you guys solely care about points what’s the point

Because ts is doing anything rn to get points

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 02:00 PM

it doesn't even matter?

whatever ts or anyone else does

the undead have the numbers to lynch ts

and then they are always gonna be the biggest faction

because of chef

emiT 04-Jun-21 02:01 PM

my point is he’s openly said he would throw for more points

MrM I'm not a fan of points / rankings at all, fun > win > nothing else really

6h8ʍpꓛ 04-Jun-21 02:01 PM

I feel like the rankings and stuff are fine when its like "oh cool this is a thing" but when games turn from having fun to how can i squeeze out the most points that when the ranking stuff becomes bleh

emiT 04-Jun-21 02:02 PM

Exactly

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 02:02 PM

as long as undead realise they need to kill ts, it's enough

emiT 04-Jun-21 02:02 PM

Which they are

Vera knows that’s what needs to happen

6h8ʍpꓛ I feel like the rankings and stuff are fine when its like "oh cool this is a thing" but when games turn from having fun to how can i squeeze out the most points that when the ranking stuff becomes bleh

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 02:02 PM

that is not possible realistically, unless rankings are removed entirely

6h8ʍpꓛ I feel like the rankings and stuff are fine when its like "oh cool this is a thing" but when games turn from having fun to how can i squeeze out the most points that when the ranking stuff becomes bleh

MrM 04-Jun-21 02:03 PM

Yeah that makes sense, agreed

emiT Vera knows that’s what needs to happen

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 02:03 PM

then the game can be ended rn

6h8ʍpꓛ 04-Jun-21 02:03 PM

I mean it would be technically possible if only a few peeps knew how points were allocated, and then just kept it to themselves

6h8ʍpꓛ I mean it would be technically possible if only a few peeps knew how points were allocated, and then just kept it to themselves

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 02:03 PM

still makes people want to get points (edited)

6h8ʍpꓛ 04-Jun-21 02:03 PM

But "We should do this to get the most points" should never be an argument point

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 02:04 PM

but that's not how people are

emiT 04-Jun-21 02:04 PM

Ts is doing it rn

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 02:04 PM

if points exist, people always want them

emiT 04-Jun-21 02:04 PM

Hes said he will kill himself for more points

Lord of Galaxy still makes people want to get points (edited)

6h8ʍpꓛ 04-Jun-21 02:04 PM

Yeah,.but if they don't know how to get points they can't try to play specifically for them and just try to play well/for fun

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 02:04 PM

well then people who do know are at an advantage

emiT 04-Jun-21 02:05 PM

Should just be done as win is x amount lose is x amount

Maybe have like a best player points

6h8ʍpꓛ 04-Jun-21 02:05 PM

Like If the concenus was just "Play better -> get more points" then itd be okay

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 02:05 PM

but what's "play better"?

emiT 04-Jun-21 02:05 PM

What vamps did

Tactics

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 02:05 PM

if some people know what gives points and others don't, then they have an unfair advantage

emiT 04-Jun-21 02:06 PM

Like me

I didn’t know there was a point system

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 02:06 PM

and ts of all people will always know how points work, seeing as he's the one that designs and maintains it

i'd be the second in understanding it

is this fundamentally even solvable?

emiT 04-Jun-21 02:09 PM

Team Win. N0 Death MVP/PotG Maybe one for dying n0 x amount of times too (edited)

6h8ʍpꓛ 04-Jun-21 02:09 PM

Yeah but that's the nature of all systems where the maker also uses the system. The maker is going to have a better understanding of how to get ahead mosttimes (not always but usually) But i think when you're argument boils down to "You shouldnt do this because you get less points" even though the play doesn't necessarily worsen the game state for the win con of the person there's an issue

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 02:09 PM

if you have a pure win/lose system, people want to win irrespective of anything

emiT 04-Jun-21 02:10 PM

Add a gamethrow - points too

Lord of Galaxy is this fundamentally even solvable?

6h8ʍpꓛ 04-Jun-21 02:10 PM

Without moving to an entirely subjective scoring system i don't think so as there will always be the check box criteria of "if i do this, i will get more points" but then entirely subjective points also has its issues

emiT 04-Jun-21 02:10 PM

Stops that from happening

I don’t see the points getting removed

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 02:10 PM

entirely subjective basically leaves it to the GMs to determine to a high accuracy how well a player played

idt that's possible

6h8ʍpꓛ 04-Jun-21 02:11 PM

Exactly, its one of its issues. Both methods has their pros and cons

emiT 04-Jun-21 02:11 PM

Win 100 points Lose 50 points Game throw - 150 points

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 02:11 PM

the only real solution is to not have points at all

the problem is that the moment you have a points system, some losses are worse than others

emiT 04-Jun-21 02:13 PM

Doesn’t help when we can’t see said point system

And ts will have it someone he can see

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 02:13 PM

and the moment you add in ranks it can get worse as people would be more inclined to kill someone above them than below

emiT 04-Jun-21 02:14 PM

What Ts is doing makes ww not fun

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 02:15 PM

but that itself is subjective no?

emiT 04-Jun-21 02:24 PM

At the moment the system is rigged to those with admin perms

I’ve not once seen these points

Until Ts talked about them

annayaJ 04-Jun-21 02:26 PM

Hi

emiT 04-Jun-21 02:26 PM

Either way after this points need to be reworked

Hi jayanna

annayaJ Hi

6h8ʍpꓛ 04-Jun-21 02:27 PM

Hey scum

emiT 04-Jun-21 02:27 PM

You missed undead out and ts talk about throwing for points

annayaJ 04-Jun-21 02:28 PM

Undead out?

Oh public reveal

Are all vamps dead

Or is ethan vamp

MrM 04-Jun-21 02:29 PM

No it was TearSaber & Void

All demonised are undead & with chef they have majority

annayaJ 04-Jun-21 02:30 PM

Oh? Tear wasnt wolf or runner??

emiT 04-Jun-21 02:30 PM

Vamps dead

MrM 04-Jun-21 02:30 PM

Nope, he was the vamp waiter. Wolves pretty much combusted thinking he was the LW

annayaJ 04-Jun-21 02:31 PM

Well

Vamps died so early (edited)

And they still won

6 undead damn

emiT 04-Jun-21 02:36 PM

What SP mean

annayaJ 04-Jun-21 02:38 PM

Solo power?

This game made me sad

emiT 04-Jun-21 02:43 PM

Oh I’m only mad at prophet telling everyone I’m not to be trusted as hosts hadn’t replied when he got a reply and Ts throwing for points

Well not even mad

Jeanne D Arch 04-Jun-21 02:43 PM

jay u shouldvve realized vera was undead cuz she didnt vote on cult poll

undead private polls dont count

but theres nothing much u can do anyway

other than not listening to ur undead cult

emiT 04-Jun-21 02:45 PM

Undead can be countered if you pay attention

annayaJ 04-Jun-21 02:45 PM

I had a feeling she was

Thats why i made a cc with mat

But

That fidnt go anywhere lol

Didnt

emiT 04-Jun-21 02:46 PM

I even said to mat I don’t trust her

Jeanne D Arch 04-Jun-21 02:46 PM

this is why people hate vamps

as a role

annayaJ 04-Jun-21 02:46 PM

I like infected wolf

It happens early

And once

Jeanne D Arch 04-Jun-21 02:46 PM

so much effort to keep info from leaking and nah screw that vamps getting all that

annayaJ 04-Jun-21 02:46 PM

Add multiple infected wolves

Better thsn vamp

emiT 04-Jun-21 02:47 PM

From this game there’s two things to look at

Vamps and the points

annayaJ 04-Jun-21 02:47 PM

It felt like whoever got attacked would just become undead

Jeanne D Arch 04-Jun-21 02:48 PM

i think one way to slightly nerf vampteam is by publicly announcing how many were turned into undead

every night end

idk tho

emiT 04-Jun-21 02:48 PM

Or limit their numbers

Jeanne D Arch 04-Jun-21 02:49 PM

then theyll never become majority ig?

actually nvm

they can be during game end

lmao nobodys lynching leila

mat didnt realize undead has maj huh

emiT 04-Jun-21 02:50 PM

Nope

Before I died I knew it was over

annayaJ 04-Jun-21 02:51 PM

Time

emiT 04-Jun-21 02:52 PM

They made a new trusted

To make town turn on me

annayaJ 04-Jun-21 02:53 PM

At least undead knew how to work with their options

emiT 04-Jun-21 02:53 PM

Exactly

They smashed it

6h8ʍpꓛ 04-Jun-21 02:55 PM

I think a good fix might be to limit the number of active demonisations

So rather than just setting and forgetting vamps have to be more conscious about their demonises

annayaJ 04-Jun-21 02:56 PM

As in demonisation wears of in 2 nights ?

Off*

emiT 04-Jun-21 02:57 PM

I think more like let’s say 5 is the amount of demonised players can be around at once

When it drops to 4 they can make some demonised again

Which is what I was thinking

6h8ʍpꓛ 04-Jun-21 02:58 PM

Yeah something like that, so they don't just mindlessly spam demons everywhere and just wait, they have to more actively predict where kills are going to happen

tsiMdioV 04-Jun-21 02:58 PM

yay they're winning

6h8ʍpꓛ 04-Jun-21 02:58 PM

It adds a sense of agency to the role rather than just being an inevitable clock

annayaJ 04-Jun-21 02:59 PM

Id prefer that than a limit, limiting doesnt sound very significant

6h8ʍpꓛ 04-Jun-21 03:00 PM

I persoanlly would feel alot better knowing that i lost to vamps who accurately predicted each night with good game sense and planning, than to "oh youre converted lol okay"

6h8ʍpꓛ I persoanlly would feel alot better knowing that i lost to vamps who accurately predicted each night with good game sense and planning, than to "oh youre converted lol okay"

tsiMdioV 04-Jun-21 03:06 PM

Thats what happened right? Once I was able to get a few undead in, they did a lot of the work manipulating both town and wolves into killing the right people

Jeanne D Arch 04-Jun-21 03:06 PM

wow i agree

tsiMdioV 04-Jun-21 03:06 PM

I'm pretty sure no one was left demonized when I died

6h8ʍpꓛ 04-Jun-21 03:06 PM

There were a couple

Or maybe just heron

tsiMdioV 04-Jun-21 03:07 PM

waiitt, doesn't demonization wear off after all vamps are dead?

Werewolves Bot B BOT 04-Jun-21 03:07 PM

Vampire | Solo Power - Underworld Team Basics The Vampire wins by secretly turning all the living players into undead. The Vampire demonizes players; if a demonized player is killed in the night, they will instead turn into an undead. Details Each night, the Vampire may demonize one player. On even numbered nights, the Vampire may demonize a second player. The target will not know about it by that time. Vampires cannot demonize themselves or other members of the underworld. When a demonized player is killed in the night, they will turn into an undead. The Vampire wins the game, along with the undead, if all players are either Vampire, dead or undead. If there are several Vampires, they work together. Demonizing a player is an immediate ability. If no members of the underworld channel remain, all demonized players are no longer demonized.

6h8ʍpꓛ 04-Jun-21 03:07 PM

But yeah your predictions were really good and it helped alot to swing the victory back in your favorite despite your teammate suiciding

Nope, just that no new llauers can be demonized

tsiMdioV 04-Jun-21 03:08 PM

If no members of the underworld channel remain, all demonized players are no longer demonized.

oh underworld channel

ohhh

6h8ʍpꓛ 04-Jun-21 03:08 PM

Members also include undead

Jeanne D Arch 04-Jun-21 03:08 PM

not vamps

tsiMdioV 04-Jun-21 03:08 PM

all undead have to be dead

Jeanne D Arch 04-Jun-21 03:08 PM

lol

tsiMdioV 04-Jun-21 03:08 PM

got it

Werewolves Bot B BOT 04-Jun-21 03:08 PM

Exorcist | Townsfolk Power | Limited Basics Each night, the Exorcist may remove negative effects from one player. Details Each night, the Exorcist can exorcise one player. All negative effects caused by solo roles are removed from the player and the Exorcist is informed which effects were removed. Players that have already been exorcised can not be exorcised again. The Exorcist can not cure players if they have changed role as the result of an effect, such as the Undead, but can still remove other possible effects the Undead has. The solo team who's effect is cured is informed about this. Negative Effects The following effects can be removed by the Exorcist: Enchanted - Flute Team Soulless - Hell Team Powdered - Pyro Team Demonized - Underworld Team Blessed - Heaven Team Tainted - Graveyard Team Sleepless - Nightmare Team Herded - Flock Team Infected/Contagious - Disease Team Frozen - Ice Royals Team

Jeanne D Arch 04-Jun-21 03:08 PM

shouldve had exorcist

6h8ʍpꓛ But yeah your predictions were really good and it helped alot to swing the victory back in your favorite despite your teammate suiciding

tsiMdioV 04-Jun-21 03:08 PM

yes that was really unfortunate

Jeanne D Arch shouldve had exorcist

tsiMdioV 04-Jun-21 03:09 PM

Isn't town and wolves' fault for completely ignoring the undead. They didn't do much-

Jeanne D Arch 04-Jun-21 03:09 PM

hmm true

6h8ʍpꓛ 04-Jun-21 03:09 PM

In fact they helped, they all revealed which made it super clear who was going to be night kileld

tsiMdioV 04-Jun-21 03:10 PM

yep lol

I want to heart this: https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/848581357281607732/850360112111419392

@sinneD can you tell them I ❤️'ed that message ^

because this is the most wholesome underworld I've ever seen

thank you XD

Jeanne D Arch 04-Jun-21 03:13 PM

lmao jack robinson

robin jackson

arent those basically solos that want each other die and survive

can town and ts outvote the undead or is that impossible

town and wolf i mean

Werewolves Bot B BOT 04-Jun-21 03:16 PM

Alive Players | Total: 14

️ - Ts (@sT)

- Vera (@areV) ▪️ - Ethan. (@.nahtE)

- harperette (@ettereprah)

- Bobloy (@yolboB)

- Prophet (@tehporP)

- Leilaboo (@oobalieL)

- Orctin (@nitcrO)

- Le Héron (@noréH eL)

- Døra (@arøD)

‍

- MatMeistress (@ssertsieMtaM)

- Mojo Jojo (@ojoJ ojoM)

- Steinator (@rotanietS)

- Mr. Turtle (@eltruT .rM) (edited)

Jeanne D Arch 04-Jun-21 03:17 PM

or tie i guess

but turtle is undead sided oof

tsiMdioV 04-Jun-21 03:17 PM

LMAO I just realised the wolfpack is just gone

Jeanne D Arch 04-Jun-21 03:17 PM

yeah why didnt ts just join tbh

he was out there for too long

tsiMdioV 04-Jun-21 03:17 PM

does Ts even know?

he knows right

Jeanne D Arch 04-Jun-21 03:17 PM

he smart so

tsiMdioV 04-Jun-21 03:18 PM

you also just called him dumb for not joining sooner (edited)

@Host #undead is supposed to be undead right (edited)

6h8ʍpꓛ 04-Jun-21 03:20 PM

Yes

Jeanne D Arch 04-Jun-21 03:30 PM

i didnt call him dumb what

i just asked why didnt he just join

tsiMdioV 04-Jun-21 03:35 PM

I felt like it was implied

Jeanne D Arch yeah why didnt ts just join tbh

tsiMdioV 04-Jun-21 03:49 PM

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/848873726707761172/850341581524303892

tsiMdioV 04-Jun-21 05:19 PM

someone please enlighten orctin #sweetness

emiT 04-Jun-21 05:53 PM

Chef is on the list of roles to change Why?

emiT 04-Jun-21 06:02 PM

“now that we once again know that everyone hates vamp we can use other solos instead

” I don’t Vera doesn’t

It just could do with changes to make others enjoy it and to stop this from happening more

Jeanne D Arch 04-Jun-21 06:07 PM

lol

emiT “now that we once again know that everyone hates vamp we can use other solos instead

” I don’t Vera doesn’t

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 06:09 PM

me neither

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 06:57 PM

hiiiiii

emiT Chef is on the list of roles to change Why?

sT 04-Jun-21 06:57 PM

I didnt put it there

emiT 04-Jun-21 06:57 PM

Well gg guys

Vamps killed it

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 06:58 PM

hey tell me how bad i did

the ususal

emiT 04-Jun-21 06:58 PM

I think you did well

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 06:58 PM

you did well harper

dont be so negative

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 06:59 PM

no i did badly

i lost

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 06:59 PM

losing doesnt mean you did bad

dora also lost and was great

emiT 04-Jun-21 06:59 PM

Losing doesn’t = you did bad

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 06:59 PM

It wasn't most of towns fault

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 06:59 PM

but i still did bad

emiT 04-Jun-21 06:59 PM

You couldn’t do anything when the trusted town were turned

ettereprah but i still did bad

emiT 04-Jun-21 06:59 PM

How

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 06:59 PM

i trusted people i wasn't supposed to trust

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 07:00 PM

it was the fact stein could control both cult and wolves that screwed everyone

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:00 PM

:D

ettereprah i trusted people i wasn't supposed to trust

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 07:00 PM

who?

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:00 PM

i had a big chunk of power

.nahtE who?

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 07:00 PM

all the undead people

probably laughing at me the whole time

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:00 PM

no?

MrM 04-Jun-21 07:01 PM

Most of them turned pretty late

emiT At the moment the system is rigged to those with admin perms

sT 04-Jun-21 07:01 PM

how so

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 07:01 PM

You trusted undead while they were town

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 07:01 PM

but then didn't stop when they were undead

sT how so

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:01 PM

We can’t see the point system

sT 04-Jun-21 07:01 PM

you can

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:01 PM

like every turn except for me happened from n3 onwards

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 07:01 PM

you can

I can see it

sT 04-Jun-21 07:01 PM

everyone can

sT BOT 04-Jun-21 07:01 PM

~~url~~

Werewolves Bot B BOT 04-Jun-21 07:01 PM

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emiT 04-Jun-21 07:01 PM

What channel

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 07:01 PM

It's a sheet in #announcements

sT 04-Jun-21 07:01 PM

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IVgVdjChyEnbiGS6LJrgVmtfaZLPnj2NouJPSy-Em0s/edit#gid=0 (edited)

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:01 PM

its a google spreadsheet

sT 04-Jun-21 07:02 PM

I also always post screenshots

srehturk 04-Jun-21 07:02 PM

lol me ticking it does nothing

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:02 PM

Oh wow in #announcements that’s super clear

sT 04-Jun-21 07:02 PM

and I was made admin like 3 games ago

ettereprah but then didn't stop when they were undead

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 07:02 PM

comments on this?

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:02 PM

@Captain Luffy well vamps did win in the end

well undeads

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 07:03 PM

Yeah

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 07:03 PM

who'd have thought

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 07:03 PM

Robbed me of deserved victory

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:03 PM

You didn’t even play

sT 04-Jun-21 07:03 PM

I've never done so badly in a game before

but I didn't want to play

Captain Luffy Robbed me of deserved victory

arøD 04-Jun-21 07:03 PM

Facts

sT 04-Jun-21 07:04 PM

I should've signed out after the game was reset

arøD 04-Jun-21 07:04 PM

You had it in the bag before restart

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 07:04 PM

i did worse probably

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 07:04 PM

Vamps can only lose if u kill them early

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 07:04 PM

idk what role u were tho

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:04 PM

i mean a vamp died early

sT 04-Jun-21 07:04 PM

I was CF

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:04 PM

We were talking on how to fix vamps

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 07:04 PM

what's cf?

Werewolves Bot B BOT 04-Jun-21 07:04 PM

Clairvoyant Fox | Werewolf Investigative Basics Each day, the Clairvoyant Fox may investigate one player, and the results will be known to both them and the Wolfpack. Once per game, the Clairvoyant Fox may alternatively join the wolfpack as a regular wolf. Details Each day, the Clairvoyant Fox may either investigate one player or choose to join the wolfpack. When the Clairvoyant Fox investigates a player they see that player's role. The investigation is affected by weak disguises and obstructions. If the Clairvoyant Fox survives the day, the result of the investigation is announced to them as well as to the wolfpack at the start of the night. The wolfpack only sees the result and that it's from a Clairvoyant Fox - they don't know who was checked. The Clairvoyant Fox and wolfpack do not know each other's identities, as the Clairvoyant Fox is not a lycan, nor a member of the wolfpack. If the Clairvoyant Fox chooses to join the wolfpack, they may not investigate that day, and will lose their power as they will become a regular wolf. Joining the wolfpack is an immediate ability and investigating a player is an end effect.

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:04 PM

and another not much long after

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 07:04 PM

He has enough time

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:05 PM

enough to get enough demonised

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 07:05 PM

Had*

Werewolves Bot B BOT 04-Jun-21 07:05 PM

✅ Attempting to promote you, sT!

sT 04-Jun-21 07:05 PM

@emiT here's your data

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 07:05 PM

fuck vamps take them out the game

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:05 PM

well i did organise vamps aswell

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 07:05 PM

Vamps too strong and too much impact over the game

‍♂️

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:06 PM

well vamps go one in 2 ways

die early

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 07:06 PM

@sT can i have my data pls

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:06 PM

or die late

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 07:06 PM

Ive never lost as solo before

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:06 PM

it was my first win in a while

sT @emiT here's your data

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:06 PM

Didn’t deserve angel win

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:06 PM

win is win

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:06 PM

But what else could I do as my first time seeing the role

ettereprah @sT can i have my data pls

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 07:07 PM

so that i can see how bad i do etc (edited)

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:07 PM

no matter how deserved or undeserved it is

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:07 PM

And being solo

ettereprah @sT can i have my data pls

sT 04-Jun-21 07:07 PM

I doubt this helps

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 07:07 PM

Do u remember ur baker game, u helped me so much when i was ridinghood

Time

sT 04-Jun-21 07:08 PM

btw since the public sheet doesn't have the data for old games revealed you should be able to make a copy of the rating sheet to access all the sheets on it

Captain Luffy Do u remember ur baker game, u helped me so much when i was ridinghood

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:08 PM

Yes and everyone gave me shit for outing you

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 07:08 PM

oh great i have equal wins and losses

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:08 PM

that aint bad

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 07:08 PM

thought i'd have more losses

though ig u can still win without doing anything

sT 04-Jun-21 07:09 PM

well Inactive is a separate result

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:09 PM

and a draw

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 07:09 PM

like active without doing anything uselful

sT 04-Jun-21 07:09 PM

Draw is a pseudo loss

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 07:09 PM

i'm good at that

ettereprah like active without doing anything uselful

sT 04-Jun-21 07:09 PM

yeah that's possible

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:09 PM

The wolf one I died like first

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 07:10 PM

my points are terrible probably

what's a good score?

for a game

MrM 04-Jun-21 07:10 PM

Well only useful thing I did all game was die... and it wasn't even useful for my actual team in the end

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:10 PM

i mean your average is about 1.6 points per game

arøD 04-Jun-21 07:10 PM

MrM MVP

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:10 PM

and you are 18th in the ranks

rotanietS i mean your average is about 1.6 points per game

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 07:11 PM

how bad is that?

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:11 PM

ww silber is good

you are above someone like ts

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:11 PM

So how are points even given?

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:11 PM

Jayanna

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 07:11 PM

i only have silver because i play a lot

ts doesn't play a lot

jayanna memes harder than i do

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:11 PM

and an average would end up being worse for you

ettereprah what's a good score?

sT 04-Jun-21 07:12 PM

2

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:12 PM

so to have an average of arounf 1.6 is decent

i mean 2 is ww plat

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 07:12 PM

yea i have 3 games with a 2

ettereprah i only have silver because i play a lot

sT 04-Jun-21 07:12 PM

playing a lot doesn't boost your rating

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:12 PM

averafe wise

sT 04-Jun-21 07:12 PM

however having played less games decreases your rating

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:12 PM

^

sT 04-Jun-21 07:12 PM

above 10 games your rating is almost equal to points per game

above 20 the difference should be on the third decimal and entirely irrelevant

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 07:13 PM

idk what you're saying anymore lmao

sT 04-Jun-21 07:13 PM

for 10 games it's like a difference on the second decimal I think

your rating is basically total amount of points divided through amount of games played

so your average points

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 07:13 PM

cool

sT 04-Jun-21 07:13 PM

the value is decreased a bit if you have not played a lot of games

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:13 PM

#💫fren_goodbye for jay slander

sT 04-Jun-21 07:13 PM

at 10 games that step is basically insiginificant

above 20 games it's actually irrelevant

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 07:14 PM

what was my one "hard role"

sT 04-Jun-21 07:14 PM

Assassin

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 07:14 PM

i have 3 games where i got a score above good

if that doesn't tell you i'm bad idk what does lol

sT 04-Jun-21 07:15 PM

1 is decent, 2 is good, >2.5 is almost impossible

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 07:15 PM

ok why do i have a 2.51 on one of my games then (edited)

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:16 PM

cause you probs did exceptionally well that game

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 07:16 PM

and i haven't had above a 1 in ages

rotanietS cause you probs did exceptionally well that game

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 07:16 PM

how

sT 04-Jun-21 07:16 PM

below 1 is a loss basically

I dont think losses can be above 1

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 07:16 PM

one of them was a win tho

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:16 PM

leila getting close to 50 games played

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:17 PM

0.11 is probably as I dead like first

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 07:17 PM

you know me i physically cannot play well

sT 04-Jun-21 07:17 PM

a win below 1 is pretty bad

you probably died very early

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 07:17 PM

maybe

or was just me

in general

being me

sT 04-Jun-21 07:18 PM

these are the factors for this seasons

ettereprah being me

sT 04-Jun-21 07:18 PM

that's not how it works

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:18 PM

Oh I remember the journalist game you guys killed me because kruthers made his cc’s in private so I didn’t know their name theme

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 07:18 PM

thanks ts

sT these are the factors for this seasons

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 07:18 PM

what does any of this mean

cailihpartsa @Host can someone tell harper i wanna fuck her so bad it makes me look stupid

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 07:18 PM

uwu

sT 04-Jun-21 07:19 PM

Subjective points are 17% of the rating, team alive % and dead/alive is 25% each, role points is 33%

Jeanne D Arch 04-Jun-21 07:19 PM

Lmao

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 07:19 PM

the only good thing i did in this game is not say my role

Jeanne D Arch Lmao

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:19 PM

hi arch

sT 04-Jun-21 07:19 PM

Role points are combined from role survivability (66%) and team size (33%)

Jeanne D Arch 04-Jun-21 07:19 PM

Ni

Ho

**HI

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:20 PM

Ni ho

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:20 PM

Ni Ho HI

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 07:20 PM

ni

Jeanne D Arch 04-Jun-21 07:20 PM

>:((((

emiT Ni ho

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 07:20 PM

almost at nihao

that would've worked

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:20 PM

Niko niko ni

sT Subjective points are 17% of the rating, team alive % and dead/alive is 25% each, role points is 33%

sT 04-Jun-21 07:21 PM

so the objectives are: - survive as long as possible - have as many members of your team survive as possible - play as well as possible - have a role that is more highly rated (e.g. not undead) - have a small team

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 07:22 PM

over-analysation baby

sT 04-Jun-21 07:22 PM

influence on the last 2 is very limited

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:22 PM

#suggestions open when?

sT so the objectives are: - survive as long as possible - have as many members of your team survive as possible - play as well as possible - have a role that is more highly rated (e.g. not undead) - have a small team

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 07:22 PM

win as 2 team fp while everyone in said team survives?

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:23 PM

when all participant related roles are gone i guess

.nahtE win as 2 team fp while everyone in said team survives?

sT 04-Jun-21 07:24 PM

if a 2p FP team has both players survives that's one point (out of one) for TA% which in the final rating is 25%, which ends up as 0.625 (1*0.25*2.5)

(with 3 other point sources left)

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:25 PM

as dora died on the day the game would end does dora get 1 day dead or 0?

sT 04-Jun-21 07:25 PM

1

also it's phases dead

wait no

that was one game

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:25 PM

its days

sT 04-Jun-21 07:25 PM

it's days dead

yeah you are right

you can not get 0 days dead while dead

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:26 PM

Isn’t the game called days gone

arøD 04-Jun-21 07:29 PM

What’s the difference in days dead mean?

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:30 PM

when a day ends a full cycle is done

as n1 is the first official phase

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 07:31 PM

longer dead = less points

arøD 04-Jun-21 07:31 PM

Right so it just effects the amount of points I’d get?

Yeah

sT 04-Jun-21 07:31 PM

yeah

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 07:32 PM

which is why we said the ff should be shortened by 2 days using bread

chef bread

sT 04-Jun-21 07:32 PM

being dead for 1 extra day is a 0.0625 point difference

arøD 04-Jun-21 07:32 PM

How many points would I get for this one?

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 07:32 PM

there is host subjective

sT 04-Jun-21 07:32 PM

currently you get 0.33 but not everything has been done yet

arøD 04-Jun-21 07:32 PM

Okay cool

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 07:32 PM

so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

nice it coppied it twice

sT 04-Jun-21 07:33 PM

yeah there's still subjective ratings

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 07:33 PM

who decided the order of those lynches

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:33 PM

vera/me

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 07:34 PM

why that order?

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:34 PM

idk

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:34 PM

Saftey

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:34 PM

vera suggested that one

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 07:34 PM

was cdw the first to join the server?

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:34 PM

this server?

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 07:34 PM

his id on rankings is #001

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 07:34 PM

a wolf win is the only one where an ff is automatic and immediate death of everyone right?

sT 04-Jun-21 07:34 PM

uh

no

that's not defined anywhere

it's a Host decision thing?

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:34 PM

Marhjo made it, Ts joined shortly after, Then they asked me to join and i just mass invited everyone in here

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 07:34 PM

no I have seen a town ff before

S6G3

rotanietS Marhjo made it, Ts joined shortly after, Then they asked me to join and i just mass invited everyone in here

sT 04-Jun-21 07:35 PM

I made the original WWR server

sT that's not defined anywhere

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 07:35 PM

but that's how it's traditionally done iirc

sT 04-Jun-21 07:35 PM

yeah

I do it that way

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:35 PM

ff is when its obvious that a side wins

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 07:35 PM

it makes a lot of a difference on the points

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:35 PM

and we were 100% certain we won

sT 04-Jun-21 07:35 PM

because the whole having them slowly die phase by phase is unfair

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 07:35 PM

so it really should be defined

sT because the whole having them slowly die phase by phase is unfair

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 07:35 PM

i agree

srehturk 04-Jun-21 07:35 PM

wrong marhjo invited me (i think)

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 07:35 PM

just kill everyone at once

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 07:36 PM

how does it affect points? We were gonna lynch them in that order anyway

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 07:36 PM

why should some people get more points than others for this

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:36 PM

i mean i was the 3rd to join and sent mass invites

.nahtE how does it affect points? We were gonna lynch them in that order anyway

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 07:36 PM

the later they die, the more points they get

.nahtE how does it affect points? We were gonna lynch them in that order anyway

sT 04-Jun-21 07:36 PM

there already were issues with the Chef interaction stuff

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 07:36 PM

yeah

sT 04-Jun-21 07:36 PM

so the current FF is already kinda questionable

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 07:36 PM

chef interaction?

why?

sT 04-Jun-21 07:37 PM

chef can poison people

to end the game faster

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:37 PM

i mean dora deserved to die last xD

sT there already were issues with the Chef interaction stuff

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:37 PM

Ddint you say you didn’t know why chef needed to be changed?

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 07:37 PM

ah

right

emiT Ddint you say you didn’t know why chef needed to be changed?

sT 04-Jun-21 07:37 PM

I'm talking about this games FF and not the chef role

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 07:37 PM

The rule should probably be that the host arbitrarily fast forwards if there is a specific side that will win in a way that gives all players the most points possible

sT 04-Jun-21 07:37 PM

Regarding Chef: https://github.com/McTsts/Werewolves-Roles/issues/160

"currently chef is a little bit boring as a role i think" · Issue #...

"i think if the chef kill was end night, there'd be more inventive to poison food, because people wouldn't know chef had betrayed them" "as it is, poisoni...

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 07:38 PM

i agree

there's very little control you have

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:38 PM

yeah

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 07:38 PM

you're just relying on one of your waiters making it

and maybe hoping one of them asks you for food

and while you could do more than that

nobody actually eats chef food early game

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:39 PM

Ty cdw

Lord of Galaxy 04-Jun-21 07:39 PM

so it's useless

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:39 PM

I dont have perms to send it

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:40 PM

Kill Stein. YOLO

THAT WAS THE REASONING? LMAO

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:41 PM

I still don’t get the reason on me

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 07:41 PM

on lynching you?

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:41 PM

Yeah

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 07:42 PM

Because they were all already convinced you were turned undead by the wolf cub extra poll so it was easier for undeads to force the mislynch on you

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:42 PM

@tehporP FYI I didn’t have an answer when you didn’t

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 07:42 PM

the other options were like an undead or the cl we needed to turn one last person

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:43 PM

Did*

sT 04-Jun-21 07:44 PM

well I think I'm not gonna play for the rest of the season

emiT @tehporP FYI I didn’t have an answer when you didn’t

tehporP 04-Jun-21 07:44 PM

That's weird

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:44 PM

I got it 3 mins after you

sT well I think I'm not gonna play for the rest of the season

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:44 PM

enjoy your playing break ts

sT 04-Jun-21 07:45 PM

I've played 3 games this season which is the most I've ever played

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:45 PM

i just see they didnt talk much about me

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:45 PM

But that was enough for you to turn town on me

arøD 04-Jun-21 07:45 PM

Awww poor time

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:45 PM

For something I couldn’t control

arøD 04-Jun-21 07:45 PM

I tried!

I told them they were being paranoid

emiT For something I couldn’t control

sT 04-Jun-21 07:45 PM

what were you?

emiT But that was enough for you to turn town on me

tehporP 04-Jun-21 07:45 PM

I turned town on you because I was undead ahahah

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:45 PM

i love how they questioned that i forgot about runner only being able to escape town kill

sT what were you?

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:45 PM

Runner reporter

sT 04-Jun-21 07:45 PM

ah

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:45 PM

I didn’t post reporter stuff as they all wanted

As I didn’t know I could copy paste it

sT I've played 3 games this season which is the most I've ever played

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 07:46 PM

+1 vip

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:46 PM

I did give the info tho

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:46 PM

reporter is the only channel you are allowed to copy everything from

sT 04-Jun-21 07:46 PM

vip is a different season

arøD 04-Jun-21 07:46 PM

It was sus but not a good reason to lynch you

sT 04-Jun-21 07:46 PM

V2 is kinda between S5 and S6

arøD It was sus but not a good reason to lynch you

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:46 PM

but enough to gett undeads the win xD

1

emiT I did give the info tho

tehporP 04-Jun-21 07:46 PM

I did it because I was in a different team

rotanietS reporter is the only channel you are allowed to copy everything from

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:46 PM

Not my fault as I’ve never been in a trusted nor been a reporter

tehporP I did it because I was in a different team

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:46 PM

Yeah I get that

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 07:46 PM

Ts payed 2, 4, 6

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:46 PM

understandable

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 07:47 PM

every even numbered game

sT 04-Jun-21 07:47 PM

copying from Reporter is not allowed?

technically

but copying the report doesn't confirm you usually

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:47 PM

^

sT 04-Jun-21 07:47 PM

you can copy things like that from anywhere

you can't copy huge chunks of SC or CC and stuff like that

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:47 PM

#rusted anyway

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 07:47 PM

if you post a message you haven't copied the entire sc tho

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:47 PM

That’s got the stuff I was in

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:47 PM

there was roasted

without you

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:48 PM

Yeah I know

It was clear when they stopped talking to me

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:48 PM

then they made one without vera and me

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:48 PM

And than all turned on me

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:48 PM

but came back to us aswell

rotanietS then they made one without vera and me

tehporP 04-Jun-21 07:48 PM

Actually that was originally just mine and orcs

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 07:48 PM

Did turtle only know 2 TV chefs?

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:48 PM

oh

lmao

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:48 PM

I have to say tho I did tell Kat I didn’t trust Vera and prophet

Mat

Autocorrect

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:49 PM

i think mat trusted prophet more than you

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 07:49 PM

#i_have_got_a_cake_to_bake #jamie_oliver #gordon_ramsey One of these is not like the others

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:50 PM

jamie oliver is fake

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 07:50 PM

yes chef cake to bake

well known chef

sT 04-Jun-21 07:51 PM

undead existing throws off T%

rotanietS jamie oliver is fake

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:51 PM

He also ran his restaurant chain into debt

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:52 PM

ngl i fully expect that when you are chef in a future game and an english person is your chef you will make the cc the great british bake off @.nahtE

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:52 PM

You mean waiter?

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:52 PM

yeah waiter

not chef

i feel like i did well (when i turned)

and after

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:53 PM

Also i got more cc’s day 1

I went past the limit before they made it

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:53 PM

oh it was you

lol

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:54 PM

Wdym it was me

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:54 PM

we were told someone made an extra cc

but not the name of that person

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:54 PM

rotanietS ngl i fully expect that when you are chef in a future game and an english person is your chef you will make the cc the great british bake off @.nahtE

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 07:54 PM

S6G3R had a 3 person brit waiter cc

me harp kruthers

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:55 PM

What do you guys think of the vamp change suggested #suggestions

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:55 PM

what? that it gets deleted?

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:56 PM

No

What I said

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:56 PM

ik

i just made a joke

i love how void was like: yay i'm winning

well they're

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:56 PM

They hadn’t checked game since they died I think

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:56 PM

while you discussed the role (edited)

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:57 PM

Rise to fame

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:57 PM

fuck me my brain switched off after the game ended

i used all brain power to make this win possible that i dont have any left anymore

emiT 04-Jun-21 07:58 PM

As I said many times you guys killed it

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 07:58 PM

Steins brain shrunk after this game

he used his brain juices

MrM 04-Jun-21 07:58 PM

Tends to happen if you're undead too long

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 07:58 PM

lol

also hi mrm :D

emiT What do you guys think of the vamp change suggested #suggestions

sT 04-Jun-21 07:59 PM

I dont really think that solves any of the problems people have with vampire

MrM 04-Jun-21 08:00 PM

Hi Stein, well played, that was a fun watch in the end

sT I dont really think that solves any of the problems people have with vampire

emiT 04-Jun-21 08:00 PM

What do people hate?

sT 04-Jun-21 08:00 PM

role changes

emiT 04-Jun-21 08:01 PM

They cry that it’s broken and that it’s changed

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 08:01 PM

MrM question why did wolves cc all the 1x roles and out themselves when the real 1x roles were all proven?

MrM 04-Jun-21 08:01 PM

don't ask me lol

emiT 04-Jun-21 08:01 PM

It fixes what they complain about by limiting the amount there is

sT 04-Jun-21 08:01 PM

it doesn't

emiT 04-Jun-21 08:01 PM

How not?

sT 04-Jun-21 08:01 PM

it limits it to a smaller scale, it doesn't fix it

MrM don't ask me lol

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 08:01 PM

you were one doing the ccing of a 1x role

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 08:01 PM

Yeah 1st stage Anger. 2nd stage resignation. 3rd stage salvaging. 4th stage Realization. 5th stage hope. 6th stage praying. 7th stage winning - that were my 7 stages of the game ever since i turned undead

sT 04-Jun-21 08:02 PM

and it's also not a helpful change at all because the role isn't flawed in theory

sT it limits it to a smaller scale, it doesn't fix it

emiT 04-Jun-21 08:02 PM

It stops the whole game being undead

sT 04-Jun-21 08:02 PM

yeah but that's not a good change

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 08:02 PM

ok here's the stages of me in a wws game

sT and it's also not a helpful change at all because the role isn't flawed in theory

emiT 04-Jun-21 08:02 PM

Than why do you and others complain it’s broken

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 08:02 PM

1st stage shit

ok done

sT 04-Jun-21 08:02 PM

I'm not complaining it's broken

the role is fine in theory

MrM 04-Jun-21 08:02 PM

Ok, so basically everyone assumed TeasSaber was the LW and thought we were f'ed, I did ask if he might have been Vamp waiter but that was thought unlikely

sT 04-Jun-21 08:02 PM

but playing with vamp isn't fun for a lot of people

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 08:02 PM

undead works if you kill someone until they are dead and don't just leave them

sT but playing with vamp isn't fun for a lot of people

emiT 04-Jun-21 08:02 PM

Than change it

sT 04-Jun-21 08:03 PM

your change doesn't change the issue

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 08:03 PM

like if lwo killed stein until he was dead

sT 04-Jun-21 08:03 PM

the role works in theory and a nerf doesn't change the mechanic, just makes it harder to win with

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 08:03 PM

lwo joined pack when i got attacked

MrM 04-Jun-21 08:03 PM

Then it was decided I'd cc macho, I was supposed to claim first but felt crappy that day

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 08:03 PM

so

they did need me to have a scum winning chance

MrM 04-Jun-21 08:03 PM

I kinda viewed it as a semi-suicide but I was cub so was kinda intending to get killed anyway

sT the role works in theory and a nerf doesn't change the mechanic, just makes it harder to win with

sT 04-Jun-21 08:03 PM

and even then the issue isn't really that a lot of people change

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 08:03 PM

unless heron attacked me n1

but that aint true

MrM 04-Jun-21 08:04 PM

Then why the other 2 cc's followed after me I have no idea

sT 04-Jun-21 08:04 PM

it's more of an any one person can change role

rotanietS unless heron attacked me n1

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 08:04 PM

but you wouldn't have been turned if so

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 08:04 PM

ye

so

wolves not re attacking me was good for them

as they needed the numbers

and i was able to provide them with it (edited)

emiT 04-Jun-21 08:05 PM

The logic on me being undead wasn’t there tbh

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 08:05 PM

assumption: double cub attacked i guess

as the cub attacks were missing

i would have assumed

yolboB 04-Jun-21 08:05 PM

Some of my favorite moments reading through cc's https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/849382402303459358/849989627708571719 https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/849382402303459358/849954702095024130

6h8ʍpꓛ 04-Jun-21 08:05 PM

the thing is on paper killing an undead whilst undead are small in number is worse than killing a town

unfortunately converting town is worse than killing undead

and there was alot of conversions every night

yolboB 04-Jun-21 08:06 PM

Yeah, wolves coodinated that to make it happen

the double wolf kill hit perfect

6h8ʍpꓛ 04-Jun-21 08:06 PM

which isn't the fault of ww or town, actually it is, the made it obvious who targets were

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 08:06 PM

wolves left too many attack survivors

all of which were undead

yolboB 04-Jun-21 08:06 PM

Wolves specifically gave up their targets to undead for self preservation

emiT 04-Jun-21 08:07 PM

People don’t like vamp clearly and it won’t be fixed so wouldn’t it need to be removed?

People have said they won’t play a vamp game

emiT People don’t like vamp clearly and it won’t be fixed so wouldn’t it need to be removed?

sT 04-Jun-21 08:07 PM

imo it should be

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 08:07 PM

the problem with vamp is working hard to remove them to just then get turned vamp and lose

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 08:07 PM

removed or fixed?

6h8ʍpꓛ 04-Jun-21 08:07 PM

I said it earlier but I think something that people need to remember is that vampires don't have to be the best faction to win, they just have to not be the worst. Town and Ww pitting against eachorher so openly made it too easy for vamps to convert

sT 04-Jun-21 08:07 PM

the main issue of vamp is the main concept of vamp

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 08:08 PM

or like this game

6h8ʍpꓛ I said it earlier but I think something that people need to remember is that vampires don't have to be the best faction to win, they just have to not be the worst. Town and Ww pitting against eachorher so openly made it too easy for vamps to convert

emiT 04-Jun-21 08:08 PM

That’s why a limit could change it

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 08:08 PM

Vamps winning with most but not all of players

emiT That’s why a limit could change it

sT 04-Jun-21 08:08 PM

as I explained, it won't fix it

probably makes the role arguably worse

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 08:08 PM

Maybe we should move vamp to limited and not use it as often?

6h8ʍpꓛ 04-Jun-21 08:08 PM

I don't think the limit was the actual issue, the issue was a lack of understanding by non-underworld on how they're exposing too much

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 08:09 PM

vamp needs lists designed around it like ES

.nahtE Maybe we should move vamp to limited and not use it as often?

emiT 04-Jun-21 08:09 PM

We definitely should think of this/ask people

sT 04-Jun-21 08:09 PM

we asked people

6h8ʍpꓛ 04-Jun-21 08:09 PM

"Oh this person is the oracle" Well thanks now I know they're a strong target for death let me demonise

emiT 04-Jun-21 08:09 PM

We could add a vampire hunter role

sT 04-Jun-21 08:09 PM

and the result was that vamp is the most hated role

Werewolves Bot B BOT 04-Jun-21 08:09 PM

Exorcist | Townsfolk Power | Limited Basics Each night, the Exorcist may remove negative effects from one player. Details Each night, the Exorcist can exorcise one player. All negative effects caused by solo roles are removed from the player and the Exorcist is informed which effects were removed. Players that have already been exorcised can not be exorcised again. The Exorcist can not cure players if they have changed role as the result of an effect, such as the Undead, but can still remove other possible effects the Undead has. The solo team who's effect is cured is informed about this. Negative Effects The following effects can be removed by the Exorcist: Enchanted - Flute Team Soulless - Hell Team Powdered - Pyro Team Demonized - Underworld Team Blessed - Heaven Team Tainted - Graveyard Team Sleepless - Nightmare Team Herded - Flock Team Infected/Contagious - Disease Team Frozen - Ice Royals Team

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 08:10 PM

most hated full role and most hated solo

emiT Where if a vampire visits them, they die/if hunter visits them they die

emiT 04-Jun-21 08:10 PM

Boop beep

It’s a counter to undead

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 08:10 PM

exorcist is a decent combat to vamp

but I think even night +1 per vamp is strong

sT 04-Jun-21 08:11 PM

https://github.com/McTsts/Werewolves-Roles/pull/381

Make Vampire a limited role. by McTsts · Pull Request #381 · McTsts...

6h8ʍpꓛ 04-Jun-21 08:11 PM

not if we have a situation like this game where vamp actually gets the demonises each night

yolboB 04-Jun-21 08:11 PM

Someone owes prophet money https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/849031345971920987/849750088837234719 (edited)

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 08:11 PM

what about just +1 for all vamps rather than +1 per vamp on even nights

emiT 04-Jun-21 08:11 PM

Unless vamps can turn every other night

.nahtE but I think even night +1 per vamp is strong

sT 04-Jun-21 08:11 PM

what?

.nahtE #i_have_got_a_cake_to_bake #jamie_oliver #gordon_ramsey One of these is not like the others

eltruT .rM 04-Jun-21 08:12 PM

I needed an excuse to post the exquisite Latvian Eurovision song "Cake to Bake" that goes something along the lines of "I've (or we've) got a cake to bake [...]".

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 08:12 PM

lol

yolboB 04-Jun-21 08:13 PM

#welcome_to #werewolves_revamped #where_everything #is_made_up #and_the_points #dont_matter

my contribution to the cc limit

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 08:13 PM

wait my original 4 ccs were cf, sabo wolf, vamp and huntress (edited)

yolboB 04-Jun-21 08:26 PM

LoG did not believe in undead

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/848581308228829218/849570985903521814 https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/848581308228829218/849983655811481610

yolboB Someone owes prophet money https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/849031345971920987/849750088837234719 (edited)

emiT 04-Jun-21 08:28 PM

Technically mat owes me

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 08:30 PM

I am happy to have been part of undead team the oldest undead and oldest underworld member to have survived the game

1

props to tear and mainly void for those demonizations

both of you did a good job on that and we got everyone you wanted converted

vera and bob you have been brilliant additions as thanks to you 2 we were able to control 2 of the 3 kills

prophet thanks to you and vera we were able to get the mislynch we needed as undead to win

heron thanks for turning me undead and then in the end killing off the last tk

emiT 04-Jun-21 08:35 PM

^this is what I mean by you guys killed it

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 08:36 PM

turtle and ethan thanks for being the chef and last waiter combo as thanks to you we had the votes to end this game early

and Leila thank you for being with us and silently vibed to our plays

yolboB 04-Jun-21 08:37 PM

Double thanks to Vera for being persistent enough to undeadify me, and getting through Ethan's runner shield

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 08:41 PM

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/848581353397157958/848963019723636757 i think i scared jayanna with my chef kill on her

sowwy @annayaJ it was poisoned out of love <3 (when i was chef)

eltruT .rM 04-Jun-21 08:46 PM

You did.

yolboB 04-Jun-21 08:46 PM

This is such a tragic chat to read https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/848581353397157958/850314303310397441

Poor jayanna

emiT 04-Jun-21 08:47 PM

Bob you seen #💫fren_goodbye

yolboB 04-Jun-21 08:47 PM

Vera stabbed you in the back cold-hearted

emiT Bob you seen #💫fren_goodbye

yolboB 04-Jun-21 08:47 PM

Reading now

What was the channel originally called?

emiT 04-Jun-21 08:51 PM

Hello_fren

yolboB 04-Jun-21 08:51 PM

tragic

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 08:52 PM

awww i didnt expect someone complementing me this game thanks dora

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 08:52 PM

Its undeniable that u played well

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 08:52 PM

that was before i turned

that was at the start

dora and prophet chat

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 08:53 PM

I feel like wolves never really had a chance tbh

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 08:53 PM

called me smart player

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 08:53 PM

Oh yeah lol last game i told dora u were one of the pros (edited)

I mean before reset

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 08:55 PM

i agree i aint genius level

i have too many mishaps in my games

but occasionally i can have a genius moment

1

rotanietS dora and prophet chat

arøD 04-Jun-21 08:58 PM

Nothing to see in that chat

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 08:58 PM

oof turtle doubts me

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 08:58 PM

me (bad player)

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 08:58 PM

i small brain i guess

also i had that sneaking suspicion on vera being cult

gosh i should have backed myself earlier in the game

areV 04-Jun-21 09:00 PM

i wanted to be a bit obvious about it

yknow

i think this game was a very good example on vamp

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:00 PM

i mean i did catch it when you said you know cult

that was when i was cit though

areV 04-Jun-21 09:00 PM

vamp worked beautifully this game imo

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:02 PM

thonk huntress targeted me d0/n1 lol

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:03 PM

And this was vamp when one of them died d1

Imagine how much worse it would get when they both survived a bit longer (edited)

yolboB 04-Jun-21 09:04 PM

To be honest, I think it would have been the same

There was barely a night kill that didn't hit a demonized player

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:04 PM

Probably only difference is jay being undead too

Vamp works better when theres plaguebearer in my opinion

yolboB 04-Jun-21 09:05 PM

Wolves were still screwed and would have worked with undead anyways. Town would have needed to start lynching undead the day they lynched anna

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:05 PM

No town just needed to get vamp out early

Its top priority

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:05 PM

vamp out for both early is important

yolboB 04-Jun-21 09:06 PM

Meh, wolves needed it to win

Losing both vamps early would be basically guaranteed town win this game

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:06 PM

True

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:06 PM

i usually play like yes vamp is dangerous but the back of the mind is keep vamp alive

ye

void did well on not getting found out earlier

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:07 PM

Ive won as town lead in vamp games when i was runner and hooker. I had to work so so so hard to win, its not even funny

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:07 PM

guess how hard i worked as undead xD

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:07 PM

Luckily one of those times, stein was cult and claimed pyro to vamp and got the demonized list

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:08 PM

ngl i work well with any team bar wolves imo

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:08 PM

But you misread crowd seeker as carrot in the list, which caused a lot of confusion

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:08 PM

yeah i messed that up

but fed deleting his message got me back

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:08 PM

When fed deleted his message lol

But the bot reposted it

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:08 PM

ye

that was the w

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:09 PM

Funny how that backfired on him

I was hooker with a cupid and we made it through because i didnt reveal it to trusted chat

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:10 PM

except to me :D

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:10 PM

And we also swapped cult member with cult leader in the role list

Yeah and macho

Town didnt do any of the vamp precautions this time

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:11 PM

well they tried

with bobloy

but that was it xD

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:11 PM

Should have just been matt doing everything because he could never be undead

Then if he sees hes dying, he can put a runner in his place

That would be the optimal and possibly only strat to keeping info safe

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:13 PM

but yeah

this game was finally an alive win for me

and general win

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:14 PM

You havent been town for a while

In recent memory

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 09:14 PM

S6G2 afaik

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:14 PM

my last win was v2g2 as assassin

nooe

i was turned undead (edited)

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 09:14 PM

Oh yeh

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:15 PM

Which one was that

V2g2

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 09:15 PM

S6G2

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:15 PM

No that was the butcher one right

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 09:15 PM

stein became undead

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:15 PM

last official season win on this server was s5g4 as cult member

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 09:15 PM

Yeah butcher + vamps

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:15 PM

nope s5g2

even later

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:16 PM

He was town lead but refused to kill vamps because he knew he would join their team >:(

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:16 PM

and last win on this server in general was OS5A as Wolf

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:16 PM

Made the wolves have to kill vamps

Which game was v2g2

I guess ill check

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 09:17 PM

5A was wolvespine right?

Captain Luffy Which game was v2g2

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 09:17 PM

you didn't play

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:17 PM

the games where i ended up being a Cultist at the end of the game I always won

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:17 PM

Oh that was the one i missed because signups filled up before i woke up

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 09:17 PM

mine and kruthers first VIP game

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:17 PM

I woke up and signups were done

Then i was a sub but never got subbed in

I wish subs were able to see the public channels

So they could have less catching up to do if they join

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 09:20 PM

that's a thing now or I thought it was changed

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:20 PM

No clue but it wasnt a thing at that time, at the very least

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 09:21 PM

yeah it was changed somepoint in s6

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:21 PM

Maybe i should have been a sub in this game, but i have a feeling id just be put in immediately

As if i was signed up

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 09:22 PM

why did you dropout? demotivation from reset?

also this is the second reset game from S6

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:23 PM

Well i had school work due really soon and i procrastinated by playiny 8 hours that day it was reset. So it was so i could focus on school better for that assignment coming up

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:23 PM

its the 3rd game in a row with an issue coming from hosts side

rotanietS its the 3rd game in a row with an issue coming from hosts side

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 09:23 PM

No? S6G4 had no issues

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:23 PM

i meant the vip game in between

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 09:24 PM

Ohhhhhh

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:24 PM

I always spend way too much time on these games

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:24 PM

same

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:24 PM

Even though you were afk the last few times u played

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 09:24 PM

Wait what was the issue V2G4? the list or the fact vera didn't publicly clarify changes to how roles worked?

Captain Luffy Even though you were afk the last few times u played

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:25 PM

fp wasnt afk

I was hella active in my sc

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:25 PM

Afk strategy i guess

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 09:25 PM

Just don't be very active

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:25 PM

yeah i did afk start twice in a row

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 09:25 PM

people think you are afk

but you're not

.nahtE Just don't be very active

emiT 04-Jun-21 09:25 PM

Got it

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:26 PM

and i am like i cant do more than 2 times the same strat

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:26 PM

I still get n1 checked by ti most games :/

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:27 PM

lol i got huntress target n1 and lwo killed n2

well attacked

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:27 PM

Last game it worked out since huntsman checked me

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 09:28 PM

S6G3 - Reset due to host error with a kill V2G3 - actually fine S6G4 - actually fine S6G5a - Draw due to a late poll close S6G5b - Actually fine V2G4 - Issues according to Stein S6G5 - Reset due to host error with a kill

Huh

4:3 on issues:fine

from S6G3 onwards

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:29 PM

well v2g4 was ts arguing with hosts on stuff he said we did wrong

sT 04-Jun-21 09:29 PM

if you'd had been a sub you'd definitely have been subbed in immediately

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:29 PM

yeah

sT 04-Jun-21 09:29 PM

pretty sure Vera asked for a sub

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:29 PM

vera wanted out

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:29 PM

Vera, ts, and astra all did

sT 04-Jun-21 09:29 PM

and if there had been subs I'd also had asked for one

I didn't ask

rotanietS well v2g4 was ts arguing with hosts on stuff he said we did wrong

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 09:29 PM

I think it was mainly making changes to roles in a partial

sT 04-Jun-21 09:29 PM

because there were none

but I would've (edited)

areV 04-Jun-21 09:29 PM

yeah, multiple people wanted out

but at some point i saw multiple specs and thats a bit confusing

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:30 PM

Me, log, and arch speced

areV 04-Jun-21 09:30 PM

Yeah

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:30 PM

bart too

marten didnt want to see this game

tea joined in later

.nahtE BOT 04-Jun-21 09:31 PM

~~url~~

Werewolves Bot B BOT 04-Jun-21 09:31 PM

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Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:31 PM

How come specs cant see main channels

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 09:31 PM

agh

areV 04-Jun-21 09:31 PM

I've been in distress for a quite some part of the game but i didnt wanna sub out because i know how confusing it is to sub in midgame

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:31 PM

and we got 3 new in the server and they wanted to spec i guess

sT 04-Jun-21 09:31 PM

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/796804836993662977/850456572408102932/unknown.png?width=554&height=618

ah

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 09:31 PM

Sad

areV I've been in distress for a quite some part of the game but i didnt wanna sub out because i know how confusing it is to sub in midgame

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:31 PM

well at least the game is over now

areV 04-Jun-21 09:32 PM

I am still slightly distressed

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 09:32 PM

Vera telling me she wanted to sub after me making a cc

areV I am still slightly distressed

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:32 PM

maybe you were the actual reason and vera didnt want to say it

areV 04-Jun-21 09:32 PM

gshdgdg

thats mean!

i am mean but thats beside the point

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:33 PM

you arent that mean

nah i understand why people wanted to sub out

already put too much effort in in the first game (edited)

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 09:34 PM

Yeah

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:34 PM

and then it gets reset

areV 04-Jun-21 09:34 PM

yeah

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 09:34 PM

Like we worked out some wolves and got a vague trusted then bam

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:34 PM

in both games wolves were fucked

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 09:35 PM

it's kinda an issue with all GM's being in the same timezones/checking at the same time

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:35 PM

vera in 28 ccs this game

thats a ton

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:35 PM

i think i was also in alot

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:35 PM

u were in 30

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:35 PM

thonk

rotanietS in both games wolves were fucked

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 09:36 PM

I get the use of AW and HH with them not being used in ages and working against them but when like they make up around 1/3 of wolves the wolves are super weak to town

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:36 PM

i typed in the search bar from: bot mentions: steinator new cc!

30 results (edited)

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:36 PM

i was also added to some

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:36 PM

30 that u were originally in, i guess

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:36 PM

probs cause of that cc spam

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:37 PM

whats the bots message when adding someone to a cc

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 09:37 PM

#the_dove_that_brings_peace_in_these_trying_times

✅ Added @player to the CC!

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:38 PM

u were added to 7 ccs

it seems

so 37 total

sT 04-Jun-21 09:38 PM

my suggestion for the role list would've been a PW instead of a ScW

but 8 out 25 is a solid amount of wolves

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:38 PM

is that the most out of anyone?

did anyone have more than 37

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 09:38 PM

AW had little use in the second list

currently new AW is best against GWW

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:39 PM

ethan was in 35

so i think stein has the most

sT 04-Jun-21 09:39 PM

~~I was in 22~~

and added to 5?

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:40 PM

bob in 32

sT 04-Jun-21 09:40 PM

so that's like 8 in total

tsiMdioV 04-Jun-21 09:40 PM

I was in like 5 lol

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 09:40 PM

Ts what is the list of roles and their last use looking like now?

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:40 PM

how was a citizen of all people in the most ccs of anyone

tsiMdioV 04-Jun-21 09:40 PM

@Captain Luffy I won as vamp!

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 09:40 PM

for solo

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:40 PM

congrats void

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:40 PM

cc spam

sT 04-Jun-21 09:40 PM

uh I only have the one on the rating sheet rn

it's not very nice

tsiMdioV 04-Jun-21 09:40 PM

Lol

sT 04-Jun-21 09:40 PM

ill update the nice one

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:40 PM

gg void

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:40 PM

how does it feel to win as vamp

tsiMdioV 04-Jun-21 09:41 PM

I barely did anything

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:41 PM

probably feels the least earned tbh

compared to any other win

aside from some UA

tsiMdioV 04-Jun-21 09:41 PM

I feel like a proud dad because the undead did all the work

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:41 PM

lol

well you did demonise me

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 09:41 PM

Vamp is easiest solo to win as

tsiMdioV 04-Jun-21 09:41 PM

That's literally all I did

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 09:41 PM

What is the hardest solo

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:41 PM

devil fp

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:41 PM

couldnt they have lynched ethan on that final day for town to win

tsiMdioV 04-Jun-21 09:41 PM

Old devil

Werewolves Bot B BOT 04-Jun-21 09:41 PM

Database error. Could not find role solo team!

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:41 PM

www

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:41 PM

cuz it removes chef

.nahtE What is the hardest solo

yolboB 04-Jun-21 09:42 PM

reaper?

Captain Luffy couldnt they have lynched ethan on that final day for town to win

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 09:42 PM

what final day?

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:42 PM

the one where u lynched ts

Captain Luffy couldnt they have lynched ethan on that final day for town to win

tsiMdioV 04-Jun-21 09:42 PM

Underworld got majority

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:42 PM

but mayor has double votes right

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:42 PM

we had 8 v 7 on votes

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 09:42 PM

Vamp + chef had majority

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:42 PM

that was 7

6 + 1 mayor

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:42 PM

oh but what about ts

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 09:42 PM

7 +1 v 6 + 1

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:42 PM

5 + 1 + 1

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:42 PM

if he voted with town

Captain Luffy but mayor has double votes right

yolboB 04-Jun-21 09:42 PM

Not til less than 15

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 09:43 PM

5 + 1 + 1

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:43 PM

5 towns 1 wolf 1 mayor

7

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:43 PM

oh i see

yolboB 04-Jun-21 09:43 PM

8to7 was exactly 15

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:43 PM

you think i didnt think that through

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:43 PM

tbh town kinda lost thanks to jay lol

tsiMdioV 04-Jun-21 09:43 PM

Lol

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:43 PM

for being gullible

Captain Luffy tbh town kinda lost thanks to jay lol

tsiMdioV 04-Jun-21 09:43 PM

What did Jay do?

yolboB 04-Jun-21 09:43 PM

You should read #cult

tsiMdioV 04-Jun-21 09:43 PM

Which Jay

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:43 PM

well vera mainly isloated her while she was town

yolboB 8to7 was exactly 15

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 09:43 PM

last day was 14

yolboB 04-Jun-21 09:43 PM

It's tragic

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 09:43 PM

but mayor had +1

yolboB 04-Jun-21 09:43 PM

ah

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:43 PM

claimed CF to turtle and then after anna died, turtle told town that jay was CF and everyone believed it

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:44 PM

lol

meanwhile undeads:

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:44 PM

and then vera after becoming undead got jay to kill whoever they wanted

and jay just went along with it

yolboB It's tragic

tsiMdioV 04-Jun-21 09:44 PM

Agreed, ok

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 09:44 PM

Who was the least disappointing waiter?

sT 04-Jun-21 09:45 PM

@.nahtE

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:45 PM

you out of them 3

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:45 PM

what is town elder

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:45 PM

tear went on a suicide mission

sT 04-Jun-21 09:45 PM

wolves

.nahtE Who was the least disappointing waiter?

tsiMdioV 04-Jun-21 09:45 PM

I can tell you who was the most disappointing

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:45 PM

and anna was just afk

.nahtE Who was the least disappointing waiter?

eltruT .rM 04-Jun-21 09:45 PM

You, but it wasn't a high bar to reach... You did out me day 1.

sT 04-Jun-21 09:45 PM

solo

sT @.nahtE

tsiMdioV 04-Jun-21 09:45 PM

What is this?

sT 04-Jun-21 09:45 PM

UA

when the role was last used

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:46 PM

^

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:46 PM

with a lone wolf in play, probably better for chef to outthemself

tsiMdioV 04-Jun-21 09:46 PM

Oh

sT 04-Jun-21 09:46 PM

Ethan asked for the list

tsiMdioV 04-Jun-21 09:46 PM

Whats the number

sT 04-Jun-21 09:46 PM

how many games ago that was

tsiMdioV 04-Jun-21 09:46 PM

Oh

Werewolves Bot B BOT 04-Jun-21 09:46 PM

Database error. Could not find role town elder!

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:46 PM

its not a role anymore

red is removed (edited)

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:46 PM

what is it?

sT 04-Jun-21 09:46 PM

town elder is executioner but it doesnt lynch anyone

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 09:47 PM

Ranger has really not been used in ages? wow

sT 04-Jun-21 09:47 PM

and it only dies on the third lynch iirc

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:47 PM

mad scientist meanwhile

eltruT .rM You, but it wasn't a high bar to reach... You did out me day 1.

tsiMdioV 04-Jun-21 09:47 PM

Didn't tear do it first lol

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 09:47 PM

I dislike MS

.nahtE I dislike MS

emiT 04-Jun-21 09:47 PM

No hating on Ms paint

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:47 PM

its the only official role that wasnt used in the last 20 games lol

.nahtE 04-Jun-21 09:47 PM

it's huntres with either 50% or 100% chance of killing evil

tsiMdioV 04-Jun-21 09:47 PM

Also what was your reaction to his suicide mission, I'm curious. Cause I was losing my mind @eltruT .rM

eltruT .rM 04-Jun-21 09:48 PM

I'm not sure what he was doing.

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:48 PM

after ethan turned i waited to give turtle the backstory he had to play with

sT 04-Jun-21 09:48 PM

MS targets can cc MS

which would be very funny

rotanietS 04-Jun-21 09:48 PM

lol

sT 04-Jun-21 09:49 PM

MS cant proof itself

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 09:52 PM

wait idiot and exorcist were roles in the original?

season 1 roles

and whats priestess

Captain Luffy wait idiot and exorcist were roles in the original?

sT 04-Jun-21 09:52 PM

yeah

Captain Luffy and whats priestess

sT 04-Jun-21 09:52 PM

Priestess turns CCs into Citizens

Curse Caster (CC in short) turns Citizens into CCs

so you could talk to a cc cc in a cc

but the cc cc in the cc is really cc

back then everyone turned into Citizen

Angel isn't lynchend D1? becomes citizen

Barber kills somebody? becomes citizen

Runner is attacked? becomes citizen

Royal Knight cancels lynch? becomes citizen

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 10:00 PM

yikes

i wonder what the original roles were

do u have the first rolebook

@sT

sT 04-Jun-21 10:06 PM

yeah

well no

I dont know when its from

I think it's the S2 one?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/833094572753420319/833094621894672424/Detailed_Book_of_Instructions.pdf

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 10:14 PM

oh theres a lot of removed roles

i wonder why these were removed

oh alcoholic i understand lol

there were so many solo roles

sT 04-Jun-21 10:24 PM

these were removed:

Ice King

Innkeeper

(as Exorcist and Innkeeper) Idiot

Scared Wolf

(as Blessed Wolf) Exorcist

Jack Robinson Robin Jackson Alcoholic Amulet Holder Priestess Town Elder Curse Caster Four Horsemen Immortal The Thing

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 10:24 PM

yeah its a ton

and angel and psychopath used to be solo

sT 04-Jun-21 10:24 PM

yeah

Psychopath is buffed by not being solo and Angel works better as UA I think

instead of the D1 lynch thing and then becoming Citizen

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 10:25 PM

imagine having the game end d1

sT 04-Jun-21 10:25 PM

I know there has to be an even older role book somewhere that has the mysterious "Zombie"

I think there once was a game where almost everyone was the solo angel

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 10:25 PM

angel wininng ends the game

scary

areV 04-Jun-21 10:26 PM

thatd be funny

lets bring that back

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 10:26 PM

there also wasnt categories like TI and TM, it seems

sT 04-Jun-21 10:26 PM

those weren't even added in the WWR rewrite

areV 04-Jun-21 10:26 PM

those were made specifically for partial games

i think v1g1?

sT 04-Jun-21 10:27 PM

no

they were specifically made to resolve the AT edge cases

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 10:27 PM

innocent, curse caster, alchoholic, that all makes sense to me. but why exocist and idiot

areV 04-Jun-21 10:27 PM

really?

sT 04-Jun-21 10:27 PM

Innocent = Citizen

areV really?

sT 04-Jun-21 10:27 PM

I'm 99.9% sure on this

it's possible that some sort of categories existed before than tho

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 10:27 PM

also grandma was way different it seems

areV 04-Jun-21 10:27 PM

i thought we only recently clarified AT

sT 04-Jun-21 10:27 PM

no

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 10:27 PM

innkeeper was weird, exorcist that only worked on ice king (edited)

areV 04-Jun-21 10:28 PM

we changed it when we switched to github for role changes

sT 04-Jun-21 10:28 PM

I very clearly remember introducing the categories and deciding which ones should exist for the sake of edge case resolution

areV 04-Jun-21 10:28 PM

im pretty sure about that

sT 04-Jun-21 10:28 PM

we 100% did not

areV 04-Jun-21 10:28 PM

huh

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 10:28 PM

raven renamed to stalker?

sT 04-Jun-21 10:28 PM

yeah

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 10:28 PM

and you called lynching as daily death poll

areV im pretty sure about that

sT 04-Jun-21 10:28 PM

this is the same debate we've had many times, and I'm 100% sure I'm right about it

AT was done incorrectly for a while so de facto it saw Angel/etc as a threat

but that was a misunderstanding

areV 04-Jun-21 10:29 PM

hmm

Captain Luffy and you called lynching as daily death poll

sT 04-Jun-21 10:29 PM

well it's not really us

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 10:29 PM

i think the logic was that angel was the same as executioner and exe is a threat

sT 04-Jun-21 10:29 PM

the first role book I was a contributor for is the first WWR one

(which was used on red server starting with s3g2)

Captain Luffy i think the logic was that angel was the same as executioner and exe is a threat

sT 04-Jun-21 10:29 PM

yeah

It's possible we had informal categories before they were formally introduced into the role book

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 10:30 PM

and FT was the only invest role it seems

sT 04-Jun-21 10:30 PM

CS

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 10:30 PM

town invest

sT 04-Jun-21 10:30 PM

FT CS and AT should be the old ones

CS is TI

FT CS AT old TI PW Wa old WI

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 10:30 PM

oh theres cs too

but fortune apprentice only worked on FT

sT 04-Jun-21 10:30 PM

yeah

and a FA had a specific FT assigned to it

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 10:31 PM

i think theres too many confirmable town roles

especially in the old thing there lol

u had none of the TM we use today

sT 04-Jun-21 10:31 PM

yeah but they just put in 10 Cits

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 10:33 PM

what is quaker anyways

is it named after the cereal (edited)

sT 04-Jun-21 10:33 PM

where did you see quaker?

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 10:33 PM

oh its not there i was just looking at the role suggestion things

sT 04-Jun-21 10:34 PM

ah

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 10:34 PM

theres like 18 open role change things

sT 04-Jun-21 10:34 PM

the initial version was suggested by marhjo

I kept the name but put a new role with a related concept

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 10:34 PM

i should have put my golem role suggestion there

sT 04-Jun-21 10:34 PM

apparently the role book I sent was updated past S1G5

there doesn't seem to be an older version in that channel

or a newer one

ettereprah 04-Jun-21 10:35 PM

jack robinson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 10:36 PM

yeah please never re-add jack robinson

sT 04-Jun-21 10:36 PM

ill only readd robin jackson

but not jack robinson

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 10:36 PM

i dont remember which is which

sT 04-Jun-21 10:36 PM

they're the same

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 10:36 PM

but im assuming robin jackson is the worse one

sT 04-Jun-21 10:36 PM

no they're the same

they're citizen but need each other dead to be able to win

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 10:37 PM

oh i thought one was that if town won, they stole the win, and the other was that town wouldnt lose in that scenario with that one alive

sT 04-Jun-21 10:38 PM

uh also possible

nope

it's what I said

Captain Luffy 04-Jun-21 10:39 PM

yeah i misinterpreted it i guess

sT I think there once was a game where almost everyone was the solo angel

sT 04-Jun-21 11:49 PM

ettereprah 05-Jun-21 12:24 AM

do it again

ojoJ ojoM 05-Jun-21 12:57 AM

Damn I really died what a fucking loser smh

ettereprah 05-Jun-21 01:06 AM

yea me too

sT Click to see original message

Jeanne D Arch 05-Jun-21 08:05 AM

LMFAOOOO WTF

ojoJ ojoM 05-Jun-21 08:53 AM

I really want a chaos game

ettereprah 05-Jun-21 11:17 AM

same

chaos games are fun

Marten 05-Jun-21 01:27 PM

Thief

.nahtE 05-Jun-21 01:34 PM

Game with 23 psychopahts

Psychopaths