Mini Wolves Revamped - wyldstallions

Werewolves Bot A BOT 12-May-21 06:45 PM

@🇦🇿 Efendi has created a new CC! CC Members | Total: 2 @🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi @🇦🇿 Efendi

🇦🇿 Efendi 12-May-21 06:45 PM

Now that's a slightly better name

We're on our lonesome in this one

, gonna have to poke some regs earlier than previously lol

Plus a semi-closed role list, that's different

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 12-May-21 06:49 PM

I knew you'd come on board

Yeah agreed, I think it's just you and me from our server

and Bob I guess

and yeah it is different, I don't know why they did that

🇦🇿 Efendi 12-May-21 07:05 PM

Mixing it up I suppose

But that is going to change the claiming meta significantly I guess

And disadvantage those of us that don't know the full role list well more possibly

It was weird having the roles all posted so specifically but in a way it helped in figuring out what 'could' be going on

🇩🇪 Jendrik 12-May-21 07:09 PM

if you write the first two letters of a categories (e.g. tm) it will show all roles in that category

🇦🇿 Efendi 12-May-21 07:10 PM

Ah yeah, that's useful

More similar to what we're used to not knowing exactly what's in play, but it will play differently I imagine

Kinda upset I'm town this time lol, far more 'claim space' for non-town than the previous games

🇦🇿 Efendi But that is going to change the claiming meta significantly I guess

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 12-May-21 07:16 PM

Yeah it will, and I think it will benefit players experienced in this server in terms of dynamics

🇦🇿 Efendi It was weird having the roles all posted so specifically but in a way it helped in figuring out what 'could' be going on

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 12-May-21 07:16 PM

It helped us because we could become acquainted with the game quickly because of certain roles

🇦🇿 Efendi 12-May-21 07:16 PM

Yup exactly

🇦🇿 Efendi Kinda upset I'm town this time lol, far more 'claim space' for non-town than the previous games

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 12-May-21 07:17 PM

Omg this was my thought exactly

Was so disappointed, perfect game to branch out and get creative

Was hoping for the role you got last game tbh

A devil team could run wild

🇦🇿 Efendi 12-May-21 07:17 PM

Heh, demon & devil would be very op in a 15 person game

That was a fun role though, I've plagiarized a version of Devil already to test in our games at some point

You know almost every single one of them on Orc's server is selling their soul to kill someone random for no reason (edited)

Townsfolk - 7 ▪︎ Town Miscellaneous - 3x ▪︎ Town Power - 1x ▪︎ Town Investigative - 1x ▪︎ Town Killing - 2x Werewolves - 4 ▪︎ Werewolf Miscellaneous - 2x ▪︎ Werewolf Power - 2x Solo - 1 ▪︎ Solo Power - 1x Unaligned - 3 ▪︎ Unaligned Miscellaneous - 3x

Werewolves Bot A BOT 12-May-21 07:21 PM

Syntax error. Unknown command tm!

🇦🇿 Efendi 12-May-21 07:21 PM

tm

Werewolves Bot A BOT 12-May-21 07:21 PM

Townsfolk Miscellaneous Bard Bartender Child Citizen Cursed Civilian Fortune Apprentice Journalist Macho Ranger Runner Town Crier Trickster Acrobat Assistant Claimspace Cursed Civilian (Alt) Idiot

Claimspace | Town Miscellaneous Basics The Claimspace has no special abilities, and is only there for claimspace. Details For each Claimspace in the game, an extra role is added to the role list along with Claimspace, however no player actually is this role. When the role list is sent, it is not noted which role is not actually in the game. The Claimspace is privately informed which role the extra was. If there are multiple Claimspaces, each Claimspace has their own extra role.

🇦🇿 Efendi 12-May-21 07:22 PM

lol

Werewolves Bot A BOT 12-May-21 07:22 PM

Idiot | Townsfolk Miscellaneous Basics If the Idiot dies for the first time, they instead live, but lose their voting power. Details If the Idiot dies due to the lynch or due to an attack, the first death will be prevented. However, the Idiot loses their vote and is informed about this. If the Idiot is Mayor, they will still have their Mayor vote.

🇦🇿 Efendi Heh, demon & devil would be very op in a 15 person game

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 12-May-21 07:22 PM

That is true

🇦🇿 Efendi You know almost every single one of them on Orc's server is selling their soul to kill someone random for no reason (edited)

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 12-May-21 07:23 PM

It looked like a great role, you just got unlucky with me, otherwise you two would have won I think. But yes they 100% would, emotions run high there

🇦🇿 Efendi 12-May-21 07:24 PM

Mmm, could maybe have soul-killed you as soon as I had the Ti read, but that would have been a very fast play

Anyway, spilled milk, it was close and it was fun so all good

I am going to try it on them though. As much as a social experiment as anything

Maybe continually selling their souls for the wrong kills & like 5 devil wins in a row would gradually make people think about what they're doing a bit more

k well I have a sore arm and a bit of a headache from my second covid jab earlier, got to go lie down

If you've really drawn town again and have any thoughts about how to approach this one in the meantime let me know, promise I'm good this time

🇦🇿 Efendi Mmm, could maybe have soul-killed you as soon as I had the Ti read, but that would have been a very fast play

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 12-May-21 07:44 PM

I already think you did very well reading me as you did so no thanks

🇦🇿 Efendi Maybe continually selling their souls for the wrong kills & like 5 devil wins in a row would gradually make people think about what they're doing a bit more

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 12-May-21 07:45 PM

I think it would be very interesting in that server. I think demon would be more powerful there because people play more selfishly without cc's and because there's more emotion there

🇦🇿 Efendi k well I have a sore arm and a bit of a headache from my second covid jab earlier, got to go lie down

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 12-May-21 07:45 PM

Yeah get some rest and recover

🇦🇿 Efendi If you've really drawn town again and have any thoughts about how to approach this one in the meantime let me know, promise I'm good this time

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 12-May-21 07:47 PM

I really wish I could trust you but after my blunder last game I am wary

I am town but I have to be careful about how much to give you from now on

Although even if you were wolf I doubt you'd care much about my role anyway

🇦🇿 Efendi 13-May-21 10:05 AM

Slept for 14hrs

Yeah sure I get that... and that if you're not town this would be the perfect opportunity to exploit for you with the onus kinda being on me, so I should be a touch careful too lol

However my role is of limited utility and defo not a high priority target, potentially the opposite, so if you do want to try the trust thing I'll claim first

This is the only cc I have (barring a random one) rn, need to do something about that but got to go to work. At least I should be more alive this evening to play (hopefully if not dead or w/e).

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 13-May-21 10:33 AM

Nice! Solid rest haha

🇦🇿 Efendi Yeah sure I get that... and that if you're not town this would be the perfect opportunity to exploit for you with the onus kinda being on me, so I should be a touch careful too lol

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 13-May-21 10:34 AM

Exploit how? I think you give me too much credit

🇦🇿 Efendi However my role is of limited utility and defo not a high priority target, potentially the opposite, so if you do want to try the trust thing I'll claim first

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 13-May-21 10:35 AM

That's a kinda accurate description of mine too, although I just need to be sure you're town if I was to tell you what I am

You're welcome to claim if you want

I have another one but that's it really, I got messaged by someone random whom I've never spoken to before and it was pretty weird ahah

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 13-May-21 01:09 PM

You can't blow off work and explain wtf they talking about in town square to me?

🇦🇿 Efendi 13-May-21 06:08 PM

Lol, just trying to make sense of it now

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 13-May-21 06:09 PM

I'm so fkn confused

new roles, limited roles

what the hell are they on about

🇦🇿 Efendi 13-May-21 06:09 PM

Seems like they're debating what the 3P power role could be

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 13-May-21 06:09 PM

so far I'm not enjoying the hidden roles this game ahah

🇦🇿 Efendi 13-May-21 06:09 PM

They seem to think its a vampire or a reaper

Werewolves Bot A BOT 13-May-21 06:09 PM

Vampire | Solo Power - Underworld Team Basics The Vampire wins by secretly turning all the living players into undead. The Vampire demonizes players; if a demonized player is killed in the night, they will instead turn into an undead. Details Each night, the Vampire may demonize one player. On even numbered nights, the Vampire may demonize a second player. The target will not know about it by that time. Vampires cannot demonize themselves or other members of the underworld. When a demonized player is killed in the night, they will turn into an undead. The Vampire wins the game, along with the undead, if all players are either Vampire, dead or undead. If there are several Vampires, they work together. Demonizing a player is an immediate ability.

🇦🇿 Efendi 13-May-21 06:10 PM

ooof

Or

Werewolves Bot A BOT 13-May-21 06:10 PM

Reaper | Solo Power - Nightmare Team Basics The Reaper may use the powers of dead players, temporarily. When the Reaper uses a power on a player they turn sleepless. The Reaper wins when all living players have been turned sleepless. Details The Reaper knows the roles of all dead players. At night the Reaper will be able to use the power of every player that has died since the start of the previous night. The gained abilities can only be used during this night, and are lost after that. If one of the dead players had a disguise when they died, their disguise is applied to the Reaper as a weak disguise for the night. Use $info reaper abilities for a detailed explanation on how the reaper can use certain abilities. When the Reaper uses a power on another player the targeted player becomes sleepless. Players are privately informed when they become sleepless. The Reaper cannot become sleepless. The Reaper cannot use any powers on a player they have already turned sleepless. However, when a sleepless player uses a power on the Reaper, their power fails and they die. One exception is that sleepless players may still target the Reaper.

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 13-May-21 06:10 PM

jesus

🇦🇿 Efendi 13-May-21 06:11 PM

solo

hmmm

sp

Werewolves Bot A BOT 13-May-21 06:11 PM

Solo Power Flute Apprentice (Flute Team) Flute Player (Flute Team) Vampire (Underworld Team) Ice King (Ice Royals Team) Ice Queen (Ice Royals Team) Plaguebearer (Graveyard Team) Reaper (Nightmare Team) Shepherd (Flock Team)

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 13-May-21 06:11 PM

those are both OP

Werewolves Bot A BOT 13-May-21 06:11 PM

Shepherd | Solo Power - Flock Team Basics Each night, the Shepherd may choose one player to herd. When everyone is dead, herded or part of the flock the Shepherd wins. Details Whenever a player is herded, they will join a secret channel with the other herded players. Herding a player is an immediate effect. The Shepherd may see everything said in this channel, from the safety of their secret channel. Members of the flock can not be herded. During the day, the Shepherd may steal one herded player's votes for the current day, however that player will be unherded. Players with negative votes can't have their negative votes stolen. The Mayors extra vote cannot be stolen. The Shepherd is informed how many votes they have after stealing a vote. During the night, if there's two or more herded players, the Shepherd is protected from attacks. Every time the Shepherd is attacked, two random herded players will immediately be unherded instead. At the start of the game, the Shepherd may choose a role as a strong disguise. If the Shepherd doesn’t choose a role, they will be disguised as a citizen. If the game started with more than 20 players, the Shepherd may herd two players each night, instead of one.

🇦🇿 Efendi 13-May-21 06:12 PM

hmmmm that seems quite similar to flute player, with the additional voting thing. Kinda like Piper in mafia

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 13-May-21 06:13 PM

these all seem pretty similar tbh

🇦🇿 Efendi 13-May-21 06:13 PM

If someone is herded, reaper'd or enchanted I guess that should be claimed

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 13-May-21 06:13 PM

like variations of the same thing

🇦🇿 Efendi 13-May-21 06:13 PM

I wasn't

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 13-May-21 06:13 PM

neither was I

🇦🇿 Efendi 13-May-21 06:13 PM

If nobody else was, then I guess they're assuming a Vampire

Werewolves Bot A BOT 13-May-21 06:13 PM

Database error. Could not find role plague!

Plaguebearer | Solo Power - Graveyard Team Basics The Plaguebearer is an alternative version of the vampire. Details Instead of demonizing, the Plaguebearer taints players. Instead of undead the Plaguebearer has zombies. A demonized player can't be tainted, and a tainted player can't be demonized. If tainting/demonizing fails the player is informed. Members of the graveyard or underworld teams cannot be tainted or demonized.

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 13-May-21 06:14 PM

I see, cause vampire demonised people don't know they are?

🇦🇿 Efendi 13-May-21 06:14 PM

Not even getting into the Ice King thing, I tried looking at that before and it broke my head

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi I see, cause vampire demonised people don't know they are?

🇦🇿 Efendi 13-May-21 06:15 PM

Not until they "die" I think

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 13-May-21 06:15 PM

yeah I haven't bothered with those really, only the ones they mentioned lots

yeah right, when they become undead or whatever

🇦🇿 Efendi 13-May-21 06:15 PM

Not quite sure I understand that entirely, if they become undead what happens then?

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 13-May-21 06:16 PM

I think they just survive and become enchanted

🇦🇿 Efendi 13-May-21 06:16 PM

Are they still dead, or do they remain in game but now in the Vamp team

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 13-May-21 06:16 PM

like the equivalent

I think the latter

🇦🇿 Efendi 13-May-21 06:17 PM

Yeah I think so too, its like our cult crossed with Piper

Although what then, can they be undead and then get killed outright (I presume so)?

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 13-May-21 06:18 PM

I'm not familiar with piper, but sure

I should think so

🇦🇿 Efendi 13-May-21 06:18 PM

Ah yeah sorry I forget Orc left that one out in his server

Piper just enchants a person each night, they win when all alive players are enchanted

Its like flute player basically

But without the other bits and pieces

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 13-May-21 06:19 PM

ahhh I see

🇦🇿 Efendi 13-May-21 06:19 PM

Ok right, seems like it makes sense that they are assuming a vampire

3 every two nights, 15 person game.... hmmm

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 13-May-21 06:20 PM

okay, I'll take their word for it aha

3 people a night? fk

isn't it 1 a night

and 2 on even nights?

so 3 every two nights?

🇦🇿 Efendi 13-May-21 06:20 PM

Yeah, 3 every two, that's what I said

Allowing for deaths by other means, probably looking at maybe 6 nights to win idk

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 13-May-21 06:21 PM

sweet, I've forgotten how to read

🇦🇿 Efendi 13-May-21 06:21 PM

Oh, so someone's claimed

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 13-May-21 06:22 PM

assuming that themselves or their enchanted people don't get lynched

Werewolves Bot A BOT 13-May-21 06:22 PM

Executioner | Townsfolk Killing Basics Whenever the Executioner is chosen to be lynched, it will be prevented, and a player chosen by the Executioner will be lynched in their place. Details The Executioner may target a player. This target can be updated once per phase, with 1 emergency change to be used whenever the Executioner wants to. Targeting a player is an immediate effect. The Executioner may alternatively choose to not target any player. If the Executioner would be lynched, their target is (indirectly) lynched instead. If there is no target, nobody is lynched. When the Executioner changes the lynch, their role is revealed to all, and the targeted player is lynched immediately. This ability will only work once. Future lynches will behave as normal. When the Executioner tries to lynch a player protected from the lynch, the lynch is cancelled and the Executioner is revealed, but nobody is lynched.

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 13-May-21 06:22 PM

yeah that Lord dude did

🇦🇿 Efendi 13-May-21 06:23 PM

Ok, so that role can be proven, so the idea is to claim to him and he'll prove it at the end of the day?

So we vote him mayor and lynch him?

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 13-May-21 06:25 PM

I guess so yeah

cause if he lives after lynching then he's legit

🇦🇿 Efendi 13-May-21 06:25 PM

Huh, that seems sensible, idk would be a great move for a wolf IF they were expendable somehow

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 13-May-21 06:25 PM

though I don't see why wolves wouldn't just kill him simultaenously

🇦🇿 Efendi 13-May-21 06:26 PM

They can't kill him until tonight can they?

So he's proven by the lynch, then has the night to pull things together before probably getting killed

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 13-May-21 06:26 PM

ahh yeah of course

we can talk at night here ahah

playing two games at once messes with my head sometimes aha

I claimed to him

🇦🇿 Efendi 13-May-21 06:27 PM

Hahaha, yeah, I die too fast in others for it really to be an issue here lol

🇦🇿 Efendi Hahaha, yeah, I die too fast in others for it really to be an issue here lol

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 13-May-21 06:28 PM

you seem to get murked early quite regularly on the other server aha

🇦🇿 Efendi 13-May-21 06:28 PM

Ok, I'll cc him too, not like I'm a critical role in case this is a "bob" situation lol

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 13-May-21 06:28 PM

yeah me neither, which is why I didn't have much of an issue

🇦🇿 Efendi 13-May-21 06:29 PM

You know what, I'll do it here too... I'm a Child

Werewolves Bot A BOT 13-May-21 06:30 PM

Child | Townsfolk Miscellaneous Basics The day after the Child dies, there will be two lynches instead of one. Details Whenever the Child dies, there is an additional lynch the next day. If more than one Child dies, there can be more than two lynches. It is allowed to lynch the same player several times. This is useful in scenarios where the werewolves want to lynch an Executioner, who can avoid one lynch.

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 13-May-21 06:31 PM

I see, interesting role

🇦🇿 Efendi 13-May-21 06:31 PM

Yeah, not quite sure what the meta with it is but it does say I might be useful to an Executioner so lol

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 13-May-21 06:32 PM

it says useful to wolves wanting to lynch executioner, but it's a town role

that's confusing

🇩🇪 Jendrik 13-May-21 06:32 PM

yeah idk that's a somewhat bad example

but the example is specifically for lynching the same player twice

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 13-May-21 06:33 PM

I see

🇩🇪 Jendrik 13-May-21 06:33 PM

Usually double lynch is used to lynch two different people

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 13-May-21 06:33 PM

So it basically enables a double lynch

like town version of cub but for lynching

🇩🇪 Jendrik 13-May-21 06:33 PM

yeah

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 13-May-21 06:33 PM

interesting role

🇩🇪 Jendrik 13-May-21 06:33 PM

fun fact it used to be called Town Cub before it got a real name

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 13-May-21 06:33 PM

there you go

🇩🇪 Jendrik 13-May-21 06:33 PM

because it was the town ripoff of wolf's cub

yeah

🇦🇿 Efendi 13-May-21 06:40 PM

Yup. I wish I had a better idea of how it is usually played, apparently I'm "not especially useful"

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 13-May-21 06:41 PM

doesn't seem like it

🇦🇿 Efendi 13-May-21 06:41 PM

But not a wolf claim 'cause they might lynch me if there's not a good lynch one day, so think I'm good lol

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 13-May-21 06:41 PM

and sorry, I want to return the favour of claiming but I want to be more sure you're not a wolf

I got bamboozled last time

although you are giving me town vibes

and you did cc me

🇦🇿 Efendi 13-May-21 06:42 PM

Honestly, last time was easy because I wasn't a wolf

I wasn't specifically plotting against anyone, just trying to get useful titbits for my Devil, so I basically could play as town-ish in our cc

You were just unlucky you were the one role that could find me, and more importantly the Devil, out

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 13-May-21 06:49 PM

Yeah you got me ahah

yeah it was unlucky for both of us really

🇦🇿 Efendi 13-May-21 10:19 PM

ok well that's good executioner is confirmed, logically was the most likely thing

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 13-May-21 10:22 PM

Yeah it would have been a weird play if he was anything else

🇦🇿 Efendi 14-May-21 06:06 PM

So, how're you getting on?

I really need to start talking to more people but don't really know who to start with lol

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 14-May-21 06:07 PM

honestly, not much differently

I claimed to LoG and he's helping but he's being super guarded, which is fine

but doesn't help me

at this point I'm just along for the ride

I'd imagine you're in much the same boat what with your role and it's unverified nature

🇦🇿 Efendi 14-May-21 06:09 PM

Yup, so did I, I've said I'm happy to randomly go be chatty at people and see what I can get, or try to get myself killed if that'd help 'cause not much else to do with this role, but not been asked to do so yet

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 14-May-21 06:09 PM

yeah I think he's playing his cards close to the chest

I asked why Raf is the reporter suggestion and nothing

I asked why the yeet vote, and he basically told me he has reason to believe there are no runners in game

so I assume that person claimed runner

I've no idea how he would know that but sure

🇦🇿 Efendi 14-May-21 06:11 PM

Yup. I'm sus of all runner claims anyway after the last couple of games lol, seems like a default "leave me alone" claim lol

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 14-May-21 06:11 PM

yep, that and cit ahah

🇦🇿 Efendi 14-May-21 06:11 PM

Hahaha, that wasn't my fault, Devil made me do it

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 14-May-21 06:12 PM

he did

🇦🇿 Efendi 14-May-21 06:12 PM

They

I preferred the larger game I think - not just because there were more people I knew I could get more than a couple of lines out of in it - but partly because of that

Feels very easy to screw up and do more harm than good by accident here, rather than having people about it was obvious were being a little ignored so could easily approach and actually have a chat with

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 14-May-21 06:15 PM

yeah plus the unknown role list is making everyone super sus ahah

by that I mean everyone is sus of each other

I don't understand that second message aha

🇦🇿 Efendi 14-May-21 06:16 PM

Heh sry, too many words not enough sense

I meant, in the larger games before, it was obvious a few people from our place were also sat there being ignored by most people

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 14-May-21 06:17 PM

ahhh yeah well I think it's a general trend

no one has really reached out to me

🇦🇿 Efendi 14-May-21 06:17 PM

So I could easily just cc people and chat about the game rather than it being all sus "what do you claim" and get an impression of them that way

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 14-May-21 06:18 PM

perhaps they already know of the more important roles so they don't care what I do

yeah that's true

🇦🇿 Efendi 14-May-21 06:18 PM

Reading through a lot of the other cc's in the previous games, a few of them were kinda chatty, but most really not

Townsfolk - 7 ▪︎ Town Miscellaneous - 3x ▪︎ Town Power - 1x ▪︎ Town Investigative - 1x ▪︎ Town Killing - 2x

tp

Werewolves Bot A BOT 14-May-21 06:19 PM

Townsfolk Power Fletcher Grandma Hooker Medium Royal Knight Stalker Innkeeper Exorcist

🇦🇿 Efendi 14-May-21 06:20 PM

idk what almost any of those do lol

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 14-May-21 06:20 PM

yeah but it also seemed like even experienced players didn't know what they were doing too so idk

🇦🇿 Efendi 14-May-21 06:20 PM

ti

Werewolves Bot A BOT 14-May-21 06:20 PM

Townsfolk Investigative Aura Teller Crowd Seeker Fortune Teller Huntsman Oracle Receptionist Coroner

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 14-May-21 06:20 PM

I read a couple of them but they're harder to understand than TI

also apparently limited roles can be in game, and those are the ones in italics

🇦🇿 Efendi 14-May-21 06:21 PM

ok, that's the same as before I think, we had a coroner in a previous game

ima go spam the descriptions in my channel and try to sum them up or something in a list

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 14-May-21 06:22 PM

yeah we did

can do it here if you like, I'll read along aha

🇦🇿 Efendi 14-May-21 06:24 PM

ok, well

Fletcher - turns someone into a huntress Grandma - blocks 2 votes (and uses those themselves)

Werewolves Bot A BOT 14-May-21 06:24 PM

Hooker | Townsfolk Power Basics Each night, the Hooker sleeps with another player. They will not be killed by attacks on them, but will be affected by those taking place at their target’s house. Details Since the Hooker is at the other player’s house and not at home, any attacks targeting the Hooker in the night will fail; however, if the person they’re sleeping over at is being attacked, then they both are attacked. Choosing a player to sleep with is an immediate ability. From that point on, they will stay with that player for the rest of the night. The Hooker may also choose not to sleep with anybody.

🇦🇿 Efendi 14-May-21 06:24 PM

that's kinda a hider

Werewolves Bot A BOT 14-May-21 06:25 PM

Medium | Townsfolk Power Basics Each night, the Medium may ask the dead players one question. Details During each night the Medium has access to a second secret channel, where they can ask a question, once day starts the channel is locked, and a Yes/No poll is created. All dead participants are able to vote on it during the day. Of course, there can be members of all teams in the dead participants. The question needs to be one simple yes/no question without any hidden meaning to it. Not voting as a dead participant should not give the Medium any information. Once the day ends, the poll is closed, and the Medium gains access to the second secret channel again.

🇦🇿 Efendi 14-May-21 06:25 PM

Yeah we know that one, strong (assuming the dead are mostly town etc)

Werewolves Bot A BOT 14-May-21 06:26 PM

Royal Knight | Townsfolk Power Basics Once per game, the Royal Knight may cancel the lynch. Details The Royal Knight may cancel the lynch at any time of day or night, and it will apply to the current (or if there is none the next) lynch. If there are several lynches the Royal Knight may only cancel one of them. Cancelling the lynch is an immediate ability. However, the fact that the lynch has been canceled will only be revealed at the end of the day. The Royal Knight also receives the choice whether they want to be revealed or not.

🇦🇿 Efendi 14-May-21 06:27 PM

Ok, so that one can prove itself but has to cancel a lynch to do so.

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 14-May-21 06:27 PM

that only seems useful if town are losing

in which case you wouldn't reveal ahah

well actually you would

scum know you are town I guess

🇦🇿 Efendi 14-May-21 06:27 PM

Yup, or if say I died and there was only 1 lynch target the next day

Could cancel the second lynch to prove yourself

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 14-May-21 06:28 PM

ahh yeah

🇦🇿 Efendi 14-May-21 06:28 PM

Or even if a mayor made it 2 lynches I guess, put the claimed RK on the second one and have them cancel it on themselves

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 14-May-21 06:29 PM

that's true

be real or die ahah

Werewolves Bot A BOT 14-May-21 06:29 PM

Stalker | Townsfolk Power Basics Each night, the Stalker may assign two extra votes to a player in the next day’s polls. Details Each night, the Stalker may threaten a player. The day after, that player has 2 more invisible votes against them on the daily polls. These additional votes are revealed when the polls close. The threatened player is privately notified of the threat. Threatening a player is an immediate ability. The Stalker can anonymously talk to the person they’re threatening. The Stalker may select themself. The Stalker is not affected by redirections.

🇦🇿 Efendi 14-May-21 06:30 PM

Hmmm, ok. Additional votes are revealed, so that one could kinda prove itself too I think (not sure what else might effect counts though)

Werewolves Bot A BOT 14-May-21 06:30 PM

Database error. Could not find role inkeeper!

Innkeeper | Townsfolk Power Basics Each night, the Innkeeper may invite a guest to the inn. Details Each night, the Innkeeper may add a player to the inn. The Innkeeper can anonymously talk to all the guests of the inn. Adding a guest is immediate effect. During each day, the Innkeeper may choose to clear the inn. Clearing the inn removes all guests and messages and is an end effect. If the Innkeeper dies the inn is cleared.

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 14-May-21 06:31 PM

that's like a modified bartender

🇦🇿 Efendi 14-May-21 06:31 PM

Yeah similar, ok provable though

Werewolves Bot A BOT 14-May-21 06:31 PM

Exorcist | Townsfolk Power Basics Each night, the Exorcist may remove negative effects from one player. Details Each night, the Exorcist can exorcise one player. All negative effects caused by solo roles are removed from the player and the Exorcist is informed which effects were removed. Players that have already been exorcised can not be exorcised again. The Exorcist can not cure players if they have changed role as the result of an effect, such as the Undead, but can still remove other possible effects the Undead has. The solo team who's effect is cured is informed about this. Negative Effects The following effects can be removed by the Exorcist: Enchanted - Flute Team Soulless - Hell Team Powdered - Pyro Team Demonized - Underworld Team Blessed - Heaven Team Tainted - Graveyard Team Sleepless - Nightmare Team Herded - Flock Team Infected/Contagious - Disease Team Frozen - Ice Royals Team

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 14-May-21 06:32 PM

that's interesting, given they keep rambling on about a vampire or something then there could be one of those

🇦🇿 Efendi 14-May-21 06:32 PM

Yeah that's just what I was about to say

Could be coincidence, not sure 1 means the other, but of those that kinda seems the most likely TP role to be in play

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 14-May-21 06:33 PM

yeah exactly, there isn't a better time to put one in

🇦🇿 Efendi 14-May-21 06:33 PM

Assuming all the Vamp etc stuff isn't nonsense

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 14-May-21 06:34 PM

although, I'm not sure what role LoG is aluding to when he says he's sure there are no runners in game

or mostly sure

🇦🇿 Efendi 14-May-21 06:34 PM

hmmmmm

🇦🇿 Efendi Assuming all the Vamp etc stuff isn't nonsense

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 14-May-21 06:34 PM

that's true, I suppose a couple people/wolves could be blowing hot air up that to take focus

🇦🇿 Efendi 14-May-21 06:35 PM

Yeah. Looking at the solo roles before it is quite likely, and I guess if we have a town exorcist they'd be aware that sort of thing is even more likely out there so it could get around. Entirely supposition though

Hmmm, the no runners thing. TI? or a conclusion based on how many / what TM roles have been claimed?

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 14-May-21 06:36 PM

yeah that is true, plus with so few wolves maybe there is a nasty solo

🇦🇿 Efendi Hmmm, the no runners thing. TI? or a conclusion based on how many / what TM roles have been claimed?

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 14-May-21 06:36 PM

I was thinking a CS had checked all runner claims or something

cause he didn't say with certainty

Werewolves Bot A BOT 14-May-21 06:36 PM

Townsfolk Investigative Aura Teller Crowd Seeker Fortune Teller Huntsman Oracle Receptionist Coroner

Fortune Teller | Townsfolk Investigative Basics Each night, the Fortune Teller may check one player’s role. Details Each night, the Fortune Teller can inspect a player. The Fortune Teller will be told what their role is. Inspecting a player is an immediate ability. The Fortune Teller gains more information, but is affected by weak disguises and obstructions.

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 14-May-21 06:37 PM

But how do you know that no runners exist at all?

TIX — Today at 2:38 PM i can't be 100% certain, but given what I know, it's very unlikely

I'd say he already confirmed other roles in the same category as runner

🇦🇿 Efendi 14-May-21 06:38 PM

Hmmm. Yeah, that does sound like a runner claim, or multiple runner claims, have been checked

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 14-May-21 06:38 PM

but then he would know for sure

🇦🇿 Efendi 14-May-21 06:39 PM

tm

Werewolves Bot A BOT 14-May-21 06:39 PM

Townsfolk Miscellaneous Bard Bartender Child Citizen Cursed Civilian Fortune Apprentice Journalist Macho Ranger Runner Town Crier Trickster Acrobat Assistant Claimspace Cursed Civilian (Alt) Idiot

🇦🇿 Efendi 14-May-21 06:39 PM

3 of those, I'm 1

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 14-May-21 06:39 PM

so perhaps he has confirmed you and two others

and he is only hesitant cause of possible disguises or something

🇦🇿 Efendi 14-May-21 06:40 PM

Maybe, although I would have thought there'd be a number of tm claims

like ua are most likely to go in there you'd think

the power roles seem to mostly be provable

and info roles are very hard to sustain unless you have your own info sources

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 14-May-21 06:41 PM

this is all based upon a cs too, with TI's with singular powers there's no way he could have checked that many times

🇦🇿 Efendi 14-May-21 06:41 PM

which just leaves killing, unless you can kill you can't fake that

I think I'm slightly trusted 'cause my claim would be silly for most other alignments, but I don't get the impression I'm very trusted or anything (not that we've spoken much since I claimed)

Werewolves Bot A BOT 14-May-21 06:42 PM

Oracle | Townsfolk Investigative Basics Every night, the Oracle can select two players and see if they have the same alignment as each other. Details Each night, the Oracle can inspect two players. The Oracle will be told whether they have the same alignment or not. This result is not affected by disguises. The Oracle can select itself as one of the two players, but can only select each player once throughout the game. Inspecting players is an immediate ability. Unaligned roles have the same alignment as each other, solo roles on opposing teams do not.

🇦🇿 Efendi I think I'm slightly trusted 'cause my claim would be silly for most other alignments, but I don't get the impression I'm very trusted or anything (not that we've spoken much since I claimed)

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 14-May-21 06:43 PM

exactly the same boat as me

🇦🇿 Efendi 14-May-21 06:43 PM

Ok, Oracle is a Parity Cop that can target itself, kinda

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 14-May-21 06:43 PM

like I say, at this point I seem to be along for the ride

wolves will probably kill LoG tonight and then I'm back in the dark

🇦🇿 Efendi 14-May-21 06:44 PM

Me too, well not even much of a ride. Now Its the weekend I might just start being random at people for a laugh

Werewolves Bot A BOT 14-May-21 06:45 PM

Receptionist | Townsfolk Investigative Basics Each night, the Receptionist may check any role to determine the number of players currently alive with that role. Details Each night the Receptionist can get a status on a specific role. Checking the status of a specific role will let the Receptionist know how many players with that role are left in the game. Checking the status of a specific role is an immediate ability. Checking status on roles works on any role whether in the game or not. The Receptionist is affected by strong disguises.

🇦🇿 Efendi 14-May-21 06:45 PM

oh

That could be it

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 14-May-21 06:45 PM

ooof yeah

nice find

so he could be holding out in case of strong disguises

🇦🇿 Efendi 14-May-21 06:46 PM

Well, if there was someone strong-disguised as a Runner then Receptionist would have been told there is one

Not that many roles have strong disguises iirc

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 14-May-21 06:47 PM

yeah that's true

🇦🇿 Efendi 14-May-21 06:47 PM

However, maybe he believes but isn't 100% sure about a potential receptionist

Would explain that statement

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 14-May-21 07:07 PM

like as in maybe the receptionist is faking?

🇦🇿 Efendi 14-May-21 07:08 PM

Yeah, as in he thinks they're real but can't be 100% sure yet

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 14-May-21 07:09 PM

That's true

🇦🇿 Efendi 14-May-21 07:09 PM

Without the roles being defined I can see that role being used

Certainly wouldn't make much sense with an open-list like before

Werewolves Bot A BOT 14-May-21 07:10 PM

Syntax error. Unknown command tk!

🇦🇿 Efendi 14-May-21 07:10 PM

tk

Werewolves Bot A BOT 14-May-21 07:10 PM

Townsfolk Killing Assassin Barber Cult Leader Executioner Huntress Mad Scientist Priest Witch

Mad Scientist | Townsfolk Killing Basics The Mad Scientist has two subjects, from two different teams. If killed, their targeted subject will also die. Details At the start of the game, the Mad Scientist is assigned two players. They interrogate their subjects and, before the Mad Scientist dies, they must choose one of the two assigned players to take with them to their death. If the Mad Scientist has not targeted a subject when they die, a random subject will be killed. They will have a secret channel together with their two targets, and they also have a channel alone, where they will decide on who they want to attack if they are killed. The two targets are always on two different teams (excluding Unaligned). These teams are either Townsfolk, Werewolves or any of the different Solo teams. The Mad Scientist can choose a target, even if the target is already dead. Attacking the other player is an immediate ability. When the Mad Scientist kills, they are revealed as the Mad Scientist.

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 14-May-21 07:11 PM

interesting

🇦🇿 Efendi 14-May-21 07:12 PM

unlikely though, no kills last night suggests maybe a witch?

Unless there's other protective roles I'm not aware of

And executioner is tk so only 1 role left there

Or I suppose wolves targeted something else, not a runner I guess lol, but surely they'd try to kill the mayor

fml this is complete guesswork

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 14-May-21 07:17 PM

That's before the mad scientist dies, not every night, so could be that

yeah I have no idea what the wolves are doing

but yeah, it's guesswork if they won't tell us stuff

🇦🇿 Efendi 14-May-21 07:23 PM

maybe we should go spam town_square lol

although all I really get from reading that is that jayanna has mad scum energy

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 14-May-21 07:25 PM

we could I guess ahah

yeah I have just stayed away cause idk wtf they're on about

🇦🇿 Efendi 14-May-21 07:26 PM

its a bit impenetrable yeah

Problem also is that like town isn't very big

LoG is town, at least one of us us, hopefully both, which assuming that for a moment only leaves 4 more if all still alive

So any random cc made is more likely to be non-town than town. Which is fine if you have a vague idea what is going on to know what to blag or look for or exploit

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 14-May-21 07:28 PM

yeah its a small game

yeah we both are I think

that's also the problem, we don't know these people and I swear I haven't talked to most of them before at all

so it's hard

Luffy is giving me weird vibes, but I say that every game ahah

🇦🇿 Efendi 14-May-21 07:30 PM

Hmmm. Last one he was playing fast because of mayor. Previous one he felt town from the very start to me

Other thing is, maybe if things are being played close, anti-town might not know that much about other people

Again, assuming you're good, only people I've even spoken to are you and LoG, so unless he leaked... basically I don't even know if randomly cc'ing people is a good idea or would actually give them more info than I'd get, which would be counterproductive

Might actually be better just to wait until asked to do something lol

Not that I think it even hurts much to leak my role but still, process of elimination etc, the less anti-town know the better usually. Unless they know lots already and its most of town who are in the dark

meh

🇦🇿 Efendi Hmmm. Last one he was playing fast because of mayor. Previous one he felt town from the very start to me

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 14-May-21 07:50 PM

Yeah idk, he seems a bit erratic to me aha

🇦🇿 Efendi Again, assuming you're good, only people I've even spoken to are you and LoG, so unless he leaked... basically I don't even know if randomly cc'ing people is a good idea or would actually give them more info than I'd get, which would be counterproductive

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 14-May-21 07:51 PM

He gives the impression he has a town trusted because he's getting the info from somewhere

🇦🇿 Efendi Might actually be better just to wait until asked to do something lol

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 14-May-21 07:51 PM

That's basically what I'm doing too

🇦🇿 Efendi Not that I think it even hurts much to leak my role but still, process of elimination etc, the less anti-town know the better usually. Unless they know lots already and its most of town who are in the dark

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 14-May-21 07:52 PM

Well wolves will be down at least one tonight and considering no one has reported being undead or poisoned or whatever then maybe one of the two dead was the nasty 3p

So anti Town could be in a bad way anyway ahah

🇦🇿 Efendi 14-May-21 07:53 PM

well getting reporter, assuming reporter is town, should help whoever is trusted figure some stuff out

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 14-May-21 07:58 PM

Yeah exactly

Let's us know what kinda position we are in

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 14-May-21 10:02 PM

Invisible votes on poll?

🇦🇿 Efendi 15-May-21 07:12 AM

were there?

Did another sleeping thing... not so sure being awake at 6am on a Saturday morning is good but nvm lol

🇦🇿 Efendi 15-May-21 07:51 AM

heh I really wish I knew what's going on more, but sounds like the lynches have been good

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 15-May-21 09:12 AM

Kinda but not really aha

They just confirmed time as angel

Idk, Log still won't tell me anything

🇦🇿 Efendi 15-May-21 10:12 AM

Have you claimed to anyone else?

I hope this isn't being kept too tight, not sure who else to talk to

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 15-May-21 10:21 AM

Only 1, I have no idea what's going on

Evidently trusted is being kept tight

🇦🇿 Efendi 15-May-21 10:24 AM

All I've picked up is the mayor resigning thing might be something to do with a possible vamp

I'm not sure they know what the solo threat is though, seems like guessing

Werewolves Bot A BOT 15-May-21 10:26 AM

Solo Categories Solo Killing (SK) Solo Power (SP) Solo Miscellaneous (SM)

Solo Power Flute Apprentice (Flute Team) Flute Player (Flute Team) Vampire (Underworld Team) Ice King (Ice Royals Team) Ice Queen (Ice Royals Team) Plaguebearer (Graveyard Team) Reaper (Nightmare Team) Shepherd (Flock Team)

Ice King | Solo Power - Ice Royals Team Basics Each night, the Ice King can submit a list of players. Every player the Ice King guesses correctly will have their public votes nulled. Details Each night, the Ice King can submit a list of players. The amount of guesses is limited by the amount of players at the start of the game. For every 5 players, the Ice King gets 1 guess. If they have submitted all their guesses, all the players that the Ice King guessed correctly will be frozen. Frozen players are not notified about this, but their votes will no longer count in the public votes. Instead the Ice King gains that vote. One exception is the mayor - the second mayor vote is still counted. Guessing roles and freezing players is an immediate ability. The Ice King is an ice royal, knows the other ice royals and works together with them. The ice royals win when all players, except the ice royals, are frozen or dead. When the Ice King dies, all frozen players will be unfrozen and their vote will count again.

Ice Queen | Solo Power - Ice Royals Team Basics Each night, the Ice Queen can submit the role of one player, and if that guess is correct, the Ice Queen is able to use the guessed player’s ability on the next day. Details Each night, the Ice Queen guesses the role of one player. If the guess is correct and the player has an ability, the Ice Queen is able to use this ability during the next day. If the guessed player has a night ability, then an end-night ability become end-day ability for the Ice Queen, and immediate night ability become an immediate day ability. Day ability stay the same, and passive or permanent abilities can also be used by the Ice Queen. At the end of the day, the ability is removed. After correctly guessing a player, the same player can’t be guessed again. For a list of abilities the Ice Queen can use, look at the edge case sheet. If the Ice Queen can’t use the ability of the guessed player, the guess is simply confirmed and nothing else happens. The Ice Queen is an ice royal, knows the other ice royals and works together with them. The ice royals win when all players, except the ice royals, are frozen or dead.

🇦🇿 Efendi 15-May-21 10:28 AM

idk if one can be without the other but not sure I can see those in this setup

Most of the rest seem to notify people though, enchant them or make them sleepless or whatever

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 15-May-21 10:36 AM

I don't get my Log is making an angel the mayor

Cause the angel needs to be lynched (edited)

To win

So idk what that's about

Werewolves Bot A BOT 15-May-21 10:37 AM

Angel | Unaligned Miscellaneous Basics The Angel wins when they are lynched. Details When the Angel wins, the Angel ascends and stops playing. The game continues. On all public votes the Angel starts out with -1 invisible votes. The Angel may select a player that dies when the Angel is lynched, if this player has voted for the Angel when the Angel is lynched, it is announced and they will also die. The Angel may change their target once per phase, with 1 emergency change to be used whenever the Angel wants to. The Angel cannot select themself. Targetting a player is an immediate effect. If they haven’t selected a valid target, a random player that has voted for the Angel is selected instead. If the Angel is lynched by unusual means (e.g. by the invisible Stalker votes or the Executioner selecting them) the player responsible for this will die with the Angel. If nobody except the Angel has voted for the Angel, nobody dies. If the Angel's target didn't vote for the Angel, but did put invisible votes on the Angel, they are considered a valid target.

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 15-May-21 10:37 AM

But yeah I have no idea about the solo threat either

Seems weird that no one has come forward as said they're undead or whatever

🇦🇿 Efendi 15-May-21 10:37 AM

yeah that's confusing me too, unless we simply don't know about it lol

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 15-May-21 10:38 AM

But why would anyone keep that a secret

Ohhh you mean they have just told trusted or something

🇦🇿 Efendi 15-May-21 10:38 AM

Yeah, or only wolves and they're working with the solo or something

Still seems unlikely

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 15-May-21 10:39 AM

Is that allowed?

🇦🇿 Efendi 15-May-21 10:39 AM

I have no idea

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 15-May-21 10:39 AM

This game is super weird

🇦🇿 Efendi 15-May-21 10:39 AM

Just thinking like idk, scum not revealing an infection from a slut in our games

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 15-May-21 10:40 AM

Do they do that?

🇦🇿 Efendi 15-May-21 10:40 AM

Yeah can do

Helps if the maf team has a mailing role

I've known a maf team mail a killer and strike a bargain

F'ers screwed me over (I was the other 3P killer)

But its not normal, maf teams usually use 3P as a distraction from themselves

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 15-May-21 10:45 AM

Okay, so maybe they are

But if they are working together then why would the solo have hit the wolves?

🇦🇿 Efendi 15-May-21 10:46 AM

true, doesn't make a lot of sense

depends what order things happened in maybe

But I really don't know, my own fault probably for not being chatty with random people early game like I meant to be

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 15-May-21 10:49 AM

Me too most likely

🇦🇿 Efendi 15-May-21 10:49 AM

I just figured in a small game my role wasn't worth obscuring but still shouldn't just be thrown about

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 15-May-21 10:49 AM

But with the role list not public its hard

🇦🇿 Efendi 15-May-21 10:51 AM

Its certainly different, when it is if you claim your role and nobody else claims it then you're kinda established easily

Sucks to actually be a runner or citizen

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 15-May-21 10:52 AM

But then you don't know if someone is claiming something random that might not even be in game

🇦🇿 Efendi 15-May-21 10:52 AM

If you're powerful then you've gotta be careful, but something like mine I could just have been flipant with 'cause nobody cares

Yeah in this case, absolutely, has to be a process of elimination with the categories I guess

and I bet all the dubious people claimed tm too so fml

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 15-May-21 10:53 AM

Yeah idk, I try to play all games as similarly as I can to minimise people reading me which, as you pointed out last game, I am not doing very well

Yeah and it really depends on what TI we have

As to the speed

🇦🇿 Efendi 15-May-21 10:54 AM

Nah I wouldn't say that

I think you always have to some chances in this format

Minimizing differences in play between alignments is very hard

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 15-May-21 10:56 AM

Yeah probably, but I am still learning werewolf in general, as well as this specific server type

So atm I'm staying cautious no matter what I think

🇦🇿 Efendi 15-May-21 10:57 AM

That's generally a good harm-minimisation tactic lol

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 15-May-21 10:57 AM

Well being lynched or killed is harm so minimising that would be ideal

🇦🇿 Efendi 15-May-21 10:58 AM

Depends... only point of my role appears to be to get killed at the right time

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 15-May-21 10:59 AM

Yeah it seems so

That shouldn't be too hard

Just tell them all you're the solo or something

Boom, dead

Unless they're already dead

🇦🇿 Efendi 15-May-21 11:01 AM

That's what I threaten Orctin with all the time lol

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 15-May-21 11:01 AM

The compulsive Miller?

🇦🇿 Efendi 15-May-21 11:01 AM

If you survive past N2 you get an award

Compulsive Miller Hider

With the classic definition of hider where it dies if it hides behind scum

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 15-May-21 11:02 AM

An award?

🇦🇿 Efendi 15-May-21 11:02 AM

Its basically a russian roulette role, do you get lynched or suicide first

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 15-May-21 11:02 AM

Tbh I'm not familiar with that role

🇦🇿 Efendi 15-May-21 11:03 AM

Ah, on the forums there's points so you put in a secret award for the player lol. To make it not a bastard role completely

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 15-May-21 11:03 AM

Oh hahah that's good

We should do awards here too, would be fun

Dead chat could vote

Give them something to do aha

🇦🇿 Efendi 15-May-21 11:04 AM

Rather than being more active than the game thread (on Orcs atm lol)?

(edited)

Spamming dead chat is one of my special skills

Mhysa keeps wanting to do a thing involving dead chat but I don't like the balance implications each time I look at it

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 15-May-21 11:05 AM

Well those people are already dead so it won't take away from game chat

Yeah it would be rough, but the roles they have here that contact dead chat are interesting

I honestly like their role list

The gameplay is easier to understand for me, idk why

🇦🇿 Efendi 15-May-21 11:07 AM

There's things I like and dislike about both

I do like in a thread-based format that a totally new player has access to everything the most experienced person in the game does (if same alignment)

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 15-May-21 11:08 AM

Yeah I like that too

🇦🇿 Efendi 15-May-21 11:08 AM

And on the face of it at first glance, both role lists are pretty impenetrable

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 15-May-21 11:08 AM

But it's still not exactly even, the more experienced person sees far more

🇦🇿 Efendi 15-May-21 11:09 AM

But the way the setup is defined here, if you put the effort in and especially if you have someone to help you with it, you can get a grip maybe on the totality of mechanics involved in 1 game easier

Oh yeah, knowing the role list on our side is a major advantage

That's why I don't like it when untested stuff is added willy nilly lol

And frankly, the oop and some of the role list we have is a mess

Well, it wouldn't be if we could ever gain a consensus on sorting some of it out

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 15-May-21 11:11 AM

Yeah that's what I found, I picked up things much quicker here. Like look at my past games here, I've been far more useful here than in the other server.

🇦🇿 Efendi 15-May-21 11:12 AM

I wouldn't necessarily agree. And part of that is because of early deaths

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 15-May-21 11:12 AM

The role list on the other server is much harder to understand for me, plus I like the pdf version here and the bots make things way easier

🇦🇿 Efendi 15-May-21 11:12 AM

Yeah that is very true about the bots

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 15-May-21 11:12 AM

Yeah the oop on the other server is sometimes confusing, here it's simpler I think

🇦🇿 Efendi 15-May-21 11:13 AM

Well they don't need one due to the way "actions" work

🇦🇿 Efendi I wouldn't necessarily agree. And part of that is because of early deaths

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 15-May-21 11:13 AM

I guess so, but I find it easier to survive here

🇦🇿 Efendi 15-May-21 11:13 AM

Ours is only supposed to be about conflict resolution

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 15-May-21 11:13 AM

I can fulfill my talking needs in cc's and avoid being sus in town square

🇦🇿 Efendi 15-May-21 11:13 AM

town square just is sus lol

🇦🇿 Efendi Well they don't need one due to the way "actions" work

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 15-May-21 11:14 AM

Yeah they all just seem to happen at the same time

🇦🇿 Efendi 15-May-21 11:14 AM

immediate, or end of phase, but the interactions don't really introduce the same kind of conflicts

You've never been maf though in one of our games, imho that's by far the most fun (with a decent team)

Here, regardless of being a bit isolated this game as town, the thing I'd least want to be in any game atm would be a wolf (edited)

I'm used to the maf team usually having way more knowledge than town, which is not what I've seen here so far (with a very small sample size admittedly)

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 15-May-21 11:38 AM

Yeah I want to be maf, mostly for the guidance and learning opportunity

Hmm I wouldn't mind being a wolf here, but not this game, town seem to be doing super well given they're fucking around making angel win apparently

Yeah that is true, here it seems town can gather quite quickly and wolves are then at a disadvantage

Well not disadvantage, but removes their advantage

🇦🇿 Efendi 15-May-21 11:48 AM

Yup, which seems like a big difference to me

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 15-May-21 12:00 PM

yeah it is

haven't really been wolves here tbh

but this game does seem like it would be one sided

7 town and two tk against 4 wolves

🇩🇪 Jendrik 15-May-21 12:02 PM

this season we've actually almost only had wolf wins

winners s6g1 - wolves s6g2 - wolves s6g3 - town s6g4 - wolves os6a - wolves os6b - wolves os6c - wolves/underworld tie (edited)

🇫🇷 Barbara Pravi 15-May-21 12:02 PM

well it ain't gonna be a wolf win this time ahah