Werewolves Revamped - carry-on-heron

Werewolves Bot B BOT 10-Jul-21 11:39 AM

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Carry on 10-Jul-21 11:39 AM

Heron 10-Jul-21 02:22 PM

hi

Heron 10-Jul-21 02:41 PM

any idea what's going on? I see townsquare's a bit busy.

Harvest Tomasala 10-Jul-21 02:41 PM

it's shitposting right now

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you can probably ask for a summary in #town_square

Carry on 10-Jul-21 04:50 PM

Ha, very very little so far I'm afraid

I've been trying to get my head around the hags, seem's Jay's claimed that and they want to make them mayor

But I have no idea of the meta stuff around it, and digging that out of the shitposting is hard af

Plus I think its a new role anyway so they may be making it up as they go along regardless

Heron 10-Jul-21 05:54 PM

Haha okay so that's an actual role

I thought it was meant to be an insult.

Werewolves Bot B BOT 10-Jul-21 05:54 PM

The Hags | Additional Information The Hags win if they're alive at the end of the game, as long as the winning team didn't wrong them. At the start of the game, the Hags can win with any team, but if a team wrongs the Hags, the Hags can no longer win with them. The Hags do not know each other, but always have the same win condition and alignment. If the Hags are wronged it is announced which team has wronged the Hags, even if no Hags are left. If all remaining teams have wronged the Hags, all remaining Hags turn into bitter hags. If a Hag is attacked, killed or has their role changed the team of the player responsible has wronged the Hags. If a Hag is lynched the team(s) which had the most votes on the lynched Hag has wronged the Hags. If a Hag is lynched by unusual means, the team of the player responsible has wronged the Hags. If a solo power role applies an effect to a Hag, they have wronged the Hags. Unaligned players cannot wrong the hags. Each Hag can use one specific spell. Hags may only use their spell once, however every time a Hag is wronged they gain an additional use for their spell. Hags are allowed to wait until their spell has several uses and then use it more than once in one night. Even when the Hags win condition is changed, they are still considered Unaligned (unless they turn into Bitter Hags). Use $i uah for a list of all hags.

Carry on 10-Jul-21 05:54 PM

Its several roles

Heron 10-Jul-21 05:55 PM

oh my

Carry on 10-Jul-21 05:55 PM

So far as I can figure, they start off as uncertain hags

Werewolves Bot B BOT 10-Jul-21 05:55 PM

Uncertain Hag | Unaligned Align | Limited Basics The Uncertain Hag can win with any team, unless that team has wronged the hags. The Uncertain Hag will turn into another hag at the end of the day. Details The Uncertain Hag is one of the hags ($i hags). At the start of the game, the Uncertain Hag may name one type of hag. At the end of the day the Uncertain Hag turns into one of the other hags, however they can not become the one they named nor can they immediately become a bitter hag. If the Uncertain Hag doesn't choose they can turn into any of the other hag roles (except bitter hag). The Uncertain Hag does not have a spell at the start of the game, but gains one later, as they turn into another hag.

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Carry on 10-Jul-21 05:56 PM

Then they turn into one of 3 others, one can kill, one investigate and one protect iirc

And if everyone "wrongs" them they turn into Bitter Hags, which can do all 3 actions

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Oh and every time they're wronged they get another action

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Heron 10-Jul-21 05:57 PM

haha a bitter hag

Carry on 10-Jul-21 05:58 PM

Almost none of the roles are ones that I've seen in a game here before

I think that is the most confusing to work out how it plays though maybe

Heron 10-Jul-21 06:00 PM

yeah! I don't know how to approach mine as well.

Carry on 10-Jul-21 06:00 PM

You got enchanted too I saw lol?

Heron 10-Jul-21 06:01 PM

where did you see that?

Carry on 10-Jul-21 06:01 PM

It was posted in town square a few times

You, Leila and whoever Adri is

Heron 10-Jul-21 06:02 PM

omg, I haven't really checked it. But yes, can confirm.

Liela and Asometric

I was tagged earlier today, in the middle of Orc's Psycho special.

Carry on 10-Jul-21 06:04 PM

Oh don't with that one

Flute stuff I still somehow don't really 'get' even though I have seen it in previous game

When poor Harry was stuck as the fpa lol, though it seems that's changed since then

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Heron 10-Jul-21 06:08 PM

I don't think it affects me much as I'm not an Inves Role.

We're just there

Carry on 10-Jul-21 06:11 PM

Yeah, I guess that chat is kinda pointless until late game trying to figure out who the FP might be

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Heron 10-Jul-21 06:14 PM

anyone else you've cc'd so far? I should really initiate the CC with you next time.

Carry on 10-Jul-21 06:15 PM

\o/

I have one with Ethan, one with Valk, and one with Dora & Prophet

None of them have anything especially useful in yet though

Valk is very lost

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as we all were first game, now we're just almost completely lost lol

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Carry on

Valk is very lost

Heron 10-Jul-21 06:17 PM

as expected

it's a completely diff format

Every new game, is another game to be completely lost again

Carry on

Almost none of the roles are ones that I've seen in a game here before

Harvest Tomasala 10-Jul-21 06:18 PM

nobody is familiar with these roles as we're using this as a game to test a bunch of new roles for the first time

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Carry on 10-Jul-21 09:35 PM

Fair point

On 10-Jul-21 09:35 PM

thats why i mostly let ts explain them

Harvest Tomasala 10-Jul-21 09:37 PM

I keep looking them up as well so I don't get it wrong

Carry on 12-Jul-21 06:39 PM

Hey Heron, how's your game going?

Heron 12-Jul-21 07:29 PM

Hey! It's not so bad, I don't think I'm inactive.

I claimed to Leila, Prophet and Valk, So there's that. I'm not sure I understand my role though. (edited)

When are you claiming?

Carry on 12-Jul-21 07:51 PM

You claimed to Leila?

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lol. I claimed to Prophet the instant he posted his role in Town Square yesterday, knew he wouldn't make a fake play there only to hold for like 4hrs

And I claimed to Dora before that because I totally believe she is what she says she is

Carry on

You claimed to Leila?

Heron 12-Jul-21 07:52 PM

for a change

Carry on 12-Jul-21 07:53 PM

Leila though, no thanks. I don't understand at all how people were even voting her mayor

Claimspace claim and people were voting within like 2 minutes without waiting for counters?

And then insisting Prophet had to blind kill someone to prove himself? (edited)

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That was kinda sus I thought, we were lucky Leila was only the despot, even if it did mess the polls up

Heron 12-Jul-21 07:55 PM

I didn't vote for her though

Wasn't sure if Herald is a good mayor material. I did claim to Prophet the minute he claimed too. (edited)

Carry on

And then insisting Prophet had to blind kill someone to prove himself? (edited)

Heron 12-Jul-21 07:56 PM

so what role did that player have?

Carry on 12-Jul-21 07:57 PM

Who? The person Prophet killed? I have no idea

I'm not really in the loop this game, have a few cc's and stuff but I've no idea who anyone was who died, although town square seems to think we lost townies last night if I read it right

Well, Ethan claimed amnesiac to me before he died, but he gives off too much sus energy for me to have bought it

Heron 12-Jul-21 08:21 PM

yeah, he just said he's bad. (edited)

I only have this, Valk's, Prophet, Liela, Snuggles and the Enchanted chat.

Where I met Leila

I told her I'm not TI so I didn't affect at all, and she just said the same thing.

Carry on 14-Jul-21 12:18 PM

So enchanted chat's where all the cool people hang out?

Heron 14-Jul-21 12:35 PM

is it? Orc's there too

Carry on 14-Jul-21 01:09 PM

Oh, good point well made

Heron 14-Jul-21 01:35 PM

don't you think it was a waste that Astra resigned and then now running again for Mayor

Carry on 14-Jul-21 05:29 PM

I don't really understand why we'd want a Hag mayor

The first time it made sense I guess just to tide the day over, but now? Idk.

Heron 14-Jul-21 05:43 PM

I cc'd the Prophetic Hag, just trying to gauge if they'll help Town, and he doesn't think that it's a good idea.

Carry on 14-Jul-21 05:44 PM

Oooof

Now which one's that, LoG? I've known what Dora was for ages, she's always felt townsided this game

I'm not sure they're all that unified a group

Heron 14-Jul-21 05:45 PM

yeah Galactic guy, the one with a Cinnamon Pug PFP

Carry on 14-Jul-21 05:49 PM

Right, he's the one Dora thought was faking hag for time until the Jury result

Kinda funny it was really Bob

Like of course it was Bob

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Prophet still wasn't sure about Dora yesterday, he was asking for my read on her. About the only thing he did ask me for lol

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I told him I was really sure she was the Hag, and that I'd bet it was a reg faking hag, nobody relatively new to this would have thought that a good idea imho

Heron 14-Jul-21 06:02 PM

She said she's a specific Hag, not a bitter one but something more special.

Prophet just asked me for Enchanted players.

Did Valk claim to you also? I told her not to claim to anyone not confirmed.

Carry on 14-Jul-21 06:09 PM

No, the only 2 people I've claimed fully to and who've claimed to me are Dora and Prophet

I've chatted with Valk a bit early game, just being nice with a few bits of info about the game

Then I suggested she try out cc'ing people with you or Dora

Given its her first game, well if she's bad I didn't want to find out early, feels like picking on the new person

She was definitely genuinely lost was all I picked up

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Heron 14-Jul-21 07:36 PM

yeah and busy with a mobile game server merge. I know that's toxic.

She claimed to me after I claimed.

I believe she's Town

I added Prophet in the chat after he was confirmed, but that's it.

I'm bored and no clue on who to vote.

Omg, Orc is scummy

Why is he always on the opposite pole when I'm playing.

Carry on 14-Jul-21 07:41 PM

Lol, Orc is very scummy

What's he done now?

Heron 14-Jul-21 07:41 PM

posted on Town square

Carry on 14-Jul-21 07:41 PM

Oh, that place

lemme see

Heron 14-Jul-21 07:42 PM

rallying for Hags to lynch Cloud instead

Carry on 14-Jul-21 07:42 PM

Oooooh

Hmmm, town can't win eh?

He's confident for someone squirming to escape a yeet

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Hmmm, enchanted

How many of us?

heron - what - genten - okabe - Hurry - me (edited)

Oh

Hags are unaligned

So they win with the Flute team

Heh, they're kinda right. I wonder how many of them there are really though

Not getting the identity of anyone who dies sucks hard

Carry on

Not getting the identity of anyone who dies sucks hard

Heron 14-Jul-21 08:57 PM

indeed! are you sure you're not Wolf?

pretty sure you're sane though

Carry on 14-Jul-21 08:58 PM

Sane? This is not a psycho game

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But no, I'm a good person. Are you a wolf?

Heron 14-Jul-21 09:00 PM

I'm Le Herald

Carry on 14-Jul-21 09:00 PM

Ahahaha

That's what Orc said he was to me earlier before he went full scum

Heron 14-Jul-21 09:00 PM

That's what I claimed to Leila

Carry on 14-Jul-21 09:00 PM

I'm an amnesiac who turned into an acrobat

Hence keeping quiet in my corner

Werewolves Bot B BOT 14-Jul-21 09:01 PM

Acrobat | Townsfolk Miscellaneous | Limited Basics Twice per game, if attacked by a werewolf team member, the Acrobat shall escape. Details When they are attacked, the Acrobat will not die, but after the second attack they will be vulnerable to future attacks. Acrobats are informed that they were attacked. If an Acrobat evades a wolfpack kill, the wolfpack is told their target ran away. If an Acrobat evades a kill from a wolf outside of the pack, that wolf is informed instead. If an Acrobat is targeted by any attack other than a werewolf attack, they will die the first time.

Heron 14-Jul-21 09:01 PM

like a Runner?

why don't you run?

...for Mayor

Carry on 14-Jul-21 09:03 PM

Honestly? Because town doesn't trust me

So outing myself to wolves just makes my role useless

Heron 14-Jul-21 09:03 PM

idk who to trust

I'm just bored and out of the loop

Carry on 14-Jul-21 09:04 PM

Apparently there's a conflict with Ethan claiming amnesiac too

And it was me told Prophet that's what he claimed lol

Heron 14-Jul-21 09:04 PM

So Prophet believes Ethan?

Carry on 14-Jul-21 09:05 PM

Well Ethan died real early

He cc'd me D1, we claimed anmesiac to each other

I told Prophet that, got the impression he didn't know it before. Idk if Ethan claimed it to anyone else

I didn't believe him, at all, fwiw

Heron 14-Jul-21 09:06 PM

hard without a reporter

Carry on 14-Jul-21 09:07 PM

Yup

Heron 14-Jul-21 09:08 PM

Maybe you can help me with mine. I picked Juror as my target earlier, haven't changed it since I first night. Haven't gotten any info from those that died.

Idk if there's a better role to pick.

Werewolves Bot B BOT 14-Jul-21 09:09 PM

Herald | Townsfolk Power | Limited Basics The Herald selects a role and is informed when the last player with that role dies. Details The Herald may immediately change their target once per phase, with 1 emergency change to be used whenever the Herald wants to. If several players die at the same time the Herald is not informed which of the players had their selected role. If there are no players of the selected role, or if the last player with the selected role changes to a different role, the Herald is not informed. The Herald is not affected by any disguises.

Carry on 14-Jul-21 09:10 PM

Hmmmm. Does it have to be a town role lol?

You could set it to flute apprentice

But idk what is left in town, I'm completely out of the loop too

Harp's claiming assistant, idk if she's the last of those claims left alive but I guess possibly not

Feels like it would be nice to kinda use it to confirm or deny someone dying, in the absence of a reporter

But you might have to ask trusted town if you know who that is, I don't rn they've not contacted me since Prophet died, he should have set that up really.

Heron 14-Jul-21 09:22 PM

I asked him that

Carry on

Hmmmm. Does it have to be a town role lol?

Heron 14-Jul-21 09:22 PM

doesn't have to be one

good idea on F App.. I'll change that

now (edited)

Flute Player now right?

Carry on 14-Jul-21 09:24 PM

Ah yeah I guess

Heron 14-Jul-21 09:24 PM

before they lynch anyone

Werewolves Bot B BOT 14-Jul-21 09:25 PM

Flute Apprentice | Solo Power - Flute Team Basics The Flute Apprentice is a Flute Player that can’t enchant other players; instead, they can become the Flute Player if no Flute Players remain. Additionally, the Flute Apprentice can redirect the abilities of enchanted players. Details The Flute Apprentice may target a player, and update this target whenever they like. If any player that is enchanted uses an ability on the Flute Apprentice, the ability is instead redirected onto the Flute Apprentice's target. The original player is not informed about this. If no Flute Players remain, the Flute Apprentice turns into a Flute Player and loses their redirection power.

Carry on 14-Jul-21 09:25 PM

Yeah, they become the Flute Player

Maybe check with the hosts, but I think it'd be Player you'd set it to

I am not sure of the numbers at all, this feels like it is close between wolves & town, prob depends on Hag votes etc who wins, but the numbers work out far as I can see, Flute wins tomorrow if not dead by then

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Seems like a sensible utility of your role to me anyway

Heron 14-Jul-21 09:28 PM

I asked early on and it's role

I was hoping Flute Apprentice died when no new players were enchanted. But you were added earlier so...

Carry on 14-Jul-21 09:32 PM

Yeah, defo they're alive with that happening

Heron 14-Jul-21 09:32 PM

unless it's you?

Carry on 14-Jul-21 09:32 PM

Can't be

Host message, I was enchanted

Pretty sure flute can't enchant itself

Heron 14-Jul-21 09:33 PM

okioki, I believe you. It was an old role description of The apprentice that they can visit enchanted chat

Carry on 14-Jul-21 09:33 PM

Anyway, I'm definitely not. If I could be, so could you....

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Yeah, that was weird before

And they didn't take the role over

I think the change is probably good, although flute is feeling a bit OP rn

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Like if they hadn't missed one night they'd win if this yeet is wrong

Carry on

Anyway, I'm definitely not. If I could be, so could you....

Heron 14-Jul-21 09:35 PM

This is you and Prophet in Orc's Psycho game.

Carry on 14-Jul-21 09:36 PM

Heh. I knew that was a host mistake almost immediately

I only got slightly annoyed that he couldn't read initially that there was no way I'd be lying deliberately in that spot

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But it is easy to get myopic when your result says something right in front of your face (edited)

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Heron 14-Jul-21 09:37 PM

True, Yeet Orc

Carry on 14-Jul-21 09:39 PM

Always

Although not today

lol

Heron 14-Jul-21 09:40 PM

I changed it to FP, I hope it's not too late though. If Orc gets lynched as Wolf, then FP can enchant 3 again... so probably not good timing to Lynch him.

only 20 mins left right?

Carry on 14-Jul-21 09:41 PM

Yup, your change should be good I think.

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And yeah, unfortunately, the maths is solid

Town and wolves both need the fpa dead

The hags however don't, idk I hope this really is the FPA

Heron 14-Jul-21 09:50 PM

uhm, what happened?

Carry on 14-Jul-21 09:51 PM

Oh lol

I saw that before, what's it called

Werewolves Bot B BOT 14-Jul-21 09:51 PM

Direwolf | Werewolf Killing | Limited Basics The Direwolf may attack two people every night if they are the last player left in the pack. Details If, at the start of the night, the Direwolf is the last remaining member of the wolfpack, the wolfpack will be able to attack an additional player. Usually, this means the Direwolf will be able to attack two people, but in some situations the amount of attacks and the attacker may also be influenced by other roles/abilities.

Carry on 14-Jul-21 09:51 PM

No

Werewolves Bot B BOT 14-Jul-21 09:51 PM

Database error. Could not find role corrupt!

Corrupt Wolf | Werewolf Power | Limited Basics Once per game, the Corrupt Wolf may cancel the election. Details The Corrupt Wolf may cancel the election at any time of day or night, and it will apply to the current (or if there is none the next) election. If there are several elections the Corrupt Wolf may only cancel one of them. Cancelling the election is an immediate ability. However, the fact that the election has been canceled will only be revealed at the end of the day. Cancelling the election results in nobody getting elected from the election that day.

Carry on 14-Jul-21 09:52 PM

That's it

Wolves cancelled the mayor vote for Jay

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Heron 14-Jul-21 10:04 PM

okay

Carry on 14-Jul-21 10:04 PM

If you didn't just get told the FP died, I'd consider telling town square

I'm not sure, there's the risk of public claiming ofc, but if wolves need to kill them tonight then that might stop them killing any more of us (although they can come at me lol)

Heron 14-Jul-21 10:05 PM

no info, but I'll verify with hosts.

Heron 14-Jul-21 10:18 PM

no info

Carry on 14-Jul-21 10:18 PM

Yeah, honestly the way Harp reacted in town square looked genuine

But that was supposedly from town trusted, wolves thought it was Cloud

Hmmm

Its probably someone totally different. 2 more shots to stop them winning, and 1 is wolves call.

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Heron 14-Jul-21 10:22 PM

I'm hoping they'll leave me be since i targeted competition

anyway, I'll be sleeping. it's 4:22. Laters!

Carry on 14-Jul-21 10:24 PM

I think you're good, wolves have to try for the fp tonight

Night, sleep well

Carry on 15-Jul-21 04:52 PM

Oh crumbs. Cloud wasn't FP either?

Wtf

Who died the night before... Prophet, defo wasn't him. Bob

Oh, Bob.

He was faking Hag I believe from what Dora said. Maybe it was him and flute team is dead

This game is excessively confusing

Carry on 15-Jul-21 06:11 PM

Sowwwwwy!

Heron 15-Jul-21 06:20 PM

Carry on 15-Jul-21 06:22 PM

lol

like you're obviously town

Heron 15-Jul-21 07:26 PM

Sometimes I wonder about the age bracket of the players in this server. Just a random thought.

Carry on 15-Jul-21 07:27 PM

Don't tell them how old I am

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When I told Luffy my age in a previous game he was well shocked!

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Heron 15-Jul-21 07:30 PM

so majority here are kids huh?

it's the tone I imagine in my head every time i read their arguments.

Carry on 15-Jul-21 07:33 PM

I think the average age is a bit younger than Orc's server. Although Tony, Orc & I do pull that average up quite a lot just ourselves haha

Tony especially

Heron 15-Jul-21 07:33 PM

Ravon too

I think he's oldest

Carry on 15-Jul-21 07:35 PM

Oh yeah, Ravon too, how could I forget Ravon