Werewolves Revamped - white-werewolf

MP BOT 05-Jun-20 03:18 PM

White Werewolf | Solo Killing Basics The White Werewolf is a werewolf who is not satisfied with merely killing the townsfolk; they must kill all the werewolves as well. On even numbered nights, the White Werewolf may kill a member of the wolfpack. Details To the werewolves, the White Werewolf will appear to be a regular wolf. However, it is the White Werewolf’s goal to win the game completely alone; even the other werewolves must die. Killing a member of the wolfpack is an end night ability. If only werewolves and the White Werewolf are left alive, the game will continue until either all werewolves are dead or the White Werewolf is dead. The White Werewolf is strongly disguised as a regular wolf as long as they live.

Cassowary 05-Jun-20 04:00 PM

Good luck have fun

Flamingo 05-Jun-20 04:02 PM

How am I supposed to win this

Cassowary 05-Jun-20 04:09 PM

Use your egirl charm

Jake 05-Jun-20 04:09 PM

show me your egirl charm

Kiwi 05-Jun-20 05:11 PM

Go meuh Go meuh Go meuh You can do it!

Jake 05-Jun-20 05:13 PM

Go meuh Go meuh Go meuh You can do it!

we're cheerleaders now

Elephant Bird 05-Jun-20 05:13 PM

cheerbirbs

Kiwi 05-Jun-20 05:13 PM

Yes we are your birb cheerleaders

Blu 05-Jun-20 05:14 PM

Go meuh Go meuh Go meuh You can do it!

Jake 05-Jun-20 10:05 PM

You cannot kill tonight

Flamingo 05-Jun-20 10:42 PM

pls

MP BOT 05-Jun-20 11:09 PM

Signed Up Players | Total: 27

- Sharl Eclair (@Owl)

- Meuh (@Flamingo)

- kruthers (@Falcon)

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- Savannah (@Dove)

- Raffhawk09 (@Hawk)

- Jayanna (@Finch)

- PsychoBelp (@Chicken)

- Lord of Galaxy (@Duck)

- DragonEye3k (@Macaw)

- Angel_of_Death (@Albatross)

- SpikedJackson (@Vulture)

- jej (@Sparrow)

- nexus (@Pigeon)

- federick (@Booby)

- Darkgamerboi05 (@Hornbill)

- Topkinsme (@Ostrich)

️ - Internet Alien (@Toucan)

- Wyatt (@Eagle)

- Carrot Playz (@Goose)

- tomh (@Lovebird)

- Captain Luffy (@Tit)

- Raven1207 (@Raven)

- Cdw849 (@Cockatoo)

- Leilaboo (@Cardinal)

- ~Steilsson~ (@Penguin)

- Steinator (@Woodpecker)

- BartTheBart (@Crow)(edited)

Cassowary 06-Jun-20 02:12 AM

You can't kill tonight but you already killed me with your charm

Flamingo 06-Jun-20 04:42 AM

❤️

MP BOT 06-Jun-20 06:37 PM

✅ Created #steilmeuh!

✅ Created #cdwuffy!

Flamingo 06-Jun-20 06:42 PM

6J#2o3$

Jake 06-Jun-20 10:19 PM

You can kill! (if you want) @Bird

Flamingo 06-Jun-20 10:31 PM

Raven for now

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Elephant Bird 07-Jun-20 10:02 PM

You cannot kill tonight

Flamingo 07-Jun-20 10:03 PM

:((

I probably wouldn’t have anyway

MP BOT 08-Jun-20 12:39 AM

✅ Created #tomeuh!

Flamingo 08-Jun-20 12:51 AM

Vamp

Vam

MP BOT 08-Jun-20 12:51 AM

Vampire | Underworld Power Basics The Vampire wins by secretly turning all the living players into undead. The Vampire demonizes players; if a demonized player is attacked in the night, they will instead turn into an undead. Details Each night, the Vampire may demonize a player. On even numbered nights, the Vampire may demonize a second player. The target will not know about it by that time. When a demonized player is attacked, they will turn into an undead. The Vampire wins the game, along with the undead, if all players are either Vampire, dead or undead. If there are several Vampires, they work together. Demonizing a player is an immediate ability.

Flamingo 08-Jun-20 12:54 AM

WAIT HOLD UP

@Host can I kill myself with my night kill?

I’m technically a member of the wolfpack

Elephant Bird 08-Jun-20 12:55 AM

wouldnt that go against your current win condition?

Jake 08-Jun-20 12:55 AM

it goes against your win condition

Flamingo 08-Jun-20 12:55 AM

Would give me a new better win condition

Jake 08-Jun-20 12:55 AM

so killing yourself is gamethrowing

Flamingo 08-Jun-20 12:55 AM

Improving my odds of winning wouldn’t be gamethrowing though?

Jake 08-Jun-20 12:56 AM

it would, as killing yourself makes it so you go against your current win condition (www cant kill www because then www would lose)

Flamingo 08-Jun-20 12:57 AM

Why is gamethrowing defined as following your win con when there’s an alternative to following your win con that ultimately makes your odds of winning greater?

Gamethrowing should be when you do something that lowers your odds of winning in any way

If I have another way to win that benefits me more, why not?

uwu let me kill myself pls

Jake 08-Jun-20 01:12 AM

we want people to play their roles as intended

we've had this in the past, and it ruined the game for a lot of people

Flamingo 08-Jun-20 01:13 AM

But why put game mechanics which end up making people play their roles in unintended ways?

How would this ruin the game?

Jake 08-Jun-20 01:13 AM

you're not supposed to want to be undead, as that goes against your own wincondition

Flamingo 08-Jun-20 01:14 AM

But wanting to be undead aligns with my best shot at winning

Jake 08-Jun-20 01:14 AM

wanting to be turned undead is against your wincon

Flamingo 08-Jun-20 01:14 AM

I’m a player, not a role

How would me killing myself impact the game negatively?

Elephant Bird 08-Jun-20 01:22 AM

your win condition is to win as www so that's what you're supposed to aim for. I don't want to give anything away on the status of the underworld, but even if we would let you kill yourself, you wouldn't be able to know for sure it your chances of winning would actually increase

Flamingo 08-Jun-20 01:24 AM

The thing is, gamethrowing is only when you intentionally do something that hurt your chances of winning, I think killing myself makes these chances the greatest. If it doesn’t, then I still didn’t gamethrow

I think killing myself is my best option

Jake 08-Jun-20 01:25 AM

gamethrowing is not playing according to your wincondition

killing yourself is not playing according to your wincon

Elephant Bird 08-Jun-20 01:25 AM

even then, don't you think they could trick you into killing yourself even if you arent demonized?

Jake 08-Jun-20 01:26 AM

you can never know for sure wether or not you're demonized, thus killing yourself is gamethrowing

Flamingo 08-Jun-20 01:26 AM

That’s a better argument

“You shouldn’t do something because it goes against the rules” doesn’t mean much when the rules I disagree with in the first place

I think that definition of gamethrowing was likely made by people playing without conversion of any kind

Should be updated to this

Also, let’s say I think there’s a 75% chance I’m demonized and there’s an 75% chance I win if I become undead (56% chance to win if I kill myself in this scenario) , but if I don’t kill myself I have a 25% chance to win, taking that risk would still be advantageous

Cause then by your argument, taking any risk that might hurt your chances to win or even eradicate them is bad

But people are still able to take risks

Flamingo 08-Jun-20 01:52 AM

uwu I wanna kill myself

Jake 08-Jun-20 01:53 AM

You can't kill tonight, and you can't kill yourself either

Flamingo 08-Jun-20 01:53 AM

:(((((

Sobbing rn

#justiceformeuh

Cassowary 08-Jun-20 02:29 AM

if how we had defined gamethrowing and win-con like what you said then a lot more cursed civs will go wolf side and everyone wants to be vamp team

we had this problem in the past

Flamingo 08-Jun-20 02:30 AM

Then build rolelists that are balanced around people being allowed to try to switch teams(edited)

Instead of having this blurry line limit people’s play to its fullest potential

Blu 08-Jun-20 11:47 AM

mmmmmmmmmm no.

Jake 08-Jun-20 11:50 AM

we don't allow people to try and switch teams so we will not build role lists around that

Flamingo 08-Jun-20 02:33 PM

Vamp

Vam

MP BOT 08-Jun-20 02:33 PM

Vampire | Underworld Power Basics The Vampire wins by secretly turning all the living players into undead. The Vampire demonizes players; if a demonized player is attacked in the night, they will instead turn into an undead. Details Each night, the Vampire may demonize a player. On even numbered nights, the Vampire may demonize a second player. The target will not know about it by that time. When a demonized player is attacked, they will turn into an undead. The Vampire wins the game, along with the undead, if all players are either Vampire, dead or undead. If there are several Vampires, they work together. Demonizing a player is an immediate ability.

MP BOT 08-Jun-20 02:42 PM

✅ Created #sharlmeuh!

Flamingo 08-Jun-20 03:05 PM

Pyr

MP BOT 08-Jun-20 03:05 PM

Pyromancer | Pyro Killing Basics Each night, the Pyromancer may either powder a player or ignite all currently powdered players. The Pyromancer wins when they are the last one alive. Details Each night the Pyromancer may either powder or ignite all currently powdered people. Powdering is an immediate ability, and igniting is an end night ability. If there are several Pyromancers, they work together.

MP BOT 08-Jun-20 03:30 PM

✅ Created #the_snipers!

Flamingo 08-Jun-20 04:25 PM

May

MP BOT 08-Jun-20 04:25 PM

Mayor | Elected Basics The Mayor leads the town. They have the privilege of being able to post in #story_time and receive an extra vote in polls. When there are more than 15 living players, instead of an extra vote the Mayor chooses each day whether the top one or the top two players being voted on will be lynched. Details The Mayor can be a powerful role to help either the innocent team or the werewolves team, but they tend to garner a lot of attention and may be killed quickly. If the Mayor misuses their ability to post in #story_time, they may be demoted or killed at the discretion of the Game Masters. If there is no mayor, the lynch vote always only kills the top voted player.

Flamingo 08-Jun-20 04:26 PM

Sca

Sw

MP BOT 08-Jun-20 04:26 PM

Scared Wolf | Werewolf Miscellaneous Basics The Scared Wolf will be protected from the first night attack to target them. Details The Scared Wolf is the runner of the werewolves. If it is attacked by anyone at night, it will escape unharmed the first time. After being attacked once, it will lose its ability.

Elephant Bird 08-Jun-20 10:02 PM

You can kill tonight

Blu 08-Jun-20 10:02 PM

MURDER TIME

Flamingo 08-Jun-20 10:02 PM

Wow lame I don’t even wanna kill anyone :((

Assassin and cult did my job for me

MP BOT 08-Jun-20 10:04 PM

✅ Created #wymeuh!

Elephant Bird 09-Jun-20 04:13 PM

DEAD BIRB