Werewolves Revamped

Zhanir BOT 03-Jun-19 09:50 PM

@dayy has created a new CC! Members: @Arch @dayy

dayy 03-Jun-19 09:50 PM

I'm your servant, ready to be your service.

However please do note that we can't be caught talking together. The marks are against the non-marks. It's a shame that we are seperated by such stupid argument, master.

McTsts 03-Jun-19 09:54 PM

ew marks

Arch 03-Jun-19 11:29 PM

@McTsts side with Non marks. Marhjo will be the leader of all Marks. Ewww

McTsts 03-Jun-19 11:29 PM

Yeah I'm a non mark

dayy 04-Jun-19 06:40 AM

Tsark is a non-mark

dayy 04-Jun-19 08:47 AM

ARCH @Arch

I'm ww. U solo?

Arch 04-Jun-19 08:47 AM

I'm unaligned

Oof

dayy 04-Jun-19 08:48 AM

Uh u wanna copy me or no?

Arch 04-Jun-19 08:48 AM

~~wait what kind of ww~~

dayy 04-Jun-19 08:48 AM

If youre cupid dont pick me

Hehehehe

Arch 04-Jun-19 08:49 AM

But dayy I'm scared of being targeted by the www since if I join u I will be confirmed not scared wolf

IMO don't let any cupids/lookalikes copy a ww

dayy 04-Jun-19 08:49 AM

Yeah fair

Ah shit this game is chaotic Arch

I wanna be archangel/demon :(

I tell u this

Fried wanted to copy me, but after i claim I'm ww he changes his mind to other

It's stupid of me, yeah. But I was just wondering if he's LA or not

checking if he's look alike or not

btw arch im at kampung atm uwu

Arch 04-Jun-19 08:56 AM

I mean, Fried is a honest and a follower type

~~unlike me~~

I'm 80% sure he's LA if he says so

dayy 04-Jun-19 08:56 AM

:(((

Okay arch

GL to you hope u find Arch-angel

Arch 04-Jun-19 09:08 AM

Aye

Arch 05-Jun-19 03:27 PM

Hey dayy

You're a zombie now?

Great! We're a team now

@dayy Now you have to claim that I'm cupid choosing you as your lover in ww chat and vote Internet alien.

McTsts 05-Jun-19 03:28 PM

I don't want to question your strategy because I don't know what it is, but you do know that Cupid/WW is solo, right?

Arch 05-Jun-19 03:36 PM

@McTsts I thought cupid/ww win with wolves?

McTsts 05-Jun-19 03:36 PM

no

Arch 05-Jun-19 03:36 PM

What

McTsts 05-Jun-19 03:36 PM

That has never been how it works

Arch 05-Jun-19 03:36 PM

Pretty sure that's how it is

McTsts 05-Jun-19 03:36 PM

Cupid/WW has always according to the rules won completely on their one

Since season 1

Only exeception s3g1

Because the gms changed the rules for that game specifically

And I would know because I was in a Cupid/WW pairing twice

Arch 05-Jun-19 03:37 PM

How about that game with Kroppeb and you as cupid choosing wolf?

McTsts 05-Jun-19 03:37 PM

in s1g3 (first time I was in Cupid/WW) it was that way and when I returned (s2g8) it was still in the rules and is to this day (edited)

The rules said we were solo

We weren't

As I said: Only exception

That was s3g1

Arch 05-Jun-19 03:38 PM

:/

McTsts 05-Jun-19 03:38 PM

If Cupid/WW would win with WW then Cupid would be a 'lame' Look-Alike

Since it's essentially the same w/o joining

Arch 05-Jun-19 03:39 PM

Nooo I'm pretty sure you said cupid and wolves worked together smh but last game chat logs were deleted

McTsts 05-Jun-19 03:39 PM

They don't

It has said so in the rules until before s3g2 when we moved it to the sheet

Arch 05-Jun-19 03:40 PM

~~Boy don't complicate things~~

McTsts 05-Jun-19 03:40 PM

Cupid is not a lame Look-Alike and will never be. What's the point of the role if it essentially just copies the win condition

It would just be Look-Alike but only copies win condition and not ability

We will never make it that

If we want copying win conditions in the game we just add Look-Alike

If the purpose of the role is too copy, Look-Alike is the better one to play (and also the one we use more commonly) (edited)

Arch 05-Jun-19 03:41 PM

Ugh I remember talking about this with Marhjo

And you

McTsts 05-Jun-19 03:42 PM

If we made Cupid they way you wanted, we might as well remove it

It wouldn't serve a purpose anymore

I don't remember talking to you about this

Where was that supposed to be?

Arch 05-Jun-19 03:43 PM

Yeah something like "does cupid/town win with town and does cupid/wolf win with wolves"

Last game exactly I think

Or two games ago???

It was very recent

McTsts 05-Jun-19 03:44 PM

Funnily enough I suggested a role that would be an alternative to Cupid that does exactly that to some other gms

But we figured out it really would just be a lame Look-Alike

It doesn't add anything Look-Alike or Cupid don't already do

Arch 05-Jun-19 03:45 PM

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McTsts 05-Jun-19 03:45 PM

Are you sure you didn't talk about it during s3g1 with some non-me gms

Arch 05-Jun-19 03:45 PM

Then what the fuck should I do lmao

McTsts 05-Jun-19 03:45 PM

Well I guess not this strategy

Arch 05-Jun-19 03:45 PM

I even mentioned that in other ww versions that cupid/matchmaker is a solo role

McTsts 05-Jun-19 03:45 PM

Or you tell them that's how Cupid works

Arch 05-Jun-19 03:45 PM

But you said this cupid is different

McTsts 05-Jun-19 03:46 PM

Cupid is Unaligned

Arch 05-Jun-19 03:46 PM

But you'll clarify

McTsts 05-Jun-19 03:46 PM

I won't if I know it's a scheme

Only if they ask

Still not very safe tho

Arch 05-Jun-19 03:46 PM

I saw dayy online on the other server why isn't she online omfgggggg

McTsts 05-Jun-19 03:46 PM

Cupid isn't Solo, Cupid is Town-ish

If Cupid picks Town they are Town

If Cupid picks Wolf they are Solo

Arch 05-Jun-19 03:46 PM

Dude did u just contradict yourself lol

Wait nvm

You said cupid is solo then u went he's unaligned

McTsts 05-Jun-19 03:47 PM

Cupid/WW is Solo (Completely on their own) (edited)

Cupid/Town is Town

Cupid/Vampire is Vampire/Solo (edited)

Cupid/Despot is Despot/Unaligned (edited)

Arch 05-Jun-19 03:47 PM

Then I'll claim devil publicly

To wolves

Ahhhhh this just turned into a shit of clusterfuck

McTsts 05-Jun-19 03:48 PM

Cupid has worked this way since when the Werewolves server was started xD

Cupid/Lover team usually has the win condition of Town combined with the win condition of the Lover, excluding both Lover and Cupid from the win condition

There are some edge case: If the Lover can ascends the Town win condition is ignored

If the Lover is a Vampire/Undead, the Cupid is automatically counted as Undead (even if he isn't) since they will always just turn them undead at the end, so we just do it automatically

Same for other solo roles with similar effects

Cupid is definitely one of the reasons why we have an edge case spreadsheet

Arch 05-Jun-19 03:55 PM

Can you stop posting here and do it on my private I was hoping dayy would get on but you crushed my hope with that channel new message notifications @McTsts

dayy 05-Jun-19 04:46 PM

50 messaages what the fuck Archie

I'm so confused

Whisper Bot BOT 05-Jun-19 04:48 PM

Cupid | Unaligned Basics The Cupid chooses a player to be their lover, and forms an inseparable team with that player. Details During the first night, the cupid must choose a player to become their lover. If the cupid does not choose in time, they will fall in love with a random player. The lover is added to the cupid’s secret channel. The cupid and their lover form an inseparable team; they can no longer vote to kill each other, and they will die if the other player dies. After the cupid has chosen their lover, they will NOT turn into an innocent. Choosing a lover is an immediate effect; the couple will immediately fall in love with each other. By default the Cupid wins with the townsfolk team. If the lover is on a different team, they will only win when both win conditions are fulfilled. For example, if the couple is Cupid and a Werewolf, everyone else must die. Another example is when the couple is Undead and a Vampire, then the normal Vampire win condition must be reached. Or, if they’re both townsfolk, they belong to the townsfolk team and can win together with them. The cupid’s love overrides any other mechanic that may cause a player to change teams for any reason; the cupid is always on the same team as their lover. After choosing a Lover, unless they are also Unaligned, the Cupid is no longer Unaligned. See edge case sheet for more information.

dayy 05-Jun-19 04:48 PM

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I haven't said anything, but what are you Arch

Arch 05-Jun-19 04:54 PM

@dayy I'm devil

@dayy but I'm in the Plagueabearer team just like u

dayy 05-Jun-19 04:55 PM

What

How

McTsts 05-Jun-19 07:14 PM

What Arch is saying is that they are supporting Plaguebearer team, since anyone can win with Plaguebearer team sort of (if they turn Zombie) (edited)

dayy 05-Jun-19 07:15 PM

Oh

Wow

Ww team is shit

Arch 05-Jun-19 07:16 PM

@dayy aye the best I can do is kill two people with my souls and possibly save you but dude

I don't wanna die after getting my favorite role smh

Arch 05-Jun-19 07:23 PM

@dayy what is toffee? Is he on your team? Is it OK if I kill him now?

dayy 05-Jun-19 07:29 PM

@Arch hessa wolf

Wait

Y u kill him

Arch 05-Jun-19 07:29 PM

@dayy galax said he couldn't be infected

Dude the ww's should vote anyone else other than you

dayy 05-Jun-19 07:30 PM

I asked him

Arch 05-Jun-19 07:30 PM

Like internet

dayy 05-Jun-19 07:30 PM

He said he's changing his vote

I aks again

Arch 05-Jun-19 07:30 PM

Why is toffee reluctant to vote Internet?

I bet him and Internet are vamp team

I saw him changing votes

Okay then

dayy 05-Jun-19 07:31 PM

Oh yeah he fucked up

Arch 05-Jun-19 07:31 PM

Is Dennis in your team?

dayy 05-Jun-19 07:31 PM

He forgot to remove my vote

Arch 05-Jun-19 07:31 PM

Im about to use my soul on him

dayy 05-Jun-19 07:31 PM

Then voted the guy next to internet

Dennis is not wolf team

Arch 05-Jun-19 07:37 PM

Okay

Killing him tonight

Possibly to save you

Cuz he voted against u

@dayy additionally, you can stir some confusion in the wolf chat and pointed out that toffee and Internet are possible team since Internet claimed solo

That's why toffee was hesitant to vote internet

I mean just look at his voting pattern

Arch 05-Jun-19 08:30 PM

Dayy, sweetheart. I'm most likely dying tonight but hear me out

Someday you will have to kill toffee because he's against us zombies (confirmed vamp by galax)

By archangels grace maybe