Channel created @Vyryn

Hellowe therey @JR [FFF]

Well hello Mr Late, pleasure seeing you here.

Please, the pleasure is mine. How are you doing this fine evening?

Pretty good, seems we have quite the background. Stories have been passed down from generation to generation about the strong friendship between the Vyryn and Jay families. Dating all the way back to the tragedy of Tumble Town. I hope this friendship holds true during these troubling times as well

Indeed. Legend has it that the Jay patriarch struck back with true ferocity at the werewolves who murdered my ancestor. What good fortune that we can rely on each other again in these acursed times.

So how do you feel about The Archer's news?

A curse upon our village is troubling indeed. The Archer has a tough job ahead. Everyone will want to escape the village to escape their fate, and risk spreading it across the country. The Archer must keep it contained within the village, and will soon become hated for not allowing villagers to leave. Tis a tough job indeed

Do you side with the Archer in support of a new order, then? Even though you yourself spread the rumor that will make the Archer's job more difficult?

Call it a rumor if you must, I was simply sharing the knowledge as I don't believe grave news like this should be kept secret. I'm sure your family passed down the stories of tumble town, and I fear the same fate may be upon us again. That is not something that can simply be ignored. I have not determined whom I can trust at this time and It was not my intent to make anyone's job more difficult. But difficult times lay ahead and difficult choices must be made to survive the fate that has been bestowed upon us

I see. Yes, truth is always to be sought. Can I trust your aim is to ensure the continued safety of the town, then?

Indeed, as I hope that is your goal as well

Indeed it is. Is there anyone else you feel is trustworthy?

Alas, it is too early to draw such conclusions. We shall see as time goes on

Oh, woe! You feel the entire town save us two may be acursed? That would be dire indeed

Not the whole town, but until I know more I am hesitant to trust anyone as I do not know who the curse has affected.

What about you, do you know of other villagers that you also see as trustworthy?

Alas, I have not enough information to know for certain.

@JR [FFF] If one were a critical member of society, one might be suspicious of how a self-proclaimed innocent managed to get four votes for mayor in quick succession, with four more following shortly thereafter - not to mention all these people voting for the same person for guardian. Perhaps a mayor is a baker?

It's a possibility. I could also be a cult member, or a wolf. Or even persuaded those in the meeting Bhuna created, or even managed to sway the votes of those aforementioned groups. There is a number of possibilities as to how I managed it. The question is, how much do you trust me and, more importantly, how much do I trust you.

I must say my degree of trust for you isn't going up - you aren't acting like a baker would and I don't see it as at all ikely you aren't part of 1)bakers 2)werewolves or 3)cult

Then again, if I thought you were a werewolf it probably wouldn't be in my self-interest to bring that fact to your attention. If one comes to that conclusion, one must wonder why I have done so, eh?

Good point, but trust is a two way street. My question is, why do you ask about me being a baker and not a cult member? Then proceed to say I'm not acting like a baker, mentioning it a second time? Perhaps you are part of the cult?

Oh, I thought you realized. There are 5 members of the cult, 4 bakers. 4 people quickly voted for you, not 5. sure you could be part of the cult, but the math makes bakers more likely.

And if I was a cult member, I wouldn't have any need to seek allies who I may or may not be able to trust. So I wish I was a cult member, but no, I'm not.

That is unfortunate news. I am not a baker, nor part of either of the other two groups. Just a plain innocent. But the reputation of my cunningness last game seems to have carried over and I have managed to gain trust with one of the innocent groups. Me and the guardian are also part of a group of 7 members randomly created, so I have a little influence there as well. But that is more, unstable, as it is highly likely there is at least 1 wolf in a randomly created group of 7. If I could find a member of the second group then I could create a strong and powerful alliance between the bakers and the cults. This would be glorious, but gaining trust is more difficult as I cannot prove I am not a wolf

Interesting. Of course, it is somewhat difficult to beleive, but if what you say is true then you know either the cultists or the bakers. Perhaps I could prove my trustworthiness somehow, so you could put me in contact with them?

Yes, I am connected with one of those two groups

@Vyryn What is your dealings with Sir Rex?

We are both members of the group of Elders, and he mentioned you as a possible ally

I'm honored to be considered. We've talked a bit, I told him basically the same as I told you

Ok, I would like to bring you into the trusted circle but cannot do so at this time. I hope you understand my reasoning to find proof beyond a doubt that you are on our side before bringing you in. Hopefully I can obtain such proof soon.

Who do you plan on voting for to hang toniggt?

mr joker

it is done

I didn't see at the very end but I think i tied it up

i dont know what he is, but I don't think lego is a werewolf so I did it to protect him

@JR [FFF] okay, lucky you: I can now fully trust you and so here comes your info dump.

I am the fortune teller. I didn't tell you earlier because I honestly thought you were a werewolf.
You are a runner.
Last night I checked bhuna and he was an innocent
I'm in contact with a team. They are likely the bakers, but I haven't checked them yet:
lego, regicide, matron and timothy

bhuna told me bentechy is the warlock, though I haven't yet confirmed this either.

I sincerely hope from this you can now trust me and fully share your information

It goes without saying that you should not reveal I'm the fortune teller to anyone you aren't 100% certain about, as it puts a valuable asset in unnecessary danger.

Yes, that goes without saying

The question on my mind however, is how did Bhuna know Ben was a warlock?

I don't know. He died after sending me just one message

Here is my entire conversation with him

I probably don't need to say this, but: you are the ONLY one I can 100% trust so far. I know you can't 100% trust me, but you should be able to trust me quite a lot. As you are the only one I can fully trust, and I'm a valuable target for the wolves to kill, I've told everyone else I've talked to so far that I'm an innocent. It's much much safer for both of us if you don't tell anyone else I'm the fortune teller either- you can't possibly trust anyone else in the game 100% so far, so please if they ask say something like I'm an innocent who made a convincing argument or just I can be trusted.
This is especially important for Jr. I'm suspicious about him

He was an innocent so he had no special abilities

I agree. We need to slowly figure out who's who and add them here
Do not trust bentechy he is the warlock. Check Knight MoneyPriority next
I'm also suspicous of Lord galaax
Probably check the mayor today actually

my message, his response.

I don't know if he found a group or anything

Initially I thought he was cult and you were werewolf, because of the votes you managed to garner for the first night. I guess I underestimated the influence you two managed to get by looking good last game 😉

Now, you might be suspicious I'm the warlock; I'm hoping to show you i'm really the fortune teller by giving you everything I have
As the warlock, there would be reason to hold back, but as the fortune teller there is no reason to

I can say that I found someone whoI trust yesterday. I also found someone who claimed to be the crowd seeker. The crowd seeker today proceeded to list 3 names to me. Mine, the person whom I shared roles with yesterday, and Jokers. of the three roles, he correctly gave mine, the person I spoke to yesterday, and a werewolf. That is why I believe him to be the crowd seeker and why I knew Joker was a wolf

My best guess for crowd seeker is galaxy. The people who asked about the crowd seeker ability change were the bakers and him. Is he the one who claimed to be crowd seeker?

indeed, you have a very keen eye my friend

Thanks, your not exactly slow yourself ;)
It does mean he's in danger though. If I figured it out, so could the wolves

true

I hope they are not nearly as smart as you

but having both the crowd seeker and the fortune teller to combine their powers, that is one powerful alliance. Add the bakers to the mix and we are already a force to be reckoned with

I have been unsuccessful in my attempts to locate any cult members however

if we can find them and gain their trust, we would be unstoppable

Get galaxy to test me as fortune teller tonight as one of his 3 guesses. If he gets it right, you can trust both of us even more

indeed

but I'm not sure I see the point in that

Yeah I haven't found the cult yet either- though I do have some groups of people who've voted together who are likely cult or werewolves, assuming Legos crew is the bakers

Well if I were in your position I don't know if I'd fully trust either of us just yet; an extra proof would certainly help

you correctly named my role, meaning you are either the fortune teller or the warlock.

I suppose it's possible you could think one of us is the warlock and the other a wolf, having already made contact. But if you believe that there's a 1/400 chance of the randomly guessing two correct roles

As he gets 3 names, I suppose it wouldn't hurt

Other than that 0.25% chance assuming he gets it correct, you can then be certain we are both what we say.

yes, we were in discussion on how to best utilize his powers and came up with a game plan. Within minutes, the announcement was made that the ability was overpowered and had to change

Has he checked a baker?

he has indeed

myself as the runner, my ally as the baker, and Joker as the wolf were the 3 roles

Good. Solid team of 7 Innocents with reporter fortune teller and crowd seeker will be very very strong

I will have the crowd seeker check you tonight. Once confirmed, you will be added to the inner circle of the trusted

and mayor 😉

Your contract is sir rex, isn't it

if it wasnt for my double vote then Archer would be dead along with the reporter position

And mayor, yeah. I havent seen it make any difference either game until this hanging, though

its a weak position with so many players, but it has its moments. becomes powerful in the late game

When there are just a few players left, yes. This game it may not need to get to that

it very much made a significant diffrence last game.

So can you confirm, was regicide the baker galaxy pointed out?

I hope so, because if it gets to the late game I may not survive

indeed

:)
Also picked up from a similar hint to Galaxy's slip

In my chat with the bakers

We need to have a talk with that boy...

lol

Both of em

Though in regicides defence, I'm trustworthy

And galaxy is a much higher value target

At least you can't die on me quite so quickly like bhuna did

yes, benefit of being the runner. If I piss off the wolves enough to become a threat, they can waste an attack on me lol

Makes you a good mayor

i hear they don't like nose boops.

Uh, what?

like a shark, just punch em in the nose 😂

Lol that's what you mean by boop

Unfortunately that only actually works on a few species of shark and is generally not recommended

Jay do you have any leads to follow up?

my full conversation with bhuna, properly copied this time:

Vyryn The Late - Yesterday at 2:14 PM
Hello sir @Bhuna The Second
I come seeking allies in this troubling time.
Bhuna The Second - Yesterday at 4:52 PM
What role are you my friend
Vyryn The Late - Yesterday at 8:11 PM
I am the fortune teller - and I trust you with this because for my first night I have checked your role and know you are a pure innocent.
I have already identified the bakers to a high degree of certainty.
Is there anyone you trust so far?
November 21, 2017
Vyryn The Late - Today at 12:47 AM
I'll try to get on discord at some point tomorrow morning so hopefully we can talk while both of us are on.
Vyryn The Late - Today at 1:17 AM
I probably don't need to say this, but: you are the ONLY one I can 100% trust so far. I know you can't 100% trust me, but you should be able to trust me quite a lot. As you are the only one I can fully trust, and I'm a valuable target for the wolves to kill, I've told everyone else I've talked to so far that I'm an innocent. It's much much safer for both of us if you don't tell anyone else I'm the fortune teller either- you can't possibly trust anyone else in the game 100% so far, so please if they ask say something like I'm an innocent who made a convincing argument or just I can be trusted.
This is especially important for Jr. I'm suspicious about him
Bhuna The Second - Today at 2:53 AM
I agree. We need to slowly figure out who's who and add them here
Do not trust bentechy he is the warlock. Check Knight MoneyPriority next
I'm also suspicous of Lord galaax
Probably check the mayor today actually
Vyryn The Late - Today at 11:11 AM
Rip lol. Owch
I hope your right about bentechy, and too bad you couldn't say any more before being murdered

I still don't see how an innocent tied to a cupid could obtain Ben as being a warlock.

As far as leads, not at this point. Dr Carl E. was one of the only ones who voted for Joker outside of the bakers and myself. I assume it's safe to say he is not a wolf

it could have been random

How sure are you that galaxy is the crowd seeker - probability based, probability and behavior, or what? How many people, exactly, did he say the correct roles of who weren't known previously? Just you who you know for certain, right? Plus someone who is very likely but not certainly a baker, and someone who is very llikely but not certainly a werewolf

true, could be lucky guesses on the other two, but what are the odds of guessing 3 for 3?

a bit above 0.045%

we're good lol

although... let me check something

hmm.
Unlesss.
If lego's group and is wolves as well as galaxy, he doesn't need to have gotten guardian's role correctly, and he lied about rex's.
That means only your role was guessed randomly, which would mean a 9.67% chance of guessing your role correctly. Adjusting for you not being a werewolf, baker or cult member, since it wouldn't work in that case, it's an 11.5% chance. Not insignificant, but not likely

pretty damn devious, though

Galaxx knew Rex was a baker from the Elders group. Rex knew I was a runner from yesterday

I saw no inidcations last game that anyone but you would be able to think something like that up(edited)

what occured in the elders group? It was just random members, wasn't it? you can't get much useful info from that

no, but Rex made a strong case about being a baker.

I'd think the main hope in creating a large group of randoms is to find enough people claiming to be the same thing that you know one is lying

so it's possible it's all a hoax, but unlikely

with a higher likelyhood of it bein one of the earlier ones

I give it less than 10% chance that they are werewolves; and if galaxy confirms my role correctly that becomes a 5% chance (coinflip odds for a yes or no - "is vyryn the fortune teller")

I don't see lego as the type to pull off a scheme in that much detail

he did try some minorly sneaky stuff last game, but nothing like that. As for the other three, I don't think so, tehy aren't that active, but it can't be ruled out.
Judging from their votes yesterday it looks even less likely: not only could they not agree on people to choose for EITHER role, but half of them didn't even vote

so although statistically it's a 10% chance soon to be 5%, I think we are safe with them

the biggest danger is probably one of em slipping up some important info

I thought last game was tricky, I'm in 7 different conspiracy channels right now lol

very true

I have 9, but most are only one person

one of em is dead

I believe Mr Freddy to be the flute player, but it's not important yet

Yeah, considering last game was only 4 or 5 total

Just as long as we keep in track how many people are fluted, and leave a few nights before the end to figure that one out, it might fall into place on it's own before then

I think i read somewhere that you are fluted, is that the case?

well I'm fluted so I can easily track that

that's good. What were they thinking fluting you first night?

They got me and joker

Mayor and guardian

Only connection I can make lol

Fred wasn't around last game

I'd think the flute would want to leave the dangerous people for as late as possible - they are the most likely to shed suspicion and therefore most likely to be killed, not to mention most likely to find the flute player themselves

He's not the brightest

okay, i'm heading home. I'll be back online in about 1.5h, hopefully you're still around then. I think we can probably identify the werewolves and cultists tonight working together

He approached me knowing me and joker were fluted, then tried to say it was his trusted friend giving him that information

Who also told him archer would be fluted tonight

It's 1230am for me, I'm going to bed lol

I'm GMT +3, I'll be up in about 6 hrs to get ready for work lol

Played it very poorly, so I'm almost certain it's him. Although I got him to change his vote from Archer to Joker, so we do have a kind of alliance thing going on. I'll keep him alive as long as he can help with the wolves

This is everything I know so far. Orange is dead. Red is confirmed werewolf high probability. Green is confirmed innocent high probability. Everyone else is just my best guess. Left to right is generally increasing suspiciou, though not the people on the bottom. Grops are people who seem to have voted together or otherwise indicated or implied they are groups

damn useless pictures. I'll show you one of the things i tried to upload. they discord doesn't do high enough resolution to let you see the writing.

okay, anyways.
Guesses that might be useful for galaxy:

Toiletti or Lilith werewolf. if one is, both are and maximum, thrimian probably are, mctsts, mrkukurykpl probably are.
also remember that if he guesses the white werewolf as werewolf, it will show up as wrong

alekkat or elcar0 cult member - im less confident about this guess, but these two, with freedmoon (who i think is more likely cult but you think is flute, so) have voted together for alomst everything. My other guesses for cult members are bentechy, illio and cashwarrior. Also, if one of the first list isn't a werewolf they are probably a cult member - even if the rest are all werewolves.

freedmoon flute player.
Bentechy warlock.
(yeah i know these guys overlap with cult, my confidence level for the cult in general is pretty low)
Also remember for the cult that if he guess the leader as member it will show up as wrong

Other people to look out for:
rube, dolphin, typhs and ville have probably been talking to at least two groups of other people each. all of them don't seem too connected with each other or any other group, though.

marsim, ds are active but seem to be pretty alone.

spanishs pagetti, malreath and ciphercobra haven't voted for anyone. I'm inclined to consider them lower priority.

At the end of the game I'll look forward to checking out my night 2 list and realizing how laughably wrong I was

but that's my best guesses so far.

lol yeah, but you gotta start somewhere. I based my assumptions off of voting patters at the beginning of S1 and ended up in a conspiracy chat with two wolves who were incorrectly identified. My cupid mate ended up being cursed so once he was turned we knew who were the wolves and planned from there.

It's possible thar Mr Freddy formed an alliance with the flute player on chance. He doesn't seem to be part of the cult as far as I can tell

Mr. Freddy - Yesterday at 12:55 PM
i trust you but not enough
All im sure of is that something coming out of shadow did something to you and another one
Jay Jr. - Yesterday at 12:57 PM
And how do you know something did something to me?
Mr. Freddy - Yesterday at 12:58 PM
do you know the other guy who was charm last night?
Jay Jr. - Yesterday at 12:58 PM
Yes, I do know who was charmed
am I correct to assume you are the flute player?
Mr. Freddy - Yesterday at 1:00 PM
ik who he is but i cant tell anything
Jay Jr. - Yesterday at 1:01 PM
fair enough
well, I can tell you that Archer is innocent and that Joker is a wolf
change your vote to hang Joker and I will do what I can to keep you alive
awesome, thank you for changing your vote
Mr. Freddy - Yesterday at 1:05 PM
can you make sure to find out who is the oracle
no problem for changing
if Joker rly is a werewolf that mean you ll probably be next to die
Jay Jr. - Yesterday at 1:07 PM
possibly
Mr. Freddy - Yesterday at 1:07 PM
if youre a werewolf then im going to die
i shall assume not
JR if youre still alive by tomorow and im too be sure that 2 other people will join you
Jay Jr. - Yesterday at 1:09 PM
well you will have your proof in the morning then
Mr. Freddy - Yesterday at 1:09 PM
yes i hope youll stay alive(edited)

Jay Jr. - Yesterday at 1:09 PM
are you a part of a group?
bakers? cults?
Mr. Freddy - Yesterday at 1:10 PM
i guess my "friend is behind me

Jay Jr. - Yesterday at 1:16 PM
I will let you know if I find any other werewolves
I assume they will be the ones not voting for Joker, but will have to get with a few of my other allies to verify
Mr. Freddy - Yesterday at 1:17 PM
then either friend with Archer or baker or cultist
i prefer the second one
Jay Jr. - Yesterday at 1:17 PM
and why is that?
Mr. Freddy - Yesterday at 1:18 PM
cultist could kill me Archer is still someone i can not trust baker are gentle
Jay Jr. - Yesterday at 1:19 PM
Cultists are on the innocent side, they are also out to kill the wolves
Mr. Freddy - Yesterday at 1:19 PM
and kill also my friend
"accidently"
Jay Jr. - Yesterday at 1:20 PM
your friend?
Mr. Freddy - Yesterday at 1:20 PM
the Flute

Don't really want to sound too cynical, but it's in our interest to set elcar0 up as a target if we need a target going forward; if he gets murdered, he can take a wolf with him and we don't loose any valuable roles

true

I agree

i didnt think we'd need this channel again, but thats not exactly the best thing to say to him right as he speaks up for the first time lol

haha

maybe he'll look back and read it once he's dead

and laugh about it

hope so lol

I'm sure he'll understand the logic

LOL

I screenshottee that, and I'll show him once this game is over 😂 😈

lol

I know him in real life, I know that he'll laugh at that. 😆

as long as you get j's agreement in the shot 👅

geez that is definitely not :p